Ride an SUB not an SUV

On Mar 8, 8:17 pm, Bill Baka wrote:

A/C as it is presently made is purely for the profit of the
manufacturer. They can be made twice as efficient, since I worked out
the numbers, and I am sure that most A/C design engineers know it too,
but are not allowed to innovate that much. Right now they are just built
to absolute minimum costs and just barely above the government's minimum
legal SEER efficiency requirement.
Bill Baka

There's always someone standing on the way of progress and evolution.
That's the HUNGRY DINOSAUR. In the following case, it's the building
owners...

"Nothing is stopping building owners from making investment in plants
and equipment except they don't want to do it," said Peter Fusaro,
founder of Global Change Associates, an environmental consultancy.

"There's just no people pushing it. Politicians make platitudes about
energy efficiency but who's going to make the investment?"


U.S. struggles to build green homes

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Change a light bulb and stop a war. Build smarter
homes and keep the seas from rising.

These are the kinds of arguments U.S. environmentalists use to promote
their cause. Others say forget "save the planet," Americans respond
better to "save some money."

Regardless of the sales pitch, energy efficiency is an opportunity
that Americans shun, as less than 5 percent of the world's population
consumes almost 25 percent of global oil production.

While gas-guzzling vehicles draw the most criticism, homes and
businesses consume even more energy -- 40 percent of the U.S. total in
2005 versus 28 percent for transportation -- and provide the biggest
potential for savings.

The U.S. Green Building Council says structures built to its standards
can cut energy usage 20 to 80 percent using available technologies
such as compact fluorescent lighting and high-efficiency building
shells and water heating.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070309/...nt_building_dc

--Also many places don't have showers at work, so what do you do then?
Need to look and address the BIG picture.--

Sure. We have to make America bicycle friendly in every way. I hope
the dinosaur cooperates. Or will he go into a rage about the small
competition?

I'm already riding my bike in traffic with the T-shirt on (http://
http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954...23967591425985) and I'm
still alive. Is that a good sign???

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:45:06 GMT, "nash"
wrote:

half a point each.
X plus gas = X minus gas + Y

Do the math. If you drive 20,000 miles per year and buy a 45 mpg
vehicle for $ 15,000 and use if for half of that mileage instead of,
say, a 12 mpg vehicle you already own (sort of the description of the
situation), you won't pay for the cost of the extra vehicle in six
years - if gas in the U.S. goes to $ 4.00 per gallon. That's ignoring
the cost of additional insurance and storage space.

At $ 3.00, it is more like 8 years.

And no, I'm not trying to justify my SUV - we own two Priuses and have
since before the last gasoline rise. Its just that your math won't
work.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Mar 8, 8:25 pm, Bill Baka wrote:
To sum it up: THE REVOLUTION 1) WILL EMPHASIZE MULTIMODAL
TRANSPORTATION, 2) PROMOTE NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND 3) WILL PENALIZE THE
BIG AND STUPID.

Well, at least someone gets my point. If you can afford an SUV and the
gas it sucks then you can damn well afford an econo-box for those little
trips. Too bad there isn't a law that says a cop can give you a
pollution ticket if he spots you driving one block for a pack of smokes
or some other silly excuse to drive the tank, er, SUV.
Bill Baka- Hide quoted text -


They want to chase away the bikes not the SUVs. Thirsty behemoths
promote more the 19th century economy --and Chavez and terrorism, etc.

"Curtis L. Russell" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:45:06 GMT, "nash"
wrote:

half a point each.
X plus gas = X minus gas + Y

Do the math. If you drive 20,000 miles per year and buy a 45 mpg
vehicle for $ 15,000 and use if for half of that mileage instead of,
say, a 12 mpg vehicle you already own (sort of the description of the
situation), you won't pay for the cost of the extra vehicle in six
years - if gas in the U.S. goes to $ 4.00 per gallon. That's ignoring
the cost of additional insurance and storage space.

At $ 3.00, it is more like 8 years.

And no, I'm not trying to justify my SUV - we own two Priuses and have
since before the last gasoline rise. Its just that your math won't
work.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

If you stopped driving an SUV to work which is more like 80% of travel it
does work.

"donquijote1954" wrote in message
ps.com...
--Also many places don't have showers at work, so what do you do then?
Need to look and address the BIG picture.--

Sure. We have to make America bicycle friendly in every way. I hope
the dinosaur cooperates. Or will he go into a rage about the small
competition?

I'm already riding my bike in traffic with the T-shirt on (http://
http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954...23967591425985) and I'm
still alive. Is that a good sign???

Asking for a gang rape if your a female

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:17:47 GMT, Bill Baka wrote:

That's exactly my point. AC allowed the development of California
and Arkansas and then people pitch about the energy usage an
pollution.

Quite true. But now that people are here, and Arizona (my sister), and
New Mexico, Texas. etc., they aren't going to move just for the energy
savings.

Give me a break - I lived in Texas, Arkansas, and Kansas when the only
places air conditioned were the banks, the movie houses and the 5 and
dimes. And the autos weren't air conditioned either.

People got along fine with far less energy draining house fans (as in,
really big exhaust fans that pulled air throughout the house, slamming
doors in the process) and the fans that pulled air over water. And the
houses were regional designs focused on cooling. People spent time on
porches with shade. They lived, they thrived, they did fine.

No, Little Rock, Fort Worth, Dallas, and Southern California did not
spring up in the 1960s. What was big just got bigger.

Air conditioning allowed people to spend all day inside with their
windows shut. That isn't the only way you can live.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:14:56 GMT, "nash"
wrote:


If you stopped driving an SUV to work which is more like 80% of travel it
does work.

No, it moves the pay back to more than four years, not counting that
additional insurance et al. If you already have the SUV, no it won't
make the difference. And it assumes 12 mpg, which is a bit low for a
smaller SUV or a big six banger pick up truck, say your basic Ford
extended cab white commodity PU, with an overdrive. That would take
well over five years with gas at $ 3.00/gallon.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Mar 9, 3:16 pm, "nash" wrote:

I'm already riding my bike in traffic with the T-shirt on (http://
http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954...23967591425985) and I'm
still alive. Is that a good sign???

Asking for a gang rape if your a female

I'm waiting for the females to rape me.

And while on the subject, why would it be that many women drive SUVs?
Would that be testosterone or the equivalent of this...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ation_Book.jpg

"Curtis L. Russell" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:14:56 GMT, "nash"
wrote:


If you stopped driving an SUV to work which is more like 80% of travel it
does work.

No, it moves the pay back to more than four years, not counting that
additional insurance et al. If you already have the SUV, no it won't
make the difference. And it assumes 12 mpg, which is a bit low for a
smaller SUV or a big six banger pick up truck, say your basic Ford
extended cab white commodity PU, with an overdrive. That would take
well over five years with gas at $ 3.00/gallon.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

You forget, insurance on a pleasure vehicle or recreation which is what it
is, is alot less than for going to work. Maybe 1/5 lets say. They are
using the wrong tool for the job hahahahahah