BiGHA Comments

"Robert Siegel" wrote in message ...

My guess: Jesus would be living in a slum in Rome/Salt Lake City/ London/
Wherever.

When he walked into the Great Mother Church ... what would hit the fan? My
guess: every church leader in sight.

Gatorized Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL

Am I detecting an anti-Christian bigotry here on ARBR? I am guessing
that maybe Mr. Siegel is Jewish which may account for his hatred of
Christians, but is it really acceptable that we should all just sit
here and listen to crap like this? I am not aware that the Christian
leadership is any different than is the Jewish leadership, human
nature being what it is. The only religious leadership that I ever
thought was not up to a minimum standard was that of the Muslim
religion. Maybe Mr. Siegel would like to make a comment about that
rather than taking cheap shots at the Christians.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"Lorenzo L. Love" wrote in message link.net...

Lawrence Turner wrote:
Lorenzo, you've truly outdone yourself this time. You've stated that
Bigha is a piece of crap and it gets positive reviews. Then you say
it's overpriced and nobody in their right mind will buy it, and
somebody comes forward to say he owns one and it's worth every penny.

Now owning a Bigha is wasteful, unethical and blasphemus. Way to go,
you've graduated from Troll to Jihadist! I think you need to chill
and maybe think about something other than Bigha for a day.

You are quite simply lying. I have never said that the Bigha was "a
piece of crap", in fact I have several times said it looked like a good
bike - if it was in the $1200 to $1500 price range of comparative bikes.
Every positive review posted has been by someone who was given a Bigha
for review for free. Give me any thing for free and I'll tell you it was
great for the price I paid. So far (excluding the attempts at deception)
we have heard from one single person who has said they have paid full
price, and he has declined to give any details about the bike or any
info about why he purchase a Bigha rather then a comparative bike at a
much cheaper price or a much higher performance bike at a comparative
price, other then he just likes it and thinks it's nice.

This shows how far people will go to justify the culture of conspicuous
consumption.

Lorenzo L. Love

Hang in there Lorenzo! You are the only one making any sense on this
subject thread. I am taking notes on your methods of argumentation,
but it is your sound thinking that amazes me the most. I would be
constantly getting sidetracked by all the asides, but I note how you
stay on the subject come hell or high water. Frankly, I am not looking
forward to tangling with you but I suspect it is bound to happen
sooner or later.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Newsflash: product reviews are given by reporters who do not purchase
the product. A review by a customer wouldn't exactly be objective,
now would it?
Why don't you write to your favorite magazine or TV show and ask them
how many of their products they reviewed were actually paid for?

As for Mr Theismen (the Bigha owner), isn't having a "nice" bike that
he likes justification enough? He said he's tried other bents and did
not find them as nice as the Bigha. If you really wanted more
specifics you could have asked, but you failed to.

It seems to me Lorenzo L. Love, that you've just about run out of
circles.

"Lorenzo L. Love" wrote in message link.net...
Lawrence Turner wrote:
Lorenzo, you've truly outdone yourself this time. You've stated that
Bigha is a piece of crap and it gets positive reviews. Then you say
it's overpriced and nobody in their right mind will buy it, and
somebody comes forward to say he owns one and it's worth every penny.

Now owning a Bigha is wasteful, unethical and blasphemus. Way to go,
you've graduated from Troll to Jihadist! I think you need to chill
and maybe think about something other than Bigha for a day.

You are quite simply lying. I have never said that the Bigha was "a
piece of crap", in fact I have several times said it looked like a good
bike - if it was in the $1200 to $1500 price range of comparative bikes.
Every positive review posted has been by someone who was given a Bigha
for review for free. Give me any thing for free and I'll tell you it was
great for the price I paid. So far (excluding the attempts at deception)
we have heard from one single person who has said they have paid full
price, and he has declined to give any details about the bike or any
info about why he purchase a Bigha rather then a comparative bike at a
much cheaper price or a much higher performance bike at a comparative
price, other then he just likes it and thinks it's nice.

This shows how far people will go to justify the culture of conspicuous
consumption.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"There is enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed."
Mohandas K. Gandhi

Lawrence Turner wrote:

Newsflash: product reviews are given by reporters who do not purchase
the product. A review by a customer wouldn't exactly be objective,
now would it?
Why don't you write to your favorite magazine or TV show and ask them
how many of their products they reviewed were actually paid for?

As for Mr Theismen (the Bigha owner), isn't having a "nice" bike that
he likes justification enough? He said he's tried other bents and did
not find them as nice as the Bigha. If you really wanted more
specifics you could have asked, but you failed to.

It seems to me Lorenzo L. Love, that you've just about run out of
circles.

Lying again. I asked the specific questions "Why did you decide to spend
that much when there are other much cheaper bikes that are in the same
class? In what way is this bike superior to similar but much less
expensive bikes? In what way is this bike the equal to similarly priced
but much higher performance bikes?" His answers were quite vague and
boil down to he just likes it better.

There seems to be no end to the lies Mr. Turner will spew to defend a
bicycle he himself does not deem worth purchasing. Is he counting on a
free review model?

Free review product placement is why most reviews are not worthwhile.
Only the few reviewers like the Consumers Union who pay full retail and
accept no advertising can be judged impartial and honest.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"There is enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed."
Mohandas K. Gandhi



"Lorenzo L. Love" wrote in message link.net...

Lawrence Turner wrote:

Lorenzo, you've truly outdone yourself this time. You've stated that
Bigha is a piece of crap and it gets positive reviews. Then you say
it's overpriced and nobody in their right mind will buy it, and
somebody comes forward to say he owns one and it's worth every penny.

Now owning a Bigha is wasteful, unethical and blasphemus. Way to go,
you've graduated from Troll to Jihadist! I think you need to chill
and maybe think about something other than Bigha for a day.

You are quite simply lying. I have never said that the Bigha was "a
piece of crap", in fact I have several times said it looked like a good
bike - if it was in the $1200 to $1500 price range of comparative bikes.
Every positive review posted has been by someone who was given a Bigha
for review for free. Give me any thing for free and I'll tell you it was
great for the price I paid. So far (excluding the attempts at deception)
we have heard from one single person who has said they have paid full
price, and he has declined to give any details about the bike or any
info about why he purchase a Bigha rather then a comparative bike at a
much cheaper price or a much higher performance bike at a comparative
price, other then he just likes it and thinks it's nice.

This shows how far people will go to justify the culture of conspicuous
consumption.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"There is enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed."
Mohandas K. Gandhi

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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MLB wrote in message
. 97.136...

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are
so unlike your Christ. - Mohandas Gandhi

I think that's is one of the most clever remarks I've ever "heard".
And so F'ing true.



Only cowards and scoundrels beat up on Christians because it is OK and
politically correct to do so.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota


I'm not a religious guy, at least not in the orthodox sense, but I do
respect the religion of others as long as they aren't trying to shoot me or
blow up the place where I work. Christians for sure aren't on the P.C.
protected list so you will see this sort of anti-Christian stuff posted
here. They do it because they can get away with it.

White southern rural guys (rednecks) have always considered political
correctness a hoot. We know if liberals will slur and stereotype us they
will slur and stereotype others. We are also amused by the recently
assigned P.C. protection for rednecks. It seems in their endless vote
counting liberals discovered they didn't get a single redneck vote. A
handful of redneck votes and they would be in power. Recognizing this they
have extended their P.C. protection to us. We are now and hence forth to be
referred to as "NASCAR Dads" with no slurring or stereotyping allowed. And
yes Tom, you must capitalize NASCAR. We are most assuredly laughing out
loud.

skip

"William Higley, Sr." wrote:

I think we should check on the color of the bike. If it's red then we know
TJ is a godless commie mole planted in our midst.

Why I just bet he has been waiting for the right time to break upon the
scene and urge us into a spending spree. Once this country has bankrupted
itself on conspicuous consumerism, then the communist party will re-emerge
and start upon it's halted plan of world domination....

Dang, they're on to us!

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth
RED Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [TM]

Edward Dolan wrote:

MLB wrote in message . 97.136...

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are
so unlike your Christ. - Mohandas Gandhi

I think that's is one of the most clever remarks I've ever "heard".
And so F'ing true.

No, it is not ****ing true at all and I am getting fed up with seeing
that bit of drivel posted here on ARBR every time someone gets to
feeling holier than thou....

For Mr. Dolan's benefit:

"It is a first class human tragedy that people of the earth who claim to
believe in the message of Jesus, whom they describe as the Prince of
Peace, show little of that belief in actual practice." - Mohandas Gandhi

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

$kip wrote:
... And yes Tom, you must capitalize NASCAR. We are most assuredly
laughing out loud.

I thought it was NA$CAR.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...

$kip wrote:
... And yes Tom, you must capitalize NASCAR. We are most assuredly
laughing out loud.

I thought it was NA$CAR.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

Some of us think so, yes. The love of money has driven the sport away from
its southern roots.

skip

skip wrote:

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...

$kip wrote:
... And yes Tom, you must capitalize NASCAR. We are most assuredly
laughing out loud.

I thought it was NA$CAR.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

Some of us think so, yes. The love of money has driven the sport away from
its southern roots.

How many of the current drivers ever got chased by Treasury agents while
delivering a load of moonshine?

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth