Home drink/gel recipes??

On 13 Jul 2005 23:59:19 -0700, "Bruce Dickson"
wrote:




I did a bit more looking around on the web. It seems Dextrose and
Glucose are exactly the same as I thought. The one in the
Dictionary.com defintion C6H12O6·H2O is Dextrose monohydrate (ie
contains water) and C6H12O6 is Dextrose anhydrous (no water) see
http://www.starch.dk/isi/starch/glosary.htm not that it really matters
much since you put it in water to drink it.

heh, yes. I wonder why Steric (maker of staminade) would change
the name? Is it trendy to call glucose dextrose or something?

On 14 Jul 2005 02:14:19 -0700, "Random Data" wrote:

Carl Brewer wrote:

Always laughed at the homebrew section, next to the soft drinks. Kids
can stroll in, buy a kit, go home, make beer .. but they can't go
into the boozatorium next door and buy ready-made beer.

That's simply because the law says it's illegal to supply *alcohol*.
Supplying the precursors is impossible to regulate, since you can
ferment just about any carbohydrate - witness the truly silly range of
beverages available. I'm sure someone, somewhere has tried to make
moonshine out of sunflowers, just for the silliness factor.

Of course, but it's still amusing

Carl Brewer Wrote:
On 14 Jul 2005 02:14:19 -0700, "Random Data" wrote:

Carl Brewer wrote:

Always laughed at the homebrew section, next to the soft drinks
Kids
can stroll in, buy a kit, go home, make beer .. but they can't go
into the boozatorium next door and buy ready-made beer.

That's simply because the law says it's illegal to supply *alcohol*.
Supplying the precursors is impossible to regulate, since you can
ferment just about any carbohydrate - witness the truly silly rang
of
beverages available. I'm sure someone, somewhere has tried to make
moonshine out of sunflowers, just for the silliness factor.

Of course, but it's still amusing

Its not the brewing that is amusing

--
PiledHigher

Random Data Wrote:
That's simply because the law says it's illegal to supply *alcohol*
Supplying the precursors is impossible to regulate, since you ca
ferment just about any carbohydrate - witness the truly silly range of
beverages available. I'm sure someone, somewhere has tried to make
moonshine out of sunflowers, just for the silliness factor.


I did something extremely stupid with woodwood & cinzano, once. Ende
up in casualty. But one was young & silly there. I'm much more grownu
now.

Ah, need a real cyclists beverage? Try a Radler, er shandy.
http://www.monteiths.co.nz/showroom/radler.html

PS. Monteiths Black seriously rocks. Dark, mysterious, the perfec
winter beer. :

--
cfsmtb

Carl Brewer Wrote:
On 13 Jul 2005 23:59:19 -0700, "Bruce Dickson"
wrote:




I did a bit more looking around on the web. It seems Dextrose and
Glucose are exactly the same as I thought. The one in the
Dictionary.com defintion C6H12O6·H2O is Dextrose monohydrate (ie
contains water) and C6H12O6 is Dextrose anhydrous (no water) see
http://www.starch.dk/isi/starch/glosary.htm not that it reall
matters
much since you put it in water to drink it.

heh, yes. I wonder why Steric (maker of staminade) would change
the name? Is it trendy to call glucose dextrose or something?

Not a wizzard on this chemistry stuff but from the site above:
"Hydrol. Mother liquor left by crystallisation of dextrose from glucos
syrup" and " Glucose. Glucose is a monosaccharide, C6H12O6 existing as
- and ß-glucose with an optical rotation of +105.2o respectively +20,3o
The synonym dextrose refers to the positive direction of rotatio
(dextra = right)"

So from that I gather that glucose syrup with the hydrol removed i
dextrose. I have no idea what food value hydrol has.
Looks as if dextrose is powder and glucose can be liquid or powder.
Are we confused yet.

Hug

--
HughMann

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:29:26 +1000, HughMann
wrote:


Carl Brewer Wrote:
On 13 Jul 2005 23:59:19 -0700, "Bruce Dickson"
wrote:




I did a bit more looking around on the web. It seems Dextrose and
Glucose are exactly the same as I thought. The one in the
Dictionary.com defintion C6H12O6·H2O is Dextrose monohydrate (ie
contains water) and C6H12O6 is Dextrose anhydrous (no water) see
http://www.starch.dk/isi/starch/glosary.htm not that it really
matters
much since you put it in water to drink it.

heh, yes. I wonder why Steric (maker of staminade) would change
the name? Is it trendy to call glucose dextrose or something?

Not a wizzard on this chemistry stuff but from the site above:
"Hydrol. Mother liquor left by crystallisation of dextrose from glucose
syrup" and " Glucose. Glucose is a monosaccharide, C6H12O6 existing as a
- and ß-glucose with an optical rotation of +105.2o respectively +20,3o.
The synonym dextrose refers to the positive direction of rotation
(dextra = right)"

So from that I gather that glucose syrup with the hydrol removed is
dextrose. I have no idea what food value hydrol has.
Looks as if dextrose is powder and glucose can be liquid or powder.
Are we confused yet.

Heh, I did a number of chemistry subjects at Uni, but I don't recall
there being any interesting ways to organise glucose - it's a very
simple molecule and not really subject to any isomer issues with
rotation (it's not Thalidomide!). It's just a straight chain, all it
can do is twist, but it still stays the same :


Then again ... have a look at this site :

http://www.herts.ac.uk/natsci/Bio/sc...cose/notes.htm


Hrm!

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:57:46 +1000, cfsmtb
wrote:


PS. Monteiths Black seriously rocks. Dark, mysterious, the perfect
winter beer.

Is that code for Guinness?

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:42:25 +1000, Carl Brewer
wrote:


Then again ... have a look at this site :

http://www.herts.ac.uk/natsci/Bio/sc...cose/notes.htm



and this one is clearer :

http://www.biotopics.co.uk/as/glucose2.html