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"Simon Mason" wrote in message ... Very good. How about a post ride report on how you did and feel? What time you getting home? Probably around 1600 as I leave at 1500 and have quite a lot of traffic lights to contend with. I will post a report then, but this morning after all that hill walking and having had been off the bike for six days, I flew up our local flyover and felt super strong. It always feels better after a few days "off", cycling day after day can leave you feeling jaded - the walking was a welcome break. The wind has picked up to 30 mph, so it might be a bit later than planned. It *was* later than planned, I got a puncture two miles from home - the first in six months. The next day at the same spot I noted that I had landed on a smashed milk bottle, so I avoided it. -- Simon Mason |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:12:09 -0800, Doug wrote:
Excellent! Beware though, being fat is mainly caused by food intake and you have to do a heck of a lot of exercise to combat it. Only if you mildly overeat will exercise be of any use, apart form the fact that it makes you generally healthier. But be also aware that regular exercise is a great way of regulating appetite, -- An oft-repeated lie is still a lie. |
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On Mar 9, 11:33*am, thirty-six wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:12*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 8, 9:06*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 8, 7:05*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 7, 10:31*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 7, 7:28*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 6, 4:51*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 5, 11:23*pm, M Wicks wrote: I used to lurk here quite a lot, but not for many years. Today I decided to see what uk.rec.cycling was like these days, and frankly I am shocked at what has become of the group. Why are there so many arguments? Why does every thread degenerate into mudslinging? I am afraid the good old days of urc are largely in the past. Like in a lot of internet fora, it has become a haven for trolls, some really sick ones as well who will laugh at dead cyclists and decend into cyber stalking and foul personal abuse. I am sure you remember Guy Chapman - he was subject to the most foul and vicious abuse imaginable, plus he got crank phone calls and home visits off one troll who also published all of his personal details here. My "job" is to purge urc of troll activity by depriving them of what they most crave - attention. If the trolls post excessively then so do I to remove their influence. And the posts you read by the likes of "Mr Benn", "J Nugent", "The Medway Handyman", "Mr Cheerful" and "Judith" are not meant to stimulate healthy debate, but are solely designed to stir up trouble, anti cycling rhetoric, provoke outrage when they mock dead cyclists and then decend into hateful personal attacks. And all because we enjoy cycling. If you wish to discuss cycling in a troll free environment then there is now uk.rec.cycling.moderated. Take care and thanks for your input. I would just like to add that another reason is that URC has become much more infested by motorists, some of whom cross-post from motoring newsgroups, and who seem to have a 'down' on cyclists in general. Doug.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't forget that I am a driver as well, Doug. We don't all have a downer on cyclists. Yes but you are aware of the problems posed by motorists and are seriously trying to minimise your car use, unlike many others here. Doug.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well - when our lass loses her weight and we no longer have to go on long hilly walks, both she and I will be cycling to work, so our car use will plummet accordingly. Excellent! Beware though, being fat is mainly caused by food intake and you have to do a heck of a lot of exercise to combat it. Only if you mildly overeat will exercise be of any use, apart form the fact that it makes you generally healthier. Never made me healthier. *I was healthy and I could manage high mileage on the bike or walking. *Exercise does not drive health, but some activity is essential to drive circulation, it is very little. Training increases capability as the body adapts, that is not health. Yes there is a lot of debate about the usefulness of exercise. In a recent TV programme on exercise it was pointed out that genetically people respond differently to exercise and also a 3 minute 'burst' per day might be sufficient. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...bout_Exercise/ "Riding at a moderate speed (12 – 14 mph) you will burn approximately 235 calories per half hour." yup, a half hour on the bike a day ending in a 40mph sprint is sufficient to keep one heathy if one sits on ones arse for the rest of the day in front of the TV. I have a pedal exercise machine which I can use while watching TV, instead of cycling in very bad weather, and this is a good substitute for walking. So assume someone is overeating to the extent of 1000 calories per day they will have to cycle approx 2 hours or, say, 26 miles every day to combat it and that is seven days per week. Much easier and simpler to just cut down on the eating and then exercise a little for general health's sake Wheat and other grains are the foods to cut out in a weight-loss or health kick diet. *Sodium chloride should be removed as much as possible and real (sea)salt used for SEAsoning. *Without grains and sugar without fibre, the human organism is able to correctly self- regulate calorific intake without following set diets or calorie counting. *Wheat only provides available energy when the body is already driving very hard. *It's suitable as a bread and meat sandwich when going for a walk or cycle ride to tackle an upcoming hill, but it's unsuitable for sitting in front of the TV, computer or desk job. Wheat is the killer, it puts on the hard to shift visceral or belly fat. *If you have a belly, cut out the bread, pasta, pastry, pizza, dumplings, scones, noodles etc. I am not sure that cutting those out would be sufficient. What about the eating of meat and dairy fat? It may once have been food for the masses, but since 1960's the general way of life has become more sedentary. No kidding! Super-sedentary more like, aided by fast-food crap which is allowed to be sold. Also on TV recently has been the special help given to the massively obese, with special teams and special equipment and special vehicles used to move them around. At what cost to the taxpayer I wonder? Obese people are allowed to carry on eating themselves silly and be helped for it by the taxpayer. They can't manage for themselves and have to be washed and fed by carers. Is it an illness or just super-self-indulgence? Doug. |
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On Mar 10, 8:07*am, Doug wrote:
On Mar 9, 11:33*am, thirty-six wrote: On Mar 9, 7:12*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 8, 9:06*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 8, 7:05*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 7, 10:31*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 7, 7:28*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 6, 4:51*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 5, 11:23*pm, M Wicks wrote: I used to lurk here quite a lot, but not for many years. Today I decided to see what uk.rec.cycling was like these days, and frankly I am shocked at what has become of the group. Why are there so many arguments? Why does every thread degenerate into mudslinging? I am afraid the good old days of urc are largely in the past. |
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On Mar 10, 9:44*am, thirty-six wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:07*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 9, 11:33*am, thirty-six wrote: On Mar 9, 7:12*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 8, 9:06*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 8, 7:05*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 7, 10:31*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 7, 7:28*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 6, 4:51*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 5, 11:23*pm, M Wicks wrote: I used to lurk here quite a lot, but not for many years.. Today I decided to see what uk.rec.cycling was like these days, and frankly I am shocked at what has become of the group. Why are there so many arguments? Why does every thread degenerate into mudslinging? I am afraid the good old days of urc are largely in the past. Like in a lot of internet fora, it has become a haven for trolls, some really sick ones as well who will laugh at dead cyclists and decend into cyber stalking and foul personal abuse. I am sure you remember Guy Chapman - he was subject to the most foul and vicious abuse imaginable, plus he got crank phone calls and home visits off one troll who also published all of his personal details here. My "job" is to purge urc of troll activity by depriving them of what they most crave - attention. If the trolls post excessively then so do I to remove their influence. And the posts you read by the likes of "Mr Benn", "J Nugent", "The Medway Handyman", "Mr Cheerful" and "Judith" are not meant to stimulate healthy debate, but are solely designed to stir up trouble, anti cycling rhetoric, provoke outrage when they mock dead cyclists and then decend into hateful personal attacks. And all because we enjoy cycling. If you wish to discuss cycling in a troll free environment then there is now uk.rec.cycling.moderated. Take care and thanks for your input. I would just like to add that another reason is that URC has become much more infested by motorists, some of whom cross-post from motoring newsgroups, and who seem to have a 'down' on cyclists in general. Doug.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't forget that I am a driver as well, Doug. We don't all have a downer on cyclists. Yes but you are aware of the problems posed by motorists and are seriously trying to minimise your car use, unlike many others here. Doug.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well - when our lass loses her weight and we no longer have to go on long hilly walks, both she and I will be cycling to work, so our car use will plummet accordingly. Excellent! Beware though, being fat is mainly caused by food intake and you have to do a heck of a lot of exercise to combat it. Only if you mildly overeat will exercise be of any use, apart form the fact that it makes you generally healthier. Never made me healthier. *I was healthy and I could manage high mileage on the bike or walking. *Exercise does not drive health, but some activity is essential to drive circulation, it is very little. Training increases capability as the body adapts, that is not health. Yes there is a lot of debate about the usefulness of exercise. In a recent TV programme on exercise it was pointed out that genetically people respond differently to exercise and also a 3 minute 'burst' per day might be sufficient. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...0112012_The_Tr... "Riding at a moderate speed (12 – 14 mph) you will burn approximately 235 calories per half hour." yup, a half hour on the bike a day ending in a 40mph sprint is sufficient to keep one heathy if one sits on ones arse for the rest of the day in front of the TV. I have a pedal exercise machine which I can use while watching TV, instead of cycling in very bad weather, and this is a good substitute for walking. So assume someone is overeating to the extent of 1000 calories per day they will have to cycle approx 2 hours or, say, 26 miles every day to combat it and that is seven days per week. Much easier and simpler to just cut down on the eating and then exercise a little for general health's sake Wheat and other grains are the foods to cut out in a weight-loss or health kick diet. *Sodium chloride should be removed as much as possible and real (sea)salt used for SEAsoning. *Without grains and sugar without fibre, the human organism is able to correctly self- regulate calorific intake without following set diets or calorie counting. *Wheat only provides available energy when the body is already driving very hard. *It's suitable as a bread and meat sandwich when going for a walk or cycle ride to tackle an upcoming hill, but it's unsuitable for sitting in front of the TV, computer or desk job. Wheat is the killer, it puts on the hard to shift visceral or belly fat. *If you have a belly, cut out the bread, pasta, pastry, pizza, dumplings, scones, noodles etc. I am not sure that cutting those out would be sufficient. What about the eating of meat and dairy fat? Some fat is essential for vitamin transport, mucous production and skin health (and probably joint health). *What I think you should find is that the exclusion of grain naturally reduces the desire to eat masses of fat and there is no need to make a conscious effort to regulate it. *Fat consumption seems to me to be pretty much self- regulating when no grain is involved. *I eat nuts as well, but my primary source of fats come from meat and butter. *When I eat fatty meat, my desire for butter in my eggs diminishes and I am lighter handed. Do you know what your BMI is? Mine is about 20. It may once have been food for the masses, but since 1960's the general way of life has become more sedentary. No kidding! Super-sedentary more like, aided by fast-food crap which is allowed to be sold. That's commercial enterprise for you. Profit before people. Also on TV recently has been the special help given to the massively obese, with special teams and special equipment and special vehicles used to move them around. At what cost to the taxpayer I wonder? Obese people are allowed to carry on eating themselves silly and be helped for it by the taxpayer. They can't manage for themselves and have to be washed and fed by carers. Is it an illness or just super-self-indulgence? Both. I suppose people have to be cared for regardless but why do they let themselves get in such a condition when it can be countered by merely eating less? Doug. |
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On Mar 11, 7:13*am, Doug wrote:
On Mar 10, 9:44*am, thirty-six wrote: On Mar 10, 8:07*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 9, 11:33*am, thirty-six wrote: On Mar 9, 7:12*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 8, 9:06*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 8, 7:05*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 7, 10:31*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 7, 7:28*am, Doug wrote: On Mar 6, 4:51*am, Simon Mason wrote: On Mar 5, 11:23*pm, M Wicks wrote: I used to lurk here quite a lot, but not for many years. Today I decided to see what uk.rec.cycling was like these days, and frankly I am shocked at what has become of the group. Why are there so many arguments? Why does every thread degenerate into mudslinging? I am afraid the good old days of urc are largely in the past. Like in a lot of internet fora, it has become a haven for trolls, some really sick ones as well who will laugh at dead cyclists and decend into cyber stalking and foul personal abuse. I am sure you remember Guy Chapman - he was subject to the most foul and vicious abuse imaginable, plus he got crank phone calls and home visits off one troll who also published all of his personal details here. My "job" is to purge urc of troll activity by depriving them of what they most crave - attention. If the trolls post excessively then so do I to remove their influence. And the posts you read by the likes of "Mr Benn", "J Nugent", "The Medway Handyman", "Mr Cheerful" and "Judith" are not meant to stimulate healthy debate, but are solely designed to stir up trouble, anti cycling rhetoric, provoke outrage when they mock dead cyclists and then decend into hateful personal attacks. And all because we enjoy cycling. If you wish to discuss cycling in a troll free environment then there is now uk.rec.cycling.moderated. Take care and thanks for your input. I would just like to add that another reason is that URC has become much more infested by motorists, some of whom cross-post from motoring newsgroups, and who seem to have a 'down' on cyclists in general. Doug.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't forget that I am a driver as well, Doug. We don't all have a downer on cyclists. Yes but you are aware of the problems posed by motorists and are seriously trying to minimise your car use, unlike many others here. Doug.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well - when our lass loses her weight and we no longer have to go on long hilly walks, both she and I will be cycling to work, so our car use will plummet accordingly. Excellent! Beware though, being fat is mainly caused by food intake and you have to do a heck of a lot of exercise to combat it. Only if you mildly overeat will exercise be of any use, apart form the fact that it makes you generally healthier. Never made me healthier. *I was healthy and I could manage high mileage on the bike or walking. *Exercise does not drive health, but some activity is essential to drive circulation, it is very little. Training increases capability as the body adapts, that is not health. Yes there is a lot of debate about the usefulness of exercise. In a recent TV programme on exercise it was pointed out that genetically people respond differently to exercise and also a 3 minute 'burst' per day might be sufficient. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...0112012_The_Tr.... "Riding at a moderate speed (12 – 14 mph) you will burn approximately 235 calories per half hour." yup, a half hour on the bike a day ending in a 40mph sprint is sufficient to keep one heathy if one sits on ones arse for the rest of the day in front of the TV. I have a pedal exercise machine which I can use while watching TV, instead of cycling in very bad weather, and this is a good substitute for walking. So assume someone is overeating to the extent of 1000 calories per day they will have to cycle approx 2 hours or, say, 26 miles every day to combat it and that is seven days per week. Much easier and simpler to just cut down on the eating and then exercise a little for general health's sake Wheat and other grains are the foods to cut out in a weight-loss or health kick diet. *Sodium chloride should be removed as much as possible and real (sea)salt used for SEAsoning. *Without grains and sugar without fibre, the human organism is able to correctly self- regulate calorific intake without following set diets or calorie counting. *Wheat only provides available energy when the body is already driving very hard. *It's suitable as a bread and meat sandwich when going for a walk or cycle ride to tackle an upcoming hill, but it's unsuitable for sitting in front of the TV, computer or desk job. Wheat is the killer, it puts on the hard to shift visceral or belly fat. *If you have a belly, cut out the bread, pasta, pastry, pizza, dumplings, scones, noodles etc. I am not sure that cutting those out would be sufficient. What about the eating of meat and dairy fat? Some fat is essential for vitamin transport, mucous production and skin health (and probably joint health). *What I think you should find is that the exclusion of grain naturally reduces the desire to eat masses of fat and there is no need to make a conscious effort to regulate it. *Fat consumption seems to me to be pretty much self- regulating when no grain is involved. *I eat nuts as well, but my primary source of fats come from meat and butter. *When I eat fatty meat, my desire for butter in my eggs diminishes and I am lighter handed. Do you know what your BMI is? Mine is about 20. No I don't and the figure don't bother me as I know through experience not to fall much below 11st or go over 13st although when well-muscled I was about 13st 10lb. In the past 2 years I've been at 15st and below 10st. I was unable to raise my weight without the aid of food supplements. I'm now at 11st7 which I'd be happy to maintain. It may once have been food for the masses, but since 1960's the general way of life has become more sedentary. No kidding! Super-sedentary more like, aided by fast-food crap which is allowed to be sold. That's commercial enterprise for you. Profit before people. Also on TV recently has been the special help given to the massively obese, with special teams and special equipment and special vehicles used to move them around. At what cost to the taxpayer I wonder? Obese people are allowed to carry on eating themselves silly and be helped for it by the taxpayer. They can't manage for themselves and have to be washed and fed by carers. Is it an illness or just super-self-indulgence? Both. I suppose people have to be cared for regardless but why do they let themselves get in such a condition when it can be countered by merely eating less? Doug. |
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