Republicans: Nancy Pelosi Was Mean To Us - Petty Sissies Vote No

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.

Just like an alcoholic, give them money and they won't go by a meal
and try to straighten themselves out, they go by more alcohol.

usa economy requires credit to run
frb is not allowed to extend credit to the general public

unless banks are forced to extend credit to the general public
how would you propose to get credit opened without paying the extortion

its all very nice to say we shouldnt pay extortion
but we need the banks to do something for us
do you think it better to create a depression to change the economic system?

we could allow frb services directly to the public
but gosh that would be a commie solution

so whats your answer

arf meow arf - cats and dogs living together - who ya goin call
its the end of the world as you know it - filler text goes here
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang

rand mair fheal wrote:
In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.


usa economy requires credit to run
frb is not allowed to extend credit to the general public

unless banks are forced to extend credit to the general public
how would you propose to get credit opened without paying the
extortion

Have the Secretary of the Treasury convene a teleconference with the
necessary individuals and groups and tell them if they couldn't get their
**** together the US would open a GSE and start issuing commercial paper.
Just the threat would get them off their asses and the shoe of "disasterous"
consequences would then be on the other foot - where it belongs.



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www.machiningsolution.com

In article ,
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

rand mair fheal wrote:
In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.


usa economy requires credit to run
frb is not allowed to extend credit to the general public

unless banks are forced to extend credit to the general public
how would you propose to get credit opened without paying the
extortion

Have the Secretary of the Treasury convene a teleconference with the
necessary individuals and groups and tell them if they couldn't get their
**** together the US would open a GSE and start issuing commercial paper.
Just the threat would get them off their asses and the shoe of "disasterous"
consequences would then be on the other foot - where it belongs.

then people would scream that a government bank is socialism
and its them commie liberals trying to overthrow free enterprise

its even worse than evil socialized medicine

arf meow arf - cats and dogs living together - who ya goin call
its the end of the world as you know it - filler text goes here
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang

rand mair fheal wrote:
In article ,
"John R. Carroll" wrote:

rand mair fheal wrote:
In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the
same.


usa economy requires credit to run
frb is not allowed to extend credit to the general public

unless banks are forced to extend credit to the general public
how would you propose to get credit opened without paying the
extortion

Have the Secretary of the Treasury convene a teleconference with the
necessary individuals and groups and tell them if they couldn't get
their **** together the US would open a GSE and start issuing
commercial paper. Just the threat would get them off their asses and
the shoe of "disasterous" consequences would then be on the other
foot - where it belongs.

then people would scream that a government bank is socialism
and its them commie liberals trying to overthrow free enterprise

A GSE is a private corporation.
No socialism involved.


--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:08:26 -0700, rand mair fheal wrote:

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.

Just like an alcoholic, give them money and they won't go by a meal and
try to straighten themselves out, they go by more alcohol.

usa economy requires credit to run

No, it does not. That's a common misconception perpetrated to keep
America addicted to credit, interest payments to overlords.

frb is not allowed to extend credit to the general public

So what?

unless banks are forced to extend credit to the general public how would
you propose to get credit opened without paying the extortion

You're assuming that the general public should receive an addictive
substance by governmental edict? No.

its all very nice to say we shouldnt pay extortion but we need the banks
to do something for us do you think it better to create a depression to
change the economic system?

Why? Not three words or a paragraph, explain carefully why America should
take an extremely socialist step to reward the very people who committed
the crimes that brought this issue to the forefront.

Explain why this is suddenly a "catastrophe" when two weeks ago we were
being told that all is well. I don't buy the rush to throw public money
at private profiteers, this is how we got hte "Patriot Act" and Iraq.
You'll have to do a lot more than run around screaming "the sky is falling."

we could allow frb services directly to the public but gosh that would
be a commie solution

so whats your answer

To let those responsible deal with their own malpractice. Let banks fail,
let the managers dig holes for a living, stay out of the disaster. When
the dust settles continue on with life without their debt obligation.

arf meow arf - cats and dogs living together - who ya goin call its the
end of the world as you know it - filler text goes here this is how the
world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang this is how the world
ends - not with a whimper but with a bang

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In article ,
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:08:26 -0700, rand mair fheal wrote:

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.

Just like an alcoholic, give them money and they won't go by a meal and
try to straighten themselves out, they go by more alcohol.

usa economy requires credit to run

No, it does not. That's a common misconception perpetrated to keep
America addicted to credit, interest payments to overlords.

publicly traded business that keep sufficient cash on hand not to need credit
are then subject to take overs to grab that cash

thanks to the lord your reagan business that survive
have their assets and liabilitlies as close together as possible

changing that requires changing laws and regulations

To let those responsible deal with their own malpractice. Let banks fail,
let the managers dig holes for a living, stay out of the disaster. When
the dust settles continue on with life without their debt obligation.

so thats a vote for depression

arf meow arf - cats and dogs living together - who ya goin call
its the end of the world as you know it - filler text goes here
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:08:26 -0700, rand mair fheal
wrote:

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.

Just like an alcoholic, give them money and they won't go by a meal
and try to straighten themselves out, they go by more alcohol.

usa economy requires credit to run
frb is not allowed to extend credit to the general public

unless banks are forced to extend credit to the general public
how would you propose to get credit opened without paying the extortion

This is what's gotten us into the fix we're in now. Everybody's
squaking about de-regulation, but the problem is just the opposite.
The banks were forced to come up with ways to give loans to people who
couldn't afford them. And the president said: See, look how many
people were able to buy houses under my adminstration (Clinton
anyone?)


its all very nice to say we shouldnt pay extortion
but we need the banks to do something for us

If you can't afford it, you can't afford it. It's not the bank's, nor
is it the taxpayers responsibility to see that you get money that you
*think* you need/deserve.

Nobody said life was fair.

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:08:26 -0700, rand mair fheal
wrote:

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.

Just like an alcoholic, give them money and they won't go by a meal
and try to straighten themselves out, they go by more alcohol.

usa economy requires credit to run
frb is not allowed to extend credit to the general public

unless banks are forced to extend credit to the general public
how would you propose to get credit opened without paying the extortion

This is what's gotten us into the fix we're in now. Everybody's
squaking about de-regulation, but the problem is just the opposite.

like i said before

the true believers will not accept their church has failed
they will instead argue the market has not been free enough

testify brother testify

The banks were forced to come up with ways to give loans to people who
couldn't afford them. And the president said: See, look how many
people were able to buy houses under my adminstration (Clinton
anyone?)

so youve statistics of how many of which style of loans have failed?

its all very nice to say we shouldnt pay extortion
but we need the banks to do something for us

If you can't afford it, you can't afford it. It's not the bank's, nor
is it the taxpayers responsibility to see that you get money that you
*think* you need/deserve.

Nobody said life was fair.

okay so we have two votes in favor of depression

business are required to use credit instead of cash
to prevent hostile buyouts
and now you want them to use cash instead of credit
to prevent dependence on banks

so i take it you want to get rid of all publicly traded businesses?

arf meow arf - cats and dogs living together - who ya goin call
its the end of the world as you know it - filler text goes here
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:00:34 -0700, rand mair fheal wrote:

In article ,
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:08:26 -0700, rand mair fheal wrote:

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.

Just like an alcoholic, give them money and they won't go by a meal
and try to straighten themselves out, they go by more alcohol.

usa economy requires credit to run

No, it does not. That's a common misconception perpetrated to keep
America addicted to credit, interest payments to overlords.

publicly traded business that keep sufficient cash on hand not to need
credit are then subject to take overs to grab that cash

Even if that were true, which it is not, so what? I operated my own
business for close to 30 years without a single loan. Credit is an
addiction. Go for it if you want but do not assume that everyone has your
bad habit.

thanks to the lord your reagan business that survive have their assets
and liabilitlies as close together as possible

Do not make the same idiotic mistake that cockroach and gunner wallow in.
You cannot possibly know my position without asking or seeing me post it
somewhere, I am much more complex than many here. Do not assume the right
to misrepresent my position, claim to have ESP, or to speak for me.

changing that requires changing laws and regulations

To let those responsible deal with their own malpractice. Let banks
fail, let the managers dig holes for a living, stay out of the
disaster.
When the dust settles continue on with life without their debt
obligation.

so thats a vote for depression

Given your erroneous prediction above, what makes you think a depression
is inevitable? Can you promise that $700,000,000,000.00 will prevent a
depresssion?

And stop sniping, you've chopped out a number of issues which I rebutted
and you had no viable response to.

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In article ,
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:00:34 -0700, rand mair fheal wrote:

In article ,
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:08:26 -0700, rand mair fheal wrote:

In article ,
Matt Stawicki wrote:

Wallstreet, et all, took advantage of it, and they need to go down.
Otherwise, all you're doing is enabling them to do more of the same.

Just like an alcoholic, give them money and they won't go by a meal
and try to straighten themselves out, they go by more alcohol.

usa economy requires credit to run

No, it does not. That's a common misconception perpetrated to keep
America addicted to credit, interest payments to overlords.

publicly traded business that keep sufficient cash on hand not to need
credit are then subject to take overs to grab that cash

Even if that were true, which it is not, so what? I operated my own
business for close to 30 years without a single loan. Credit is an

was it publicly trade company?

arf meow arf - cats and dogs living together - who ya goin call
its the end of the world as you know it - filler text goes here
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang
this is how the world ends - not with a whimper but with a bang