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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On 28/11/2013 19:55, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:32:00 +0000, Mrcheerful wrote: hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html That is fewer than the estimated 66% of motorists who, given the opportunity, will jump red lights. No no no, this was caught on cameras set up by London cabbies who see this happening all day every day but are never believed. Not the anti-motorist made-up stats careering around in your head. Try and understand the difference. Perhaps you could watch the unedited videos on Youtube and let us know how near to 66% drivers reached. I bet it's not even 5%. Can you provide any videos of the coach drivers endangering our lives on the motorway by doing 70 mph? |
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On 28/11/2013 16:32, Mrcheerful wrote:
hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html I ask you once again, what is your answer to bad habits by cycling? A credible answer that will not prevent/discourage people from the sport, please. |
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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 18:09:48 +0000, Bertie Wooster
wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:32:00 +0000, Mrcheerful wrote: hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html That is fewer than the estimated 66% of motorists who, given the opportunity, will jump red lights. Ah yes: "The Crispin Made Up Figure" I know that you are not bright - but cannot even you see that a figure plucked out of the air by an ex-infant school teacher with no scientific basis whatsoever - is just a little different from figures produced from actual camera records? |
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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 19:58:50 -0000, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html I saw this on the London news, they invited a cabbie's spokesman on, and some stupid psycholist-friendly woman "personal injury compo solicitor" who said that the filming was well out of order, and that it sends out the wrong messages. She said that everyone should be working together to make the roads safer, he said "Does jumping red lights make the roads safer?". Typical psycholist attitude - it's never our fault. "Mike Cavenett, spokesman for the London Cycling Campaign, said: Evidence shows that red light jumping causes a tiny proportion of collisions. This view is backed up by police data showing that only two per cent of London’s cycling collisions are attributable to cyclists going through red lights,......... ....... because of alert motorists who avoid the law-breaking cyclists." |
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 23:20:12 +0000, Brian Robertson wrote:
On 28/11/2013 16:32, Mrcheerful wrote: hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html I ask you once again, what is your answer to bad habits by cycling? Compulsory education and a test of competence. -- Glug, glug.......... down the plug. |
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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On 29/11/2013 06:42, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 23:20:12 +0000, Brian Robertson wrote: On 28/11/2013 16:32, Mrcheerful wrote: hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html I ask you once again, what is your answer to bad habits by cycling? Compulsory education and a test of competence. -- Glug, glug.......... down the plug. ....said the transvestite troll. |
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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On 29/11/2013 06:36, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 18:09:48 +0000, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:32:00 +0000, Mrcheerful wrote: hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html That is fewer than the estimated 66% of motorists who, given the opportunity, will jump red lights. Ah yes: "The Crispin Made Up Figure" I know that you are not bright - but cannot even you see that a figure plucked out of the air by an ex-infant school teacher with no scientific basis whatsoever - is just a little different from figures produced from actual camera records? ....said the transvestite troll. Is that a bit like saying that compulsory training and education for cyclists wouldn't discourage people from cycling? |
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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On 29/11/2013 06:41, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 19:58:50 -0000, "Mentalguy2k8" wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html I saw this on the London news, they invited a cabbie's spokesman on, and some stupid psycholist-friendly woman "personal injury compo solicitor" who said that the filming was well out of order, and that it sends out the wrong messages. She said that everyone should be working together to make the roads safer, he said "Does jumping red lights make the roads safer?". Typical psycholist attitude - it's never our fault. "Mike Cavenett, spokesman for the London Cycling Campaign, said: Evidence shows that red light jumping causes a tiny proportion of collisions. This view is backed up by police data showing that only two per cent of London’s cycling collisions are attributable to cyclists going through red lights,......... ...... because of alert motorists who avoid the law-breaking cyclists." ....said the transvestite troll. Could it not have something to do with the fact that even the most stupid of cyclists actually looks both ways before crashing a set of lights? |
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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 16:32:00 UTC, Mrcheerful wrote:
hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html So in the "0.045% of offences committed by cyclists" thread it's not valid to apply this to the whole population, but it's OK to extrapolate a Mickey Mouse survey at one set of traffic lights. Please explain. |
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over half of cyclists jump red lights
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 06:36:59 +0000, Judith
wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 18:09:48 +0000, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:32:00 +0000, Mrcheerful wrote: hidden camera shows the awful truth http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...e-8969043.html That is fewer than the estimated 66% of motorists who, given the opportunity, will jump red lights. Ah yes: "The Crispin Made Up Figure" I know that you are not bright - but cannot even you see that a figure plucked out of the air by an ex-infant school teacher with no scientific basis whatsoever - is just a little different from figures produced from actual camera records? I posted evidence of that figure at the Bow roundabout. |
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