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Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance
By Lance Pugmire
Los Angeles Times September 21, 2010 11:40 p.m. Lance Armstrong for years has denied allegations that he confessed to cancer doctors about using performance-enhancing drugs. The allegations, never proved, did not diminish the seven-time Tour de France winner as he built his sporting legend beyond cycling to become a leader in the fight against cancer and inspiring trust and hope through his "Livestrong" foundation. Now, one of his close associates, Stephanie McIlvain, has been summoned to appear before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles on Wednesday to clarify what he said to those doctors. McIlvain, a longtime liaison to Armstrong for Oakley Inc., one of his major sponsors, was there. In a 2005 deposition in an unrelated civil case, McIlvain testified she never heard Armstrong admit anything about using performance-enhancing drugs in that hospital room in 1996. In a secretly recorded telephone chat with former Tour de France champion Greg LeMond — allegedly conducted a year earlier — McIlvain is asked about the hospital incident and tells LeMond she heard "it," though she never specifies what "it" is. The recording is in the hands of federal prosecutors and The Times has reviewed it. Scrutinizing McIlvain's accounts will be the focus of her scheduled appearance in front of the grand jury, which is looking into allegations of rampant drug use in cycling, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation but who declined to go on the record because federal law prohibits discussion of the secret proceedings. The grand jury is also looking into allegations by former Armstrong teammate Floyd Landis that Armstrong and other riders on the now-defunct U.S. Postal Service team facilitated drug use, according to the source and others. Armstrong, who has not been subpoenaed, has repeatedly denied ever using drugs. McIlvain, in her conversation with LeMond, criticized Armstrong, who at the time was in the midst of his record run of Tour de France titles after overcoming cancer. Although she doesn't specifically connect Armstrong to drug use, over the course of the 30-minute conversation, McIlvain refers to Armstrong as a liar but never clarifies what she accuses him of lying about. LeMond taped McIlvain without her knowledge, but law expert Laurie Levenson told The Times last week that single-party consent tapings are presentable in federal cases. "So many people protect him that it's just sickening," McIlvain told LeMond on the tape, adding she "can't even watch" his then-run for a sixth title. McIlvain's son has autism, and she told LeMond on the tape it bothered her that Armstrong had been portrayed as an inspirational athlete. "He's giving how many people false hope?" McIlvain asked LeMond. "[It's] the most disgusting thing ever for someone to do. Coming as someone whose son has a handicap, you look to people for hope and strength. That kills me." McIlvain, who lives in Orange County, has declined to return several messages left by The Times. Her attorney, Tom Bienert, did not return messages Tuesday but told The Times last week that LeMond had an "agenda" and was "attempting to get people to say things that are incriminating." On the tape McIlvain said of Armstrong "even his best friend" [who goes unnamed in the recording] is aware "he's on it." She closes by saying, "I'd love for it to come out." The allegations that Armstrong had confessed in 1996 were first raised by his former teammate Frankie Andreu and Andreu's wife, Betsy, who also were in the Indianapolis hospital room. She says she repeated that account to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who works for the Food and Drug Administration and was the chief investigator in the BALCO steroids scandal. A member of Armstrong's legal team, Mark Fabiani, said Tuesday in an e-mail that, "It makes no sense to waste the money of taxpayers and the time of the FDA and the grand jury on very old issues that were long ago fully examined. Ms. McIlvain has already testified at length under oath in 2005, and the mythical hospital meeting has been completely disproved by both witnesses and medical records." http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2720319.story |
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Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance
On 9/22/2010 1:48 PM, Magilla Gorilla wrote:
By Lance Pugmire Los Angeles Times September 21, 2010 11:40 p.m. Lance Armstrong for years has denied allegations that he confessed to cancer doctors about using performance-enhancing drugs. The allegations, never proved, did not diminish the seven-time Tour de France winner as he built his sporting legend beyond cycling to become a leader in the fight against cancer and inspiring trust and hope through his "Livestrong" foundation. Now, one of his close associates, Stephanie McIlvain, has been summoned to appear before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles on Wednesday to clarify what he said to those doctors. McIlvain, a longtime liaison to Armstrong for Oakley Inc., one of his major sponsors, was there. In a 2005 deposition in an unrelated civil case, McIlvain testified she never heard Armstrong admit anything about using performance-enhancing drugs in that hospital room in 1996. In a secretly recorded telephone chat with former Tour de France champion Greg LeMond — allegedly conducted a year earlier — McIlvain is asked about the hospital incident and tells LeMond she heard "it," though she never specifies what "it" is. The recording is in the hands of federal prosecutors and The Times has reviewed it. Scrutinizing McIlvain's accounts will be the focus of her scheduled appearance in front of the grand jury, which is looking into allegations of rampant drug use in cycling, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation but who declined to go on the record because federal law prohibits discussion of the secret proceedings. The grand jury is also looking into allegations by former Armstrong teammate Floyd Landis that Armstrong and other riders on the now-defunct U.S. Postal Service team facilitated drug use, according to the source and others. Armstrong, who has not been subpoenaed, has repeatedly denied ever using drugs. McIlvain, in her conversation with LeMond, criticized Armstrong, who at the time was in the midst of his record run of Tour de France titles after overcoming cancer. Although she doesn't specifically connect Armstrong to drug use, over the course of the 30-minute conversation, McIlvain refers to Armstrong as a liar but never clarifies what she accuses him of lying about. LeMond taped McIlvain without her knowledge, but law expert Laurie Levenson told The Times last week that single-party consent tapings are presentable in federal cases. "So many people protect him that it's just sickening," McIlvain told LeMond on the tape, adding she "can't even watch" his then-run for a sixth title. McIlvain's son has autism, and she told LeMond on the tape it bothered her that Armstrong had been portrayed as an inspirational athlete. "He's giving how many people false hope?" McIlvain asked LeMond. "[It's] the most disgusting thing ever for someone to do. Coming as someone whose son has a handicap, you look to people for hope and strength. That kills me." McIlvain, who lives in Orange County, has declined to return several messages left by The Times. Her attorney, Tom Bienert, did not return messages Tuesday but told The Times last week that LeMond had an "agenda" and was "attempting to get people to say things that are incriminating." On the tape McIlvain said of Armstrong "even his best friend" [who goes unnamed in the recording] is aware "he's on it." She closes by saying, "I'd love for it to come out." The allegations that Armstrong had confessed in 1996 were first raised by his former teammate Frankie Andreu and Andreu's wife, Betsy, who also were in the Indianapolis hospital room. She says she repeated that account to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who works for the Food and Drug Administration and was the chief investigator in the BALCO steroids scandal. A member of Armstrong's legal team, Mark Fabiani, said Tuesday in an e-mail that, "It makes no sense to waste the money of taxpayers and the time of the FDA and the grand jury on very old issues that were long ago fully examined. Ms. McIlvain has already testified at length under oath in 2005, and the mythical hospital meeting has been completely disproved by both witnesses and medical records." http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2720319.story Fabio. He's da man! |
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Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance
The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's
relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line. Does anybody have a timeline someplace that shows who's been called up and when? Obviously much of it is not known, but just as obviously much is. Such as today's testimony by Stephanie. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA "Magilla Gorilla" wrote in message ... By Lance Pugmire Los Angeles Times September 21, 2010 11:40 p.m. Lance Armstrong for years has denied allegations that he confessed to cancer doctors about using performance-enhancing drugs. The allegations, never proved, did not diminish the seven-time Tour de France winner as he built his sporting legend beyond cycling to become a leader in the fight against cancer and inspiring trust and hope through his "Livestrong" foundation. Now, one of his close associates, Stephanie McIlvain, has been summoned to appear before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles on Wednesday to clarify what he said to those doctors. McIlvain, a longtime liaison to Armstrong for Oakley Inc., one of his major sponsors, was there. In a 2005 deposition in an unrelated civil case, McIlvain testified she never heard Armstrong admit anything about using performance-enhancing drugs in that hospital room in 1996. In a secretly recorded telephone chat with former Tour de France champion Greg LeMond - allegedly conducted a year earlier - McIlvain is asked about the hospital incident and tells LeMond she heard "it," though she never specifies what "it" is. The recording is in the hands of federal prosecutors and The Times has reviewed it. Scrutinizing McIlvain's accounts will be the focus of her scheduled appearance in front of the grand jury, which is looking into allegations of rampant drug use in cycling, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation but who declined to go on the record because federal law prohibits discussion of the secret proceedings. The grand jury is also looking into allegations by former Armstrong teammate Floyd Landis that Armstrong and other riders on the now-defunct U.S. Postal Service team facilitated drug use, according to the source and others. Armstrong, who has not been subpoenaed, has repeatedly denied ever using drugs. McIlvain, in her conversation with LeMond, criticized Armstrong, who at the time was in the midst of his record run of Tour de France titles after overcoming cancer. Although she doesn't specifically connect Armstrong to drug use, over the course of the 30-minute conversation, McIlvain refers to Armstrong as a liar but never clarifies what she accuses him of lying about. LeMond taped McIlvain without her knowledge, but law expert Laurie Levenson told The Times last week that single-party consent tapings are presentable in federal cases. "So many people protect him that it's just sickening," McIlvain told LeMond on the tape, adding she "can't even watch" his then-run for a sixth title. McIlvain's son has autism, and she told LeMond on the tape it bothered her that Armstrong had been portrayed as an inspirational athlete. "He's giving how many people false hope?" McIlvain asked LeMond. "[It's] the most disgusting thing ever for someone to do. Coming as someone whose son has a handicap, you look to people for hope and strength. That kills me." McIlvain, who lives in Orange County, has declined to return several messages left by The Times. Her attorney, Tom Bienert, did not return messages Tuesday but told The Times last week that LeMond had an "agenda" and was "attempting to get people to say things that are incriminating." On the tape McIlvain said of Armstrong "even his best friend" [who goes unnamed in the recording] is aware "he's on it." She closes by saying, "I'd love for it to come out." The allegations that Armstrong had confessed in 1996 were first raised by his former teammate Frankie Andreu and Andreu's wife, Betsy, who also were in the Indianapolis hospital room. She says she repeated that account to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who works for the Food and Drug Administration and was the chief investigator in the BALCO steroids scandal. A member of Armstrong's legal team, Mark Fabiani, said Tuesday in an e-mail that, "It makes no sense to waste the money of taxpayers and the time of the FDA and the grand jury on very old issues that were long ago fully examined. Ms. McIlvain has already testified at length under oath in 2005, and the mythical hospital meeting has been completely disproved by both witnesses and medical records." http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2720319.story |
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Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance
On Sep 22, 11:57*am, BLafferty wrote:
Fabio. *He's da man! He's a lawyer. Wouldn't you be doing the same if Lance were your client? Brad Anders |
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Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance
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Brad Anders wrote: On Sep 22, 11:57*am, BLafferty wrote: Fabio. *He's da man! He's a lawyer. Wouldn't you be doing the same if Lance were your client? Don't you mean: "He's a lawyer. Wouldn't you be doing the same if you had any clients?" |
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Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance
On Sep 22, 6:06*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...trong-20100923 DR |
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Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance
On Sep 23, 3:04*pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Sep 22, 6:06*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote: The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...nce-armstrong-... DR "Bienert said McIlvain "testified truthfully. Most of what she was asked about was between five and 14 years old, so she didn't have the greatest recall. But she confirmed she had no personal knowledge of Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs."" Well, doesn't look like she changed her tune. We'll now see if she's convicted of perjury as many here have said she will. My bet is she won't be charged. Brad Anders |
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They can't let Stephanie walk
"Brad Anders" wrote in message
... On Sep 23, 3:04 pm, DirtRoadie wrote: On Sep 22, 6:06 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote: The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...nce-armstrong-... DR ======= "Bienert said McIlvain "testified truthfully. Most of what she was asked about was between five and 14 years old, so she didn't have the greatest recall. But she confirmed she had no personal knowledge of Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs."" Well, doesn't look like she changed her tune. We'll now see if she's convicted of perjury as many here have said she will. My bet is she won't be charged. Brad Anders ======== If it's at all reasonable to charge her with perjury, they *HAVE* to. Her situation is so well-known (the recorded conversations with BA) that her treatment sets a standard that all others will be looking to, regarding their own cases. If they (the Grand Jury & prosecutor) let her walk, without challenging her, they're nuts. The lost leverage would be extreme. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA |
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They can't let Stephanie walk
On 9/23/2010 7:52 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
"Brad Anders" wrote in message ... On Sep 23, 3:04 pm, DirtRoadie wrote: On Sep 22, 6:06 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote: The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...nce-armstrong-... DR ======= "Bienert said McIlvain "testified truthfully. Most of what she was asked about was between five and 14 years old, so she didn't have the greatest recall. But she confirmed she had no personal knowledge of Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs."" Well, doesn't look like she changed her tune. We'll now see if she's convicted of perjury as many here have said she will. My bet is she won't be charged. Brad Anders ======== If it's at all reasonable to charge her with perjury, they *HAVE* to. Her situation is so well-known (the recorded conversations with BA) that her treatment sets a standard that all others will be looking to, regarding their own cases. If they (the Grand Jury & prosecutor) let her walk, without challenging her, they're nuts. The lost leverage would be extreme. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA She's just ****ed off the prosecution. She will be charged. And the AUSA has probably got a major hard on now to get Lance as well. Foolish of her. |
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They can't let Stephanie walk
BLafferty wrote:
She's just ****ed off the prosecution. She will be charged. And the AUSA has probably got a major hard on now to get Lance as well. Foolish of her. I'm curious. Do you think she hasn't talked to legal counsel that is more competent than a guy like yourself that can't find work in the profession? Seems unlikely. Fred Flintstein |
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