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It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up
religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. |
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Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Hallelujah!! I have seen the light and will thusforth endeavour to only comment on the true bicycling religion posts. So what’s wrong with a steel-framed bike with a 3x9 drivetrain and canti brakes with tubed tires on 36 spoke wheels? It also has fenders, racks and a dynamo hub. See Frank, we are brethren of the same tribe. |
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On 6/21/2020 7:28 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Hallelujah!! I have seen the light and will thusforth endeavour to only comment on the true bicycling religion posts. So what’s wrong with a steel-framed bike with a 3x9 drivetrain and canti brakes with tubed tires on 36 spoke wheels? It also has fenders, racks and a dynamo hub. See Frank, we are brethren of the same tribe. Frank (peace unto him) shall admit ye to the tribe of Utility. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 19:35:21 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/21/2020 7:28 PM, Ralph Barone wrote: Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Hallelujah!! I have seen the light and will thusforth endeavour to only comment on the true bicycling religion posts. So what’s wrong with a steel-framed bike with a 3x9 drivetrain and canti brakes with tubed tires on 36 spoke wheels? It also has fenders, racks and a dynamo hub. See Frank, we are brethren of the same tribe. Frank (peace unto him) shall admit ye to the tribe of Utility. What's next? A crusade against plastic bicycles? -- cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 19:35:21 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 6/21/2020 7:28 PM, Ralph Barone wrote: Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Hallelujah!! I have seen the light and will thusforth endeavour to only comment on the true bicycling religion posts. So what’s wrong with a steel-framed bike with a 3x9 drivetrain and canti brakes with tubed tires on 36 spoke wheels? It also has fenders, racks and a dynamo hub. See Frank, we are brethren of the same tribe. Frank (peace unto him) shall admit ye to the tribe of Utility. What's next? A crusade against plastic bicycles? -- cheers, John B. Only if we can get some seed funding from the Pope. |
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On 6/21/2020 8:20 PM, Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature.Â* I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's.Â* And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it.Â* If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper.Â* Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do.Â* No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components?Â* Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth.Â* And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn.Â* Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch.Â* And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them.Â* For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others.Â* And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil.Â* -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it.Â* - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved.Â* - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it?Â* And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Well done! :-) -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 01:31:59 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote: John B. wrote: On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 19:35:21 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 6/21/2020 7:28 PM, Ralph Barone wrote: Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Hallelujah!! I have seen the light and will thusforth endeavour to only comment on the true bicycling religion posts. So what’s wrong with a steel-framed bike with a 3x9 drivetrain and canti brakes with tubed tires on 36 spoke wheels? It also has fenders, racks and a dynamo hub. See Frank, we are brethren of the same tribe. Frank (peace unto him) shall admit ye to the tribe of Utility. What's next? A crusade against plastic bicycles? -- cheers, John B. Only if we can get some seed funding from the Pope. Hmmm... On the other hand plastic bikes are generally black so one might assume that those with plastic bikes would be authorized to riot in the streets ?? -- cheers, John B. |
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On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 1:21:00 AM UTC+1, Mark J. wrote:
It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. I wish I said that first! -- AJ |
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On 22/06/2020 02:20, Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. |
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On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad). |
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