KH Seats

One of the main things I'd like see change would be to not have the
cover stapled on. My seat frame itself is in great condition. I
haven't had any problems with it bending or cracking (and I try to be
hard on it, but I'm a light guy). The front bumper is scuffed and I
lost one of the nuts, while the cap fell off a few of the other ones.
These are all minor things. But the cover is starting to get holes in
it, and the front righthand side is bunching up. And if there is the
problem with the spinning bolts, I'd like to be able to get to that spot
without performing any major surgeries. And it would be nice to be able
to put in an airseat if desired. Almost all of these *should* be
fixable if the cover wasn't stapled and glued on.


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Hi everyone!!

I was just curious to see if you prefer the KH saddle to a Miyata
air-seat conversion.

I bought a KH 20 trials uni about 6 months ago, and thought that the KH
saddle was a bit too firm for my liking (some people say its "a girl
thing"), so I replaced it with a Miyata air-seat conversion. I then
replaced this with a modified Miyata saddle with high-density foam
padding, which I have to say I like the best.

About the KH seat:

I would like to see it converted to an air-seat model.

There is a bit too much flex in the front handle for my taste.

Overall, it is a "high quality" seat. Good job in designing it, Kris!! I
know I, for one, really appreciate the fact that you can buy a nice seat
all in one package, rather than having to purchase a seat, an air
pillow, and a seat cover. Although you can buy the Miyata air-seats
already converted, they add up to a lot more $$ than just getting a Kris
Holm saddle.


Thank you for responding to my post!


Ride on!!,
Sara )--O


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I agree with Paco, I'd like to see the staples replaced. Mine have been
pulling through, and I'd like to be able to convert it to an air seat.
You could also compensate for a heavier seat base by replacing the foam
with a 16" innertube, which would be comfier and lighter. Also, it seems
as if the seat base is a bit too steep in front to be a good freestyle
saddle. I understand that'd be basically impossible to fix, though.
Finally, you might want to consider selling a KH seatpost which had a
little aluminum or steel bar that ran from the seatpost bolts to the
handle bolts, thereby eliminating the flex. My 2 cents (again). Oh yeah,
I prefer the KH to a miyata air seat.

P.S. I think it's kinda pointless to try to compete with Miyata in the
freestyle market, because they basically have total dominance from what
I've seen, and also, they've got a huge jump in product development on
you. I mean, who hears Dustin Kelm or any incredible freestylists
complaining about how their handles are cracking or their snapped seat
bases? Wheelwalking doesn't break saddles, and I've never heard of a
freestyle performance with more than 12" hops and more than a 2' drop.
I'd reccomend improving the trials/muni saddle to perfection first.
Finally, (and most importantly) happy wedding to Shannon and Kris!


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I've never tried a KH seat, but I'd like to agree that, for me,
stapled/glued on seats are a no-no.

I prefer seats with removable covers which leave the option for
conversions/repairs.


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gerblefranklin wrote:
* who hears Dustin Kelm or any incredible freestylists complaining
about how their handles are cracking or their snapped seat bases? *


Well some freestylers -do- crack their Miyata handles and some dislike
them so much (they get in the way esp in uni-spins) that they cut them
off. There could be a market for a KH freestyle saddle, maybe slimmed
down a little from the current bulky version perhaps.



Tony


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I'd suggest not having the round ended nuts at all and having normal
bolts, as I reckon that the way people break the end of the nuts off
probably doesn't help with the spinning bolt problems.

The ultimate thing would be to have a U shaped bolt inside so there'd be
no chance of the spinning problems.

The expensive cf base would be cool. I'd really like one that was
pre-drilled for the handle and had rails integrated into the CF. Also,
I'd like it most if it worked with the padding from the seat rather than
only as an air seat as I much prefer a decent padded seat to an
airseat.

Joe


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joemarshall wrote:
*I'd suggest not having the round ended nuts at all and having normal
bolts, as I reckon that the way people break the end of the nuts off
probably doesn't help with the spinning bolt problems.

The ultimate thing would be to have a U shaped bolt inside so there'd
be no chance of the spinning problems.
*


The first thing I did to my KH-24 when I got it was removed the
round-cap nuts and installed afew washers on each bolt and then screwed
back on nuts with the nylon locking ring in them


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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:43:18 -0500, joona
wrote:

I just hope that the saddle is as good as some say. Especially the
"European quality model". I'll post some information here if I break one
of those.

Hey joona, I think you refer to what I posted recently. I hope you
realise that it was a joke. There should be no difference between KH
saddles sold in Europe and in the US. I'm even pretty sure that on
Mars not a single different KH seat has been sold. :-) That was
another joke even though I think it's true.

Differences in KH seats have occurred over -time- but that's another
story.

BTW you seem to have been sifting through quite some old threads. But
that's OK of course, the collected wisdom in them is humongous.

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My KH saddle just broke too, I was jumping and i heard it crack really
loud, I look at it, and the screws holding it to the seat post broke
off. I had to use a screw driver and washer to keep using it


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Zelten wrote:
*My KH saddle just broke too, I was jumping and i heard it crack
really loud, I look at it, and the screws holding it to the seat post
broke off. I had to use a screw driver and washer to keep using it *

Sorry to reply to a somewhat old thread...

What exactly did you do to keep the saddle usable?

I broke one of my front seatpost bolts at BMW (the saddle felt loose,
and when I tighted it the nut and half of the bolt came right off). I
have three good bolts at the moment, so the seat still works, but I'm
sure it's only a matter of time before the remaining front bolt goes.


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