Good commercial rack for parkade?

Hey all;

Looking at recommending replacement racks to my company. They have an
underground parkade from which a number of bikes have been stolen lately.
Part of the problem is that the racks are mostly of the "small loop on the
ground" style, which only allows a wheel to be locked up. What I'm looking
for are opinions on the best racks which provide the following:

1) Relatively high bike density.
2) Allow (encourage!) locking the bike FRAME to the rack with a U-lock.
3) Don't hold the weight of the bike by the wheel.
4) Don't prevent bikes with wide/knobby tires from being locked up.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,
Colin

On Jul 12, 3:33*pm, "Colin B." wrote:
Hey all;

Looking at recommending replacement racks to my company. They have an
underground parkade from which a number of bikes have been stolen lately.
Part of the problem is that the racks are mostly of the "small loop on the
ground" style, which only allows a wheel to be locked up. What I'm looking
for are opinions on the best racks which provide the following:

1) Relatively high bike density.
2) Allow (encourage!) locking the bike FRAME to the rack with a U-lock.
3) Don't hold the weight of the bike by the wheel.
4) Don't prevent bikes with wide/knobby tires from being locked up.

Chicago style wave racks are the best design IMHO. They allow for a
wide variety of locking methods and they're fairly inexpensive. Embed
them in the concrete or use very long security bolts.

On 7/13/10 2:17 PM, landotter wrote:

Chicago style wave racks are the best design IMHO.

I prefer those, too.

Kevan Smith wrote:
:On 7/13/10 2:17 PM, landotter wrote:

: Chicago style wave racks are the best design IMHO.

:I prefer those, too.

The advertised capacities are much higher than reality, though.

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On Jul 13, 4:30*pm, Kevan Smith wrote:
On 7/13/10 2:17 PM, landotter wrote:

Chicago style wave racks are the best design IMHO.

I prefer those, too.

If they're installed with proper setback. A local coffeeshop has one
installed a foot from a brick wall, rendering it nearly useless.

Yahoo Flickr and Picasa hold photos of imaginative designs.
When pressed, I use an uncuttable chain thru wheels and tubes locked
with a $30 Schlage type lock.

On Jul 12, 1:33 pm, "Colin B." wrote:
Hey all;

Looking at recommending replacement racks to my company. They have an
underground parkade from which a number of bikes have been stolen lately.
Part of the problem is that the racks are mostly of the "small loop on the
ground" style, which only allows a wheel to be locked up. What I'm looking
for are opinions on the best racks which provide the following:

1) Relatively high bike density.
2) Allow (encourage!) locking the bike FRAME to the rack with a U-lock.
3) Don't hold the weight of the bike by the wheel.
4) Don't prevent bikes with wide/knobby tires from being locked up.

Any suggestions?


Yeah, take out *all* the parking spaces for cars, and put in enclosed
bike lockers, benches, showers, bike work stands, Clif Bar vending
machines, etc.

David Scheidt wrote:
Kevan Smith wrote:
:On 7/13/10 2:17 PM, landotter wrote:

: Chicago style wave racks are the best design IMHO.

:I prefer those, too.

The advertised capacities are much higher than reality, though.

From what I've seen, I don't imagine that the bike density is significantly
less than most other designs, though. I think I'm getting sold on those,
the more I look.

The other style that a friend mentioned was more like this:
http://www.dero.com/products/campus_...mpus_rack.html

I'm also curious what people think of this one, from the same manufacturer:
http://www.dero.com/products/hi_roller/hi_roller.html

Anyways, thanks for the input so far.

Colin

Colin B. wrote:
avid Scheidt wrote:
: Kevan Smith wrote:
: :On 7/13/10 2:17 PM, landotter wrote:
:
: : Chicago style wave racks are the best design IMHO.
:
: :I prefer those, too.
:
: The advertised capacities are much higher than reality, though.

:From what I've seen, I don't imagine that the bike density is significantly
:less than most other designs, though. I think I'm getting sold on those,
:the more I look.

They're used very often broadside, with bikes along their length.
That turns a "seven" or 'nine" bike rack into a two or three bike
rack. A inverted U rack has the same space requirements, when
installed in sets, but is substantailly more likely to be used
correctly. They're also easier to attach a bike to, particularly a
bike with baskets, paniers, trailer, etc.
see what Denver has to say about them:
http://www.denvergov.org/Bicycle_Pro...5/Default.aspx

The wave racks look better, but they don't work as well. Inverted U,
or some variation on them (with a cross bar), is probably the ideal
rack.


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On 7/14/10 12:54 PM, Colin B. wrote:
The other style that a friend mentioned was more like this:
http://www.dero.com/products/campus_...mpus_rack.html

I'm also curious what people think of this one, from the same manufacturer:
http://www.dero.com/products/hi_roller/hi_roller.html

I've never used wither of those types, but they look like they'd be
good. Just about anything is better than a rack like this:

http://www.commercialbicycleracks.ne...?ic=CB115-1160