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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
"hizark21" wrote in message
... ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF (http://www.cyclingnews.com/ news.php?id=news/2008/jun08/jun04news ). It's simply ridiculous that the ASO is refusing to let Astana enter the TDF. The ASO should have put forth a set of condtions for Astana to meet if they wished to enter the TDF. Astana is the dominant spring team now and they deserve to ride in the TDF. The Tour de France this year is one of the "Asterisk" races where the winner will only be the winner because his real competition isn't there. |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
On Jun 4, 2:14 pm, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
wrote: ... Bruyneel and Contador is the problem, Astana has nothing to do with it. ' Do you mean Bruyneel and Contador together are the problem, or each individually are problems? ASO says Contador by himself is not a problem: http://velonews.com/article/77008/co...ep-with-vuelta “We have nothing against Contador, but rather against the team’s repeated errors,” Tour director Christian Prudhomme told the Spanish wire service, EFE. “If Astana doesn’t have any problems in 2008, we would take a different decision for the next edition of the Tour de France.” |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
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Bob Schwartz wrote: John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:56:58 -0700 (PDT), hizark21 wrote: ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF (http://www.cyclingnews.com/ news.php?id=news/2008/jun08/jun04news ). It's simply ridiculous that the ASO is refusing to let Astana enter the TDF. The ASO should have put forth a set of condtions for Astana to meet if they wished to enter the TDF. Astana is the dominant spring team now and they deserve to ride in the TDF. I'm not saying I agree with ASO's decisions, but you don't get it. They told Astana they'll let them in after a year with no scandals. It's clear. Astana could sweep the top ten in every race they get into, and that wouldn't help then get into the Tour of France. In fact, it would probably hurt. Indeed. Astana has ****ed in the Tour's soup twice now. They've earned this. ASO looks like the bad guy now. They could invite Astana. The team they replace could be recompensed. Astana is hurt by their exclusion: no exposure in the most widely seen bicycle race. Astana takes the Vuelta. -- Michael Press |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
Michael Press wrote:
In article , Bob Schwartz wrote: John Forrest Tomlinson wrote: On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:56:58 -0700 (PDT), hizark21 wrote: ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF (http://www.cyclingnews.com/ news.php?id=news/2008/jun08/jun04news ). It's simply ridiculous that the ASO is refusing to let Astana enter the TDF. The ASO should have put forth a set of condtions for Astana to meet if they wished to enter the TDF. Astana is the dominant spring team now and they deserve to ride in the TDF. I'm not saying I agree with ASO's decisions, but you don't get it. They told Astana they'll let them in after a year with no scandals. It's clear. Astana could sweep the top ten in every race they get into, and that wouldn't help then get into the Tour of France. In fact, it would probably hurt. Indeed. Astana has ****ed in the Tour's soup twice now. They've earned this. ASO looks like the bad guy now. They could invite Astana. The team they replace could be recompensed. Astana is hurt by their exclusion: no exposure in the most widely seen bicycle race. Astana takes the Vuelta. On the other hand, I suspect that one of the top stories during the TdF will be the exclusion of Astana. That's still exposure. Heck, if I were JB and ASO invited Astana at this point, I'd say "no thanks, we only race the really competitive tours". /dave a |
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"dave a" wrote in message ... ASO looks like the bad guy now. They could invite Astana. The team they replace could be recompensed. Astana is hurt by their exclusion: no exposure in the most widely seen bicycle race. Astana takes the Vuelta. On the other hand, I suspect that one of the top stories during the TdF will be the exclusion of Astana. That's still exposure. It's exposure, but it's minimal and it's not visual. If that type of exposure was significantly beneficial, Unibet would still be around this season as a sponsor. |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
m... "hizark21" wrote in message ... ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF (http://www.cyclingnews.com/ news.php?id=news/2008/jun08/jun04news ). It's simply ridiculous that the ASO is refusing to let Astana enter the TDF. The ASO should have put forth a set of condtions for Astana to meet if they wished to enter the TDF. Astana is the dominant spring team now and they deserve to ride in the TDF. The Tour de France this year is one of the "Asterisk" races where the winner will only be the winner because his real competition isn't there. For that to happen it would take a guy like Cadel Evans to that he won't be racing the TdF this year because, given the reduced stature of the event without last year's winner, he would be better off sitting it out and targeting the Olympic road race instead. I don't think that's likely to happen. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
Carl Sundquist wrote:
"dave a" wrote in message ... ASO looks like the bad guy now. They could invite Astana. The team they replace could be recompensed. Astana is hurt by their exclusion: no exposure in the most widely seen bicycle race. Astana takes the Vuelta. On the other hand, I suspect that one of the top stories during the TdF will be the exclusion of Astana. That's still exposure. It's exposure, but it's minimal and it's not visual. If that type of exposure was significantly beneficial, Unibet would still be around this season as a sponsor. Unibet didn't win the Giro last year... /dave a |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
"dave a" wrote in message ... Carl Sundquist wrote: "dave a" wrote in message ... ASO looks like the bad guy now. They could invite Astana. The team they replace could be recompensed. Astana is hurt by their exclusion: no exposure in the most widely seen bicycle race. Astana takes the Vuelta. On the other hand, I suspect that one of the top stories during the TdF will be the exclusion of Astana. That's still exposure. It's exposure, but it's minimal and it's not visual. If that type of exposure was significantly beneficial, Unibet would still be around this season as a sponsor. Unibet didn't win the Giro last year... /dave a You're right. How big was the Basso story last year during the Tour? Did it sustain itself as a top story for all three weeks? |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
And yet some believe that was possibly the cleanest Giro in a very long time, specifically because Astana was there, which put everything under a microscope. Every year someone explains why cycling is finally clean. Every year. Don't get me wrong, that's a good thing. Being stridently wrong about this is what finally embarrassed Lafferty onto leaving. |
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ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF
dave a wrote:
On the other hand, I suspect that one of the top stories during the TdF will be the exclusion of Astana. That's still exposure. Astana doesn't sell anything. Exposure is meaningless. |
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