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Home The M.O. Archives 2008 February 04 Entry
Lance Armstrong loses his cool (Band of Horses does not) By Matthew Odam | Monday, February 4, 2008, 01:18 PM After watching the Super Bowl at an incredible party (thank you, John and Mandy), I was fortunate enough to grab a ticket (thank you, Sarah) and a ride (thank you, Blake and Peter) to the sold-out Band of Horses show at La Zona Rosa. I was not planning to write up the show, but after a strong performance, and an even more interesting post-show experience, I felt compelled. I, like many of my friends, have been underwhelmed by the poor and inconsistent sound at La Zona Rosa, but last night's show may have been one of the best shows I have seen there in terms of the sound design. On the heels of their 2006 debut, 'Everything All the Time,' received top 10 mentions across the country, Band of Horses released their second album last year, 'Cease to Begin,' a strong showing but one that lacks the emotional force and hooks of the debut. The band, however, leaned heavily on 'Everything All the Time' early Sunday night, opening with three songs from the first album, before playing some new tunes and covering J.J. Cale's 'Thirteen Days.' The overwhelmingly enthusiastic response to the set's opening tunes prompted Horses frontman Ben Bridwell to proclaim that the Austin audience was the best of their tour. Although many of the band members have come to play with Bridwell in just the past year, the band had a chemistry and tightness that belied their nascent formation. Beyond being astounded that I could hear each of the (at times) four guitars, as well as the keyboard player -- who looked like Bridwell plucked him from the Charlie Daniels Band -- I was most impressed with Bridwell's vocal range. Going into the show I was curious as to whether his delicate yet powerful melodies would translate out of the studio to the stage. The answer quite simply was the realization that the singer from South Carolina has one of the best voices in the business. OK, now back to the headline. (Talk about burying the lede. And now, excuse me, as I go minor-celebrity-reporter on you for a second.) After the show, people were gathered at the adjacent Backstage Bar, drinking beers, talking about the show, and catching glimpses of and brief words with the band. Seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong, who had been at the concert with a couple of buddies, took leave of the bar around 1 a.m. and apparently forgot that it is illegal to take drinks from the club out to the streets. Backstage door man Sean Higgins, obviously not concerned with the celebrity of the person who was breaking the law, quickly ran over to Armstrong and his pal and rather forcefully made it clear that the guys could not walk off with drinks. Armstrong at first seemed surprised and briefly cordial, but that soon gave way to fierce indignation. Having taken the drinks from Armstrong and friend, Higgins returned to his post at the door. But, possibly due to being called out in front of a few dozen people, Armstrong, apparently having taken exception to the manner in which Higgins was performing his job, would not go quietly into that good night. He returned to the door, full of sound and fury. Higgins, who has worked at the Backstage Bar for four-and-a-half years, made it quite clear that he had no interest in Armstrong's celebrity or defense of his actions. Armstrong, not willing to drop the issue, flailingly tried to retake whatever sense of pride he apparently felt was taken from him, by berating Higgins while his friends stood at his side. With a finger that came inches from Higgins' face, Armstrong, according to Higgins, let loose a series of threats that concluded with the time-worn threat of "You'll never work at this bar again." Higgins, who apparently didn't get the memo that nobody puts Lance in the corner, scoffed at the irate Armstrong, who then left to a series of under-breath cat calls and one patron labeling Armstrong as overrated (the cleanest of the insults softly launched his way.) Bizarre end to an excellent night. I'm sure Higgins is on Career Builder as I type. (Not really.) A note of clarification: Although I thought I made the point clear already, I will say that I think Armstrong's aggravation came from the way he felt he was treated. It is (and was) his right to express displeasure, it was the manner in which he did it that drew the attention. UPDATE - Lance Armstrong responds I recently got off the phone with a friendly and apologetic Armstrong, who called to discuss the events of last night. Armstrong says that he was mostly shocked by the way in which Higgins originally approached him, but was contrite in admitting that he was in the wrong for the way in which he overreacted. "Listen, I was totally out of line," Armstrong said. Although Armstrong says he was in the wrong, he felt that the door man in question could have handled the situation better, as well. "You know, give us a warning. He walked over and nearly tackled us as if he had warned us four or five times. He was so aggressive without any warning. Believe me, man, if somebody says, 'You can not take these beers out of here,' I'll just throw them away or go back inside. I've got no problem with that. I wasn't looking for any special rules or treatment." Armstrong confessed that despite feeling he wasn't given any warning before being confronted, he should have responded differently. "I don't need to do that (respond the way he did), though. Two wrongs don't make a right." Permalink | Comments (76) | Post your comment Categories: Misc. Comments Click here to report comment abuse. By By non-cyclist February 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this I totally agree with "Cyclist". Because he is capable of riding a bike, it makes him so brilliant and smart that the politicians want him - how original! Oh yeah, and I almost forgot, he is the only person in the entire world who ever overcame cancer. That makes him even more a celebrity. Guess I could go on that his wife and kiddies put up with him through the non-so-famous years, then I guess they just held him back for his future gigs once he became so incredibly famous from being able to ride a bike and overcome cancer. See, thats the explanation for the scene at the bar. He's better. By Flat Tire February 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this It's not the first time and surely not the last time that Lance has fluffed up his tail feathers and thrown out his chest and acted like a big spoiled crybaby who didn't get his way? Lance - We like seeing you in the vacinity of your buddy Matthew. Oh wait..we just like seeing your buddy Matthew. Who are you again? By no thank you February 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this lance, you do not impress us. never have. never will. oh, and thanks for ruining hamilton pool. you're a really cool guy all around. By Laws for all of us February 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this Maybe - just - maybe justice was served. The guy puts his pants on the same way as the rest of us do. It maybe time that he (lance) looks into, "Do I have a Drinking Problem", maybe Amy Winehouse, needs to get together with him and look into it. Big-shotism, that is what Lance suffers from. Many have over come difficulties in our lives, we don't get to go around and belittle others when we are then treated like the rest of the world. By Tavo February 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this Roid rage? By sajid sanchez February 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this I am not suprised that he pulled his "celebrity card" again. I was a huge fan of his until we met him and he tried get with my friends sister, unsuccessful, and started with his "I'm Lance Armstrong crusade." Cure Cancer Lance and I'll be a fan of yours again. By Austin hates success February 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this The bouncer was trying to get a reaction by the snotty remark about saying he didn't care how many Tours Lance won right off the bat. Typical Austin mentality, tear down others to make yourself feel better. Maybe Lance genuinely forgot that he couldn't take a drink out? The bouncer, like so many others here, couldn't pass up an opportunity to insult someone who actually accomplished something great in their life, while he is just a bouncer. Lance sounds like he over reacted, but he didn't deserve to be treated that way. By Genie February 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this Is Higgins French? By Henry Higgins February 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this Give us real celebrities By Werent' you somebody once February 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this Lance had a similiar run in with a poor slob that deigned to actually use part of the road Lance was biking on some years ago. But then, "Bad Lance" was not well known as he is now so that guy went to jail. "All fame is fleeting" Lance. You're just one American Tour de France winnner from oblivion...just like the guy who got shot and then won the Tour....what was his name? By Christine Rose February 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this "Talk about burying the lede..." should that be "lead," rather than "lede?" the Statesman level of copy editing is extraordinarily low and has worsened significantly in recent months. By Matthew Odam February 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this FYI, folks: I can not approve your comments that have cuss words in them, regardless of how clever they are. By thad February 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this "lede" is actually correct. It is a journalistic term and is spelled differently than "lead". By Sam Armstrong February 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this Lead and lede are pretty much interchangeable. But let me tell you this - if it HAD been a misspelling, I would have TOTALLY lost all context, gotten confused and probably would have demanded my money back. By Jack February 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this No Christine. It's lede, look it up. By Ricky February 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this Thats Sad that Lance must act like that. Do you know who I am. Most people know who Lance is and what he has done, but that should not get him a free pass. I actually know Sean, who was like a big brother to me when I was growing up. He is an exellent person and glad to hear he kept his cool considering Armstrong was acting a fool. Sean could have easily wrapped Lance up like a handle bar on his 10 speed before Lance could have even realised that pointing a finger is not very cordial. Way to go Sean !!! By Brett February 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this Maybe he was just being drunk and obnoxious? Is he not allowed to be drunk and obnoxious every once in awhile? By Geezhus February 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this C'mon M.O, can't you just add in a few of those f&c#@ng symbols for us? By Howdy Dooty February 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this To all those blasting the door man. I would like to point out that the door man was totally in his right to grab those drinks however he needed to handle it. A person walking out of a TABC licensed bar with drink in hand can result in high fines for the venue and/or, the venue getting shut down/losing their permit to sell alcohol. Lance was in the wrong, and could have gone to jail for public disturbance/drunk in public. Bottom line, whoever you are, it's not cool to try to make someone feel lesser than you just because of your status or celebrity. I would suggest to Lance he grow up. By bearejay February 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this "Lede" is correct. The NYT has a blog called The Lede and gives this explanation: In the news business, the opening sentences of a story are referred to as its "lede" -- spelled that way, journalism lore has it, to avoid confusion with the lead typesetting that once dominated newspaper printing presses. Why so anti-Lance people? I imagine most people have acted like a jerk after a few drinks at some point in their lives. Most of us have the advantage of not having it reported in the newspaper. I don't see this as a good reason to tear him and his accomplishments apart. By Egos Maniac February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this I worked the door at a bar on south congress for a few years before it's recent transformation. i can assure you that if the TABC had been there, Sean would have lost his job. Period. They don't care who is involved. Unless Lance is willing to support Sean and pay his bills, he needs to do what the people who work in these bars ask him to do or move to Dallas where more people will be impressed with him. By to austin hates success February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this "Maybe Lance genuinely forgot that he couldn't take a drink out?" Seriously? Do you drink? I have never met a person who has genuinely forgot they can not take alcohol on public streets in Austin, unless they were wasted. I am sure Lance goes out on a regular basis like the rest of us. He is just living the dream. By rach February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this it's too bad that lance, being a great athelete and cancer surviving role model that he is, has to represent himself so poorly. he's lived in austin long enough to know that we don't get star struck or give star treatment to anyone. that's what makes this town so awesome. equality, baby. By Marie February 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this Lance you better watch out and remember the bigger they are the harder they fall. If you think you are so big you better watch out for that sudden stop!!! By Mike February 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this Maybe he'll get cancer again. By barfly February 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this Lance owns the bar called "Six". unlikely that he doesn't know the rules. By Nate February 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this I am just guessing here, but I don't think Higgins intended to put down Armstrong by saying he didn't care about how many Tours he'd won. I think he was stating requirements under TABC and local law enforcement. It does not matter if the guy is Rick Perry or Kinky Friedman. Taking an alcoholic beverage outside of a venue, meaning open street or totally off the premises, is breaking the law. It could cost the bar their liquor license or result in a suspension/fine. Others could be arrested. Higgins was trying to keep himself out of jail, as well as Lance...open container laws, eh? By TommyR February 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this A good door man/bouncer is discreet, polite, and expert at defusing situations. A good door man/bouncer plays the situation as your friend who is doing you a favor. This is unless you want to create a commotion and lose customers. Seems like Higgins "forcefully made it clear" otherwise. By Darren February 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this "who like he Bridwell stole him from the Charlie Daniels Band" this is a grammatical gem... By Flat Tire February 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this THANK YOU for not letting a obnoxious guy get away with breaking the law just because of his celebrity status. The door man/bouncer was doing his job. Now perhaps Lance should do HIS. HE wants to be this celebrity who's admired and respected. Then give us something to respect. By DK February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this I hear a lot of people complain about the sound at La Zona Rosa. It really is a black and white concert venue. If you are to the right side of the pillars, the sound is consistently exceptional. It's only when you are to the left of the pillars that the sound quality dramatically drops. My guess is that most of the people who say they don't like the sound are standing off to that left side. By Debbie February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this Life is short.Treat others as you want to be treated.I just want to say"Thanks to Lance for all his fund raising for people with cancer. I count myself lucky to be here too. By frenchkiss February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this The real stupper is the writer of the article. The isn't news or even interesting commentary. But no news is no news. Lance did good and we are jealous. I considering deleting this page. fK By frenchkiss February 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this The real stupper is the writer of the article. The isn't news or even interesting commentary. But no news is no news. Lance did good and we are jealous. I'm considering deleting this page. fK By Natalie February 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this I commend Lance on all of his accomplishments... But for those of you who are saying " When your drunk, everyone has a right to forget that you can't take drinks out of a bar" Where are you from, New Orleans? You can not take drinks out of a bar in Austin and even when I have been very intoxicated I did not forget that. Remember Lance, It's not football season and you are not tailgating! And winning the tour de france and beating cancer does not get you out of jail and it certainly does not allow you to be disrespectful to local Austinites. By elvislives February 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this Frenchkiss, seriously? This a not-newsworthy article yet it inspired a comment from you? Allow me to take the time to let you know that I will no longer take the time. Furthermore, I will make an outlandish comment calling for the deletion an internet page. You know, because I am the page editor of the internets and this is just another example of tube clogging, not-newsworthy journalism. Just enjoy the read or move on. The show rocked, sound quality much better at LZR than purported by others and a local celeb made a fool of himself. That's newsworthy to me. By Lawrence February 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this How shockingly irresponsible to report on second-hand "hearsay" reports about a non-story from unreliable sources. Go back to reporting for People magazine. Fortunately, losers like me who take the time to post comments have little affect on the world, and the majority of comments on this complete non-story shows only that losers who post on the Internet generally have nothing better to do than artificially elevate themselves by condescendingly, self-righteously, and wholly- anonymously telling a celebrity how to live their lives. Has anyone here ever been confronted by a jacka$$ bouncer? Is it POSSIBLE that Lance took umbridge to the way in which the bouncer took the drink, not the mere fact that he took it? And even if Lance was a jerk, I wonder how any of these posters would look if they had their lives recorded under a microscope. Yes, he should have shrugged it off, but even taking this report at face value is no big deal. Really a non- story. By JustWondering February 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this Lawrence: Lance, is that you? Didn't anonymously bumping yourself go out with MacKay's blunder? By Vance Vader February 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this Lance, No one gives a crap WHO you are. And oh yeah, don't drink and ride your bike. By Roger Clemens February 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this Why you guys giving Lance such a hard time? Sometimes after I eat a bunch of HEB beef and then get a needle of vitamin B I GO CRAZY!!!! Like in a total rage. That stuff just happens. By telluride February 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this I remember when 6th Street clubs used to give you cups to pour your beer into and take with you. Times have changed. Regardless, agreed the bouncer made a snoddy remark, but Lance overreacted. By lancealot February 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this FrenchKISS you rock. DELETE! SLaL By robert tillotson February 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this I too was there and witnessed it..this was not that big of a deal....people walk around with beers all of the time..look at some of the homeless people...that bar gets people loaded on yeager shots every night, do not make this a big deal folks. By the way, this was one of the better shows in a long while...download them soon, you will be happy, great road tripping music! You do not bust Willie for pot and you do not bust Lance for a cold beer! Find a better cause to report folks! By FBA February 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this Vote french kiss for membership into vegan entourage. I walk out of bars with my drink all the time; what's the big deal, I paid for it, it's mine. So Lance got upset... he was drinking. Lance gives back to our community more than most and Lance is not over-rated (unlike Wayne Gretzky). Lance negativity is envy coupled with cheater pumpkin eater. You can't cheat on a bike race you can only cheat on taxes, your wife and presidential elections. By clarity February 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this FYI, Lance had nothing to do with the pollution at Hamilton Pool, that's related to upstream (poorly done) development. He was involved in the Dead Man's Hole debacle, which has since been cleaned up (at his expense). By Jim February 4, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this Just another reason we should not name bikeways or schools after living persons. Memo to council--can we get a new name for the bikeway. By Donald February 4, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this Using words from New York City in Austin? Oh my, oh my!!! If Lance was in NYC no one would ever have heard of this and the dumb bouncer probably wouldn´t have known enough to reference the 7 TdF wins. Lance should get to a decent sized town quickly and it´ll be Austin´s lose! By David February 4, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this Lance you are from Texas. Nobody should have to tell you that it is illegal to leave leave the bar with drink in hand. The fact that you felt you could is evidence enough. How many times have any of you been at a bar and thought you could leave with a drink? There is no doubt you have accomplished great things Lance. But this is a p*ick move! By bevo not February 4, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this The guy represents the typical me-first, me-important mentality of most people with a little money, a little fame. It's certainly not the first time it's been seen. That's why it's so disgusting to see people worship his being as much as they do. By MC February 4, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this You have to give Armstrong a lot of credit for owning up to his overreaction. He could've sent his reps to spin it like the bouncer was a total jerk, but he didn't. To me, he comes off as a totally imperfect standup guy, By otromundo February 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this I'm with TommyR who said "A good door man/bouncer plays the situation as your friend who is doing you a favor." Instead too many play out their little power trip fantasies. Lance responded the same way many of us respond to obnoxious people, at a bar or otherwise. The difference is precisely because of Lance's celebrity he's milked the next day for someone's low-rent gossip column. Elevate. By Mammo February 4, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this I probably would have gotten upset, too. I've come across too many bouncers on a power trip to think this is just a case of a celebrity throwing a sanctimonious fit. Sounds like both of them needed to get over themselves. By By: Jeff February 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this I have know Sean for a long time. He is like a brother to me. I think Lance was out of line. Lance acts like this is the first time he's ever been to Austin or that he's never been in the downtown night scene. Lance, you're supposed to be a role model but you're not setting a good example for others. You know the rules and should abide by them like every one else has to. I also don't think you should have gone back making threats. You should have just left. Grow up, Lance. I applaude you, Sean. You did the right thing. Keep it up brother. By E. M. February 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this Of course Armstrong blames it on Higgins. I highly doubt Higgins was forceful in merely telling him no alcohol outside the bar. Typical Lance he thinks he's above it all. I have to wonder if you were asked to insert your last paragraph. Make no mistake about it - Armstrong is only sorry he was seen as being the egomaniac and narcissist he is. He's sorry but it was Higgins' fault that he acted that way. You may have money and fame Lance Armstrong but you're a joke and money won't buy you any class. Dan Coyle (Armstrong's War) and David Walsh (From Lance to Landis) had your number a loooong time ago. By La Raza February 4, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this Hey everybody!! Get a life!! By word on the street February 4, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this there sure are a lot of stories about lance throwing spoiled hissy fits in public. makes one wonder why? if he was a really nice guy, wouldn't there be more stories about that? By Betsy February 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this one word: LOSER By dbag February 4, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this everyone living in Austin has a "Lance is a dirt bag who hit on my daughter-sister-girlfriend-mom" story. Dude needs to grow up. I thought he was "Spending more time with his kids"? By JGM February 4, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this I was at a silent benefit auction recently, and a signed jersey of Lance's was up for bid. The auction lasted 4 hours, and his jersey garnered a total of 0 bids. On the other hand a day at a local spa went for 1,000 bucks. I myself got a nice signed Kevin Durant ball for $500. Point of story. NO ONE CARES ABOUT LANCE. HE IS SO OVER. By jlm February 4, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this Guys with real celebrity and power never really have to use it. Threatening a door man doing his job is pretty low class and shows a huge level of insecurity. Lance, man, you were the MAN! Now be a big man and stop leaving bruises on your adoring public. Get a grip on your potential and live up to it, ddude, cause you are breaking a whole lot of hearts. Take stock of your life and live it like the champion you were on a bike. Hey, Lance, you are now off the bike, so it is time to get it together and make the next couple of acts in your life --- world class. Go apologize to that door man and show the world that you really still area champion. By Dave February 4, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Both parties were at fault and neither was a good role model for their trade that night. By MCH February 4, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this So I open my mail box and I get this months Texas Monthly. I look at the cover and there is his Lanceness with the words "The Future" in big florescent red block letters..... you can't blame the guy for being a little conceited. By richard February 4, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this Lance and his little ego is bigger than his cycling in France. I don't care for Lance and his cause. I don't support him in any way and I did vote against his cancer bill. Lance go home we do not need you as much as you think. By rafa February 4, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this Yo what's up with all the Lance bashing? First of all the guy admitted he was also wrong, and if he weren't a celebrity we wouldn't even know about this story. It sounds like the door guy was fronting too, which hardly bodes well for the club. Second of all, and most importantly, Lance Armstrong has done alot of good for alot of people. He's given, and continues to give more than most, and he doesn't have to. And frankly there are many people who give nothing-perhaps some of you reading this comment, or whom have written previously. You don't need money to offer your services either. So please take it easy on the guy, and chill. Lest you look foolish yourselves By Michael February 5, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this Sorry Lance, No BYE on this one. You know the Rules, Everyone old enough to drink has probably tried and been warned about taking drinks outside the door. IF at your age, you've still not received that warning a few dozen times, then you've truly lived a charmed life. By Helen February 5, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this Great report -- and it got picked up on frontburner, Dallas' best-read blog -- but why the italicized postscript? Did Lance get mad at you, too? Tell, tell. By Matthew Rampage February 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this Lance is on the radio with Dudley abd Bob right now spilling his side of the beans. By Ames Tiedeman February 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this Look, these things happen. All will be forgotten. This is just a bit of life. This is just a bit of Austin, Texas! Lance is a great hero. I am not going to pass judgement on him or Higgins. Higgins obviously does his job well. Life would be too boring if everyone was perfect 100% of the time. Be good, Ames F. Tiedeman By AGuyinAustin February 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this I think it's so very easy to tear down when one doesn't know all the facts and forgets that people are people, regardless of celebrity, income, or accomplishments. To read the comments above - the majority simply vicious and catty - does not reflect the Austin I know and love. I've been there, done that in similar situations and am thankful that, like most of you, I'm not being villified the following morning or having to write a public apology. Regardless of what you think of this incident, my take is Lance is a solid representative of Austin and even more importantly the cancer community. Oh, and he manned up about this afterwards, too. By Edward February 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this Manning up would be apologizing to the door guy, not the guy that happened to report it. By Mimi February 5, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this I have a close friend who works in the sports media... in deference to her professionalism, I won't identify her or her national broadcast network. She's experienced a couple run ins with Armstrong and heard about other incidents, where he tries to blatantly "use' his celebrity to his personal advantage. She personally discovered he can be a very unpleasant person when he's out of the spotlight and drinking. At other times, he's just your run of the mill SOB with an overblown sense of entitlement. By marcus February 5, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this Note to self: do not read #%$@*&!! By flasky February 5, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this Wow. On my four (to date) visits to Austin, I had been fooled into thinking it was an oasis of rational thought. Thanks for dispelling that notion. You're just as petty and ignorant as the rest of Texas. I'd like to see some of you ride 20 miles, not to mention 2000-plus over three weeks. Go do something significant so you can move out of your parents' basements. Oh- and the sound at LZR DOES suck. By Seerbeer February 5, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this At One in the morning, it's the booze talking. The old ego-protective mechanisms work overtime. Social inhibitions are down. In the morning, that's when the self-disgust kicks in and requires an amends. If it happens regularly, the answer can be found within the walls of AA meetings. If it's only an occasional blunder, it only deserves forgetting by all concerned. Blessings All By lulu February 5, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this lance licking is gross. he's bad a*s in his field: cycling. parenting, public behavior, social responsiblility, drug awareness.....who knows? he clearly struts expecting a free pass because "we" gave him the lance love. that he thinks he can be a politician is/was insane until we elected "W". now give him a break. yes, the door man is tabc "golden". la zona should give him a raise. they'd be sued big-time if lance crashed his cycling frame. but door guy probably was an a*s, and so was lance. let's call it a draw of entitlement. wake up call to all narcissists! By Mister Me February 6, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this Wow! There's a lot of Lance haters out there. I came to this site to check out a Band of Horses show review and ended up wading through a lot of stupid crap. Do we really care if Lance Armstrong tried to walk out of a club with a drink? I mean that stupid "event" got more attention then the real show. Band of Horses rocked! Oh, and Flasky, if you think that by making four trips to Austin and reading a blog you can generalize Austin as being "petty and ignorant" then you, my friend, are an idiot. Please don't come back! |
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Home The M.O. Archives 2008 February 04 Entry Lance Armstrong loses his cool (Band of Horses does not) By Matthew Odam | Monday, February 4, 2008, 01:18 PM After watching the Super Bowl at an incredible party (thank you, John and Mandy), I was fortunate enough to grab a ticket (thank you, Sarah) and a ride (thank you, Blake and Peter) to the sold-out Band of Horses show at La Zona Rosa. I was not planning to write up the show, but after a strong performance, and an even more interesting post-show experience, I felt compelled. I, like many of my friends, have been underwhelmed by the poor and inconsistent sound at La Zona Rosa, but last night's show may have been one of the best shows I have seen there in terms of the sound design. On the heels of their 2006 debut, 'Everything All the Time,' received top 10 mentions across the country, Band of Horses released their second album last year, 'Cease to Begin,' a strong showing but one that lacks the emotional force and hooks of the debut. The band, however, leaned heavily on 'Everything All the Time' early Sunday night, opening with three songs from the first album, before playing some new tunes and covering J.J. Cale's 'Thirteen Days.' The overwhelmingly enthusiastic response to the set's opening tunes prompted Horses frontman Ben Bridwell to proclaim that the Austin audience was the best of their tour. Although many of the band members have come to play with Bridwell in just the past year, the band had a chemistry and tightness that belied their nascent formation. Beyond being astounded that I could hear each of the (at times) four guitars, as well as the keyboard player -- who looked like Bridwell plucked him from the Charlie Daniels Band -- I was most impressed with Bridwell's vocal range. Going into the show I was curious as to whether his delicate yet powerful melodies would translate out of the studio to the stage. The answer quite simply was the realization that the singer from South Carolina has one of the best voices in the business. OK, now back to the headline. (Talk about burying the lede. And now, excuse me, as I go minor-celebrity-reporter on you for a second.) After the show, people were gathered at the adjacent Backstage Bar, drinking beers, talking about the show, and catching glimpses of and brief words with the band. Seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong, who had been at the concert with a couple of buddies, took leave of the bar around 1 a.m. and apparently forgot that it is illegal to take drinks from the club out to the streets. Backstage door man Sean Higgins, obviously not concerned with the celebrity of the person who was breaking the law, quickly ran over to Armstrong and his pal and rather forcefully made it clear that the guys could not walk off with drinks. Armstrong at first seemed surprised and briefly cordial, but that soon gave way to fierce indignation. Having taken the drinks from Armstrong and friend, Higgins returned to his post at the door. But, possibly due to being called out in front of a few dozen people, Armstrong, apparently having taken exception to the manner in which Higgins was performing his job, would not go quietly into that good night. He returned to the door, full of sound and fury. Higgins, who has worked at the Backstage Bar for four-and-a-half years, made it quite clear that he had no interest in Armstrong's celebrity or defense of his actions. Armstrong, not willing to drop the issue, flailingly tried to retake whatever sense of pride he apparently felt was taken from him, by berating Higgins while his friends stood at his side. With a finger that came inches from Higgins' face, Armstrong, according to Higgins, let loose a series of threats that concluded with the time-worn threat of "You'll never work at this bar again." Higgins, who apparently didn't get the memo that nobody puts Lance in the corner, scoffed at the irate Armstrong, who then left to a series of under-breath cat calls and one patron labeling Armstrong as overrated (the cleanest of the insults softly launched his way.) Bizarre end to an excellent night. I'm sure Higgins is on Career Builder as I type. (Not really.) A note of clarification: Although I thought I made the point clear already, I will say that I think Armstrong's aggravation came from the way he felt he was treated. It is (and was) his right to express displeasure, it was the manner in which he did it that drew the attention. UPDATE - Lance Armstrong responds I recently got off the phone with a friendly and apologetic Armstrong, who called to discuss the events of last night. Armstrong says that he was mostly shocked by the way in which Higgins originally approached him, but was contrite in admitting that he was in the wrong for the way in which he overreacted. "Listen, I was totally out of line," Armstrong said. Although Armstrong says he was in the wrong, he felt that the door man in question could have handled the situation better, as well. "You know, give us a warning. He walked over and nearly tackled us as if he had warned us four or five times. He was so aggressive without any warning. Believe me, man, if somebody says, 'You can not take these beers out of here,' I'll just throw them away or go back inside. I've got no problem with that. I wasn't looking for any special rules or treatment." Armstrong confessed that despite feeling he wasn't given any warning before being confronted, he should have responded differently. "I don't need to do that (respond the way he did), though. Two wrongs don't make a right." Permalink | Comments (76) | Post your comment Categories: Misc. Comments Click here to report comment abuse. By By non-cyclist February 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this I totally agree with "Cyclist". Because he is capable of riding a bike, it makes him so brilliant and smart that the politicians want him - how original! Oh yeah, and I almost forgot, he is the only person in the entire world who ever overcame cancer. That makes him even more a celebrity. Guess I could go on that his wife and kiddies put up with him through the non-so-famous years, then I guess they just held him back for his future gigs once he became so incredibly famous from being able to ride a bike and overcome cancer. See, thats the explanation for the scene at the bar. He's better. By Flat Tire February 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this It's not the first time and surely not the last time that Lance has fluffed up his tail feathers and thrown out his chest and acted like a big spoiled crybaby who didn't get his way? Lance - We like seeing you in the vacinity of your buddy Matthew. Oh wait..we just like seeing your buddy Matthew. Who are you again? By no thank you February 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this lance, you do not impress us. never have. never will. oh, and thanks for ruining hamilton pool. you're a really cool guy all around. By Laws for all of us February 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this Maybe - just - maybe justice was served. The guy puts his pants on the same way as the rest of us do. It maybe time that he (lance) looks into, "Do I have a Drinking Problem", maybe Amy Winehouse, needs to get together with him and look into it. Big-shotism, that is what Lance suffers from. Many have over come difficulties in our lives, we don't get to go around and belittle others when we are then treated like the rest of the world. By Tavo February 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this Roid rage? By sajid sanchez February 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this I am not suprised that he pulled his "celebrity card" again. I was a huge fan of his until we met him and he tried get with my friends sister, unsuccessful, and started with his "I'm Lance Armstrong crusade." Cure Cancer Lance and I'll be a fan of yours again. By Austin hates success February 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this The bouncer was trying to get a reaction by the snotty remark about saying he didn't care how many Tours Lance won right off the bat. Typical Austin mentality, tear down others to make yourself feel better. Maybe Lance genuinely forgot that he couldn't take a drink out? The bouncer, like so many others here, couldn't pass up an opportunity to insult someone who actually accomplished something great in their life, while he is just a bouncer. Lance sounds like he over reacted, but he didn't deserve to be treated that way. By Genie February 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this Is Higgins French? By Henry Higgins February 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this Give us real celebrities By Werent' you somebody once February 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this Lance had a similiar run in with a poor slob that deigned to actually use part of the road Lance was biking on some years ago. But then, "Bad Lance" was not well known as he is now so that guy went to jail. "All fame is fleeting" Lance. You're just one American Tour de France winnner from oblivion...just like the guy who got shot and then won the Tour....what was his name? By Christine Rose February 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this "Talk about burying the lede..." should that be "lead," rather than "lede?" the Statesman level of copy editing is extraordinarily low and has worsened significantly in recent months. By Matthew Odam February 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this FYI, folks: I can not approve your comments that have cuss words in them, regardless of how clever they are. By thad February 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this "lede" is actually correct. It is a journalistic term and is spelled differently than "lead". By Sam Armstrong February 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this Lead and lede are pretty much interchangeable. But let me tell you this - if it HAD been a misspelling, I would have TOTALLY lost all context, gotten confused and probably would have demanded my money back. By Jack February 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this No Christine. It's lede, look it up. By Ricky February 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this Thats Sad that Lance must act like that. Do you know who I am. Most people know who Lance is and what he has done, but that should not get him a free pass. I actually know Sean, who was like a big brother to me when I was growing up. He is an exellent person and glad to hear he kept his cool considering Armstrong was acting a fool. Sean could have easily wrapped Lance up like a handle bar on his 10 speed before Lance could have even realised that pointing a finger is not very cordial. Way to go Sean !!! By Brett February 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this Maybe he was just being drunk and obnoxious? Is he not allowed to be drunk and obnoxious every once in awhile? By Geezhus February 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this C'mon M.O, can't you just add in a few of those f&c#@ng symbols for us? By Howdy Dooty February 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this To all those blasting the door man. I would like to point out that the door man was totally in his right to grab those drinks however he needed to handle it. A person walking out of a TABC licensed bar with drink in hand can result in high fines for the venue and/or, the venue getting shut down/losing their permit to sell alcohol. Lance was in the wrong, and could have gone to jail for public disturbance/drunk in public. Bottom line, whoever you are, it's not cool to try to make someone feel lesser than you just because of your status or celebrity. I would suggest to Lance he grow up. By bearejay February 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this "Lede" is correct. The NYT has a blog called The Lede and gives this explanation: In the news business, the opening sentences of a story are referred to as its "lede" -- spelled that way, journalism lore has it, to avoid confusion with the lead typesetting that once dominated newspaper printing presses. Why so anti-Lance people? I imagine most people have acted like a jerk after a few drinks at some point in their lives. Most of us have the advantage of not having it reported in the newspaper. I don't see this as a good reason to tear him and his accomplishments apart. By Egos Maniac February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this I worked the door at a bar on south congress for a few years before it's recent transformation. i can assure you that if the TABC had been there, Sean would have lost his job. Period. They don't care who is involved. Unless Lance is willing to support Sean and pay his bills, he needs to do what the people who work in these bars ask him to do or move to Dallas where more people will be impressed with him. By to austin hates success February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this "Maybe Lance genuinely forgot that he couldn't take a drink out?" Seriously? Do you drink? I have never met a person who has genuinely forgot they can not take alcohol on public streets in Austin, unless they were wasted. I am sure Lance goes out on a regular basis like the rest of us. He is just living the dream. By rach February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this it's too bad that lance, being a great athelete and cancer surviving role model that he is, has to represent himself so poorly. he's lived in austin long enough to know that we don't get star struck or give star treatment to anyone. that's what makes this town so awesome. equality, baby. By Marie February 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this Lance you better watch out and remember the bigger they are the harder they fall. If you think you are so big you better watch out for that sudden stop!!! By Mike February 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this Maybe he'll get cancer again. By barfly February 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this Lance owns the bar called "Six". unlikely that he doesn't know the rules. By Nate February 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this I am just guessing here, but I don't think Higgins intended to put down Armstrong by saying he didn't care about how many Tours he'd won. I think he was stating requirements under TABC and local law enforcement. It does not matter if the guy is Rick Perry or Kinky Friedman. Taking an alcoholic beverage outside of a venue, meaning open street or totally off the premises, is breaking the law. It could cost the bar their liquor license or result in a suspension/fine. Others could be arrested. Higgins was trying to keep himself out of jail, as well as Lance...open container laws, eh? By TommyR February 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this A good door man/bouncer is discreet, polite, and expert at defusing situations. A good door man/bouncer plays the situation as your friend who is doing you a favor. This is unless you want to create a commotion and lose customers. Seems like Higgins "forcefully made it clear" otherwise. By Darren February 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this "who like he Bridwell stole him from the Charlie Daniels Band" this is a grammatical gem... By Flat Tire February 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this THANK YOU for not letting a obnoxious guy get away with breaking the law just because of his celebrity status. The door man/bouncer was doing his job. Now perhaps Lance should do HIS. HE wants to be this celebrity who's admired and respected. Then give us something to respect. By DK February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this I hear a lot of people complain about the sound at La Zona Rosa. It really is a black and white concert venue. If you are to the right side of the pillars, the sound is consistently exceptional. It's only when you are to the left of the pillars that the sound quality dramatically drops. My guess is that most of the people who say they don't like the sound are standing off to that left side. By Debbie February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this Life is short.Treat others as you want to be treated.I just want to say"Thanks to Lance for all his fund raising for people with cancer. I count myself lucky to be here too. By frenchkiss February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this The real stupper is the writer of the article. The isn't news or even interesting commentary. But no news is no news. Lance did good and we are jealous. I considering deleting this page. fK By frenchkiss February 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this The real stupper is the writer of the article. The isn't news or even interesting commentary. But no news is no news. Lance did good and we are jealous. I'm considering deleting this page. fK By Natalie February 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this I commend Lance on all of his accomplishments... But for those of you who are saying " When your drunk, everyone has a right to forget that you can't take drinks out of a bar" Where are you from, New Orleans? You can not take drinks out of a bar in Austin and even when I have been very intoxicated I did not forget that. Remember Lance, It's not football season and you are not tailgating! And winning the tour de france and beating cancer does not get you out of jail and it certainly does not allow you to be disrespectful to local Austinites. By elvislives February 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this Frenchkiss, seriously? This a not-newsworthy article yet it inspired a comment from you? Allow me to take the time to let you know that I will no longer take the time. Furthermore, I will make an outlandish comment calling for the deletion an internet page. You know, because I am the page editor of the internets and this is just another example of tube clogging, not-newsworthy journalism. Just enjoy the read or move on. The show rocked, sound quality much better at LZR than purported by others and a local celeb made a fool of himself. That's newsworthy to me. By Lawrence February 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this How shockingly irresponsible to report on second-hand "hearsay" reports about a non-story from unreliable sources. Go back to reporting for People magazine. Fortunately, losers like me who take the time to post comments have little affect on the world, and the majority of comments on this complete non-story shows only that losers who post on the Internet generally have nothing better to do than artificially elevate themselves by condescendingly, self-righteously, and wholly- anonymously telling a celebrity how to live their lives. Has anyone here ever been confronted by a jacka$$ bouncer? Is it POSSIBLE that Lance took umbridge to the way in which the bouncer took the drink, not the mere fact that he took it? And even if Lance was a jerk, I wonder how any of these posters would look if they had their lives recorded under a microscope. Yes, he should have shrugged it off, but even taking this report at face value is no big deal. Really a non- story. By JustWondering February 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this Lawrence: Lance, is that you? Didn't anonymously bumping yourself go out with MacKay's blunder? By Vance Vader February 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this Lance, No one gives a crap WHO you are. And oh yeah, don't drink and ride your bike. By Roger Clemens February 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this Why you guys giving Lance such a hard time? Sometimes after I eat a bunch of HEB beef and then get a needle of vitamin B I GO CRAZY!!!! Like in a total rage. That stuff just happens. By telluride February 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this I remember when 6th Street clubs used to give you cups to pour your beer into and take with you. Times have changed. Regardless, agreed the bouncer made a snoddy remark, but Lance overreacted. By lancealot February 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this FrenchKISS you rock. DELETE! SLaL By robert tillotson February 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this I too was there and witnessed it..this was not that big of a deal....people walk around with beers all of the time..look at some of the homeless people...that bar gets people loaded on yeager shots every night, do not make this a big deal folks. By the way, this was one of the better shows in a long while...download them soon, you will be happy, great road tripping music! You do not bust Willie for pot and you do not bust Lance for a cold beer! Find a better cause to report folks! By FBA February 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this Vote french kiss for membership into vegan entourage. I walk out of bars with my drink all the time; what's the big deal, I paid for it, it's mine. So Lance got upset... he was drinking. Lance gives back to our community more than most and Lance is not over-rated (unlike Wayne Gretzky). Lance negativity is envy coupled with cheater pumpkin eater. You can't cheat on a bike race you can only cheat on taxes, your wife and presidential elections. By clarity February 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this FYI, Lance had nothing to do with the pollution at Hamilton Pool, that's related to upstream (poorly done) development. He was involved in the Dead Man's Hole debacle, which has since been cleaned up (at his expense). By Jim February 4, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this Just another reason we should not name bikeways or schools after living persons. Memo to council--can we get a new name for the bikeway. By Donald February 4, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this Using words from New York City in Austin? Oh my, oh my!!! If Lance was in NYC no one would ever have heard of this and the dumb bouncer probably wouldn´t have known enough to reference the 7 TdF wins. Lance should get to a decent sized town quickly and it´ll be Austin´s lose! By David February 4, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this Lance you are from Texas. Nobody should have to tell you that it is illegal to leave leave the bar with drink in hand. The fact that you felt you could is evidence enough. How many times have any of you been at a bar and thought you could leave with a drink? There is no doubt you have accomplished great things Lance. But this is a p*ick move! By bevo not February 4, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this The guy represents the typical me-first, me-important mentality of most people with a little money, a little fame. It's certainly not the first time it's been seen. That's why it's so disgusting to see people worship his being as much as they do. By MC February 4, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this You have to give Armstrong a lot of credit for owning up to his overreaction. He could've sent his reps to spin it like the bouncer was a total jerk, but he didn't. To me, he comes off as a totally imperfect standup guy, By otromundo February 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this I'm with TommyR who said "A good door man/bouncer plays the situation as your friend who is doing you a favor." Instead too many play out their little power trip fantasies. Lance responded the same way many of us respond to obnoxious people, at a bar or otherwise. The difference is precisely because of Lance's celebrity he's milked the next day for someone's low-rent gossip column. Elevate. By Mammo February 4, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this I probably would have gotten upset, too. I've come across too many bouncers on a power trip to think this is just a case of a celebrity throwing a sanctimonious fit. Sounds like both of them needed to get over themselves. By By: Jeff February 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this I have know Sean for a long time. He is like a brother to me. I think Lance was out of line. Lance acts like this is the first time he's ever been to Austin or that he's never been in the downtown night scene. Lance, you're supposed to be a role model but you're not setting a good example for others. You know the rules and should abide by them like every one else has to. I also don't think you should have gone back making threats. You should have just left. Grow up, Lance. I applaude you, Sean. You did the right thing. Keep it up brother. By E. M. February 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this Of course Armstrong blames it on Higgins. I highly doubt Higgins was forceful in merely telling him no alcohol outside the bar. Typical Lance he thinks he's above it all. I have to wonder if you were asked to insert your last paragraph. Make no mistake about it - Armstrong is only sorry he was seen as being the egomaniac and narcissist he is. He's sorry but it was Higgins' fault that he acted that way. You may have money and fame Lance Armstrong but you're a joke and money won't buy you any class. Dan Coyle (Armstrong's War) and David Walsh (From Lance to Landis) had your number a loooong time ago. By La Raza February 4, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this Hey everybody!! Get a life!! By word on the street February 4, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this there sure are a lot of stories about lance throwing spoiled hissy fits in public. makes one wonder why? if he was a really nice guy, wouldn't there be more stories about that? By Betsy February 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this one word: LOSER By dbag February 4, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this everyone living in Austin has a "Lance is a dirt bag who hit on my daughter-sister-girlfriend-mom" story. Dude needs to grow up. I thought he was "Spending more time with his kids"? By JGM February 4, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this I was at a silent benefit auction recently, and a signed jersey of Lance's was up for bid. The auction lasted 4 hours, and his jersey garnered a total of 0 bids. On the other hand a day at a local spa went for 1,000 bucks. I myself got a nice signed Kevin Durant ball for $500. Point of story. NO ONE CARES ABOUT LANCE. HE IS SO OVER. By jlm February 4, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this Guys with real celebrity and power never really have to use it. Threatening a door man doing his job is pretty low class and shows a huge level of insecurity. Lance, man, you were the MAN! Now be a big man and stop leaving bruises on your adoring public. Get a grip on your potential and live up to it, ddude, cause you are breaking a whole lot of hearts. Take stock of your life and live it like the champion you were on a bike. Hey, Lance, you are now off the bike, so it is time to get it together and make the next couple of acts in your life --- world class. Go apologize to that door man and show the world that you really still area champion. By Dave February 4, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Both parties were at fault and neither was a good role model for their trade that night. By MCH February 4, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this So I open my mail box and I get this months Texas Monthly. I look at the cover and there is his Lanceness with the words "The Future" in big florescent red block letters..... you can't blame the guy for being a little conceited. By richard February 4, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this Lance and his little ego is bigger than his cycling in France. I don't care for Lance and his cause. I don't support him in any way and I did vote against his cancer bill. Lance go home we do not need you as much as you think. By rafa February 4, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this Yo what's up with all the Lance bashing? First of all the guy admitted he was also wrong, and if he weren't a celebrity we wouldn't even know about this story. It sounds like the door guy was fronting too, which hardly bodes well for the club. Second of all, and most importantly, Lance Armstrong has done alot of good for alot of people. He's given, and continues to give more than most, and he doesn't have to. And frankly there are many people who give nothing-perhaps some of you reading this comment, or whom have written previously. You don't need money to offer your services either. So please take it easy on the guy, and chill. Lest you look foolish yourselves By Michael February 5, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this Sorry Lance, No BYE on this one. You know the Rules, Everyone old enough to drink has probably tried and been warned about taking drinks outside the door. IF at your age, you've still not received that warning a few dozen times, then you've truly lived a charmed life. By Helen February 5, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this Great report -- and it got picked up on frontburner, Dallas' best-read blog -- but why the italicized postscript? Did Lance get mad at you, too? Tell, tell. By Matthew Rampage February 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this Lance is on the radio with Dudley abd Bob right now spilling his side of the beans. By Ames Tiedeman February 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this Look, these things happen. All will be forgotten. This is just a bit of life. This is just a bit of Austin, Texas! Lance is a great hero. I am not going to pass judgement on him or Higgins. Higgins obviously does his job well. Life would be too boring if everyone was perfect 100% of the time. Be good, Ames F. Tiedeman By AGuyinAustin February 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this I think it's so very easy to tear down when one doesn't know all the facts and forgets that people are people, regardless of celebrity, income, or accomplishments. To read the comments above - the majority simply vicious and catty - does not reflect the Austin I know and love. I've been there, done that in similar situations and am thankful that, like most of you, I'm not being villified the following morning or having to write a public apology. Regardless of what you think of this incident, my take is Lance is a solid representative of Austin and even more importantly the cancer community. Oh, and he manned up about this afterwards, too. By Edward February 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this Manning up would be apologizing to the door guy, not the guy that happened to report it. By Mimi February 5, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this I have a close friend who works in the sports media... in deference to her professionalism, I won't identify her or her national broadcast network. She's experienced a couple run ins with Armstrong and heard about other incidents, where he tries to blatantly "use' his celebrity to his personal advantage. She personally discovered he can be a very unpleasant person when he's out of the spotlight and drinking. At other times, he's just your run of the mill SOB with an overblown sense of entitlement. By marcus February 5, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this Note to self: do not read #%$@*&!! By flasky February 5, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this Wow. On my four (to date) visits to Austin, I had been fooled into thinking it was an oasis of rational thought. Thanks for dispelling that notion. You're just as petty and ignorant as the rest of Texas. I'd like to see some of you ride 20 miles, not to mention 2000-plus over three weeks. Go do something significant so you can move out of your parents' basements. Oh- and the sound at LZR DOES suck. By Seerbeer February 5, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this At One in the morning, it's the booze talking. The old ego-protective mechanisms work overtime. Social inhibitions are down. In the morning, that's when the self-disgust kicks in and requires an amends. If it happens regularly, the answer can be found within the walls of AA meetings. If it's only an occasional blunder, it only deserves forgetting by all concerned. Blessings All By lulu February 5, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this lance licking is gross. he's bad a*s in his field: cycling. parenting, public behavior, social responsiblility, drug awareness.....who knows? he clearly struts expecting a free pass because "we" gave him the lance love. that he thinks he can be a politician is/was insane until we elected "W". now give him a break. yes, the door man is tabc "golden". la zona should give him a raise. they'd be sued big-time if lance crashed his cycling frame. but door guy probably was an a*s, and so was lance. let's call it a draw of entitlement. wake up call to all narcissists! By Mister Me February 6, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this Wow! There's a lot of Lance haters out there. I came to this site to check out a Band of Horses show review and ended up wading through a lot of stupid crap. Do we really care if Lance Armstrong tried to walk out of a club with a drink? I mean that stupid "event" got more attention then the real show. Band of Horses rocked! Oh, and Flasky, if you think that by making four trips to Austin and reading a blog you can generalize Austin as being "petty and ignorant" then you, my friend, are an idiot. Please don't come back! You need help. Serious psychological help. Its not healthy to obsess over someone for so long. I wish you the best in making something more of your pathetic life, sitting around in your boxers in your mother's basement, ragging on Lance. Best wishes in your recovery. Fred |
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On Feb 6, 9:53�pm, wrote: Home The M.O. Archives 2008 February 04 Entry Lance Armstrong loses his cool (Band of Horses does not) By Matthew Odam | Monday, February 4, 2008, 01:18 PM After watching the Super Bowl at an incredible party (thank you, John and Mandy), I was fortunate enough to grab a ticket (thank you, Sarah) and a ride (thank you, Blake and Peter) to the sold-out Band of Horses show at La Zona Rosa. I was not planning to write up the show, but after a strong performance, and an even more interesting post-show experience, I felt compelled. I, like many of my friends, have been underwhelmed by the poor and inconsistent sound at La Zona Rosa, but last night's show may have been one of the best shows I have seen there in terms of the sound design. On the heels of their 2006 debut, 'Everything All the Time,' received top 10 mentions across the country, Band of Horses released their second album last year, 'Cease to Begin,' a strong showing but one that lacks the emotional force and hooks of the debut. The band, however, leaned heavily on 'Everything All the Time' early Sunday night, opening with three songs from the first album, before playing some new tunes and covering J.J. Cale's 'Thirteen Days.' The overwhelmingly enthusiastic response to the set's opening tunes prompted Horses frontman Ben Bridwell to proclaim that the Austin audience was the best of their tour. Although many of the band members have come to play with Bridwell in just the past year, the band had a chemistry and tightness that belied their nascent formation. Beyond being astounded that I could hear each of the (at times) four guitars, as well as the keyboard player -- who looked like Bridwell plucked him from the Charlie Daniels Band -- I was most impressed with Bridwell's vocal range. Going into the show I was curious as to whether his delicate yet powerful melodies would translate out of the studio to the stage. The answer quite simply was the realization that the singer from South Carolina has one of the best voices in the business. OK, now back to the headline. (Talk about burying the lede. And now, excuse me, as I go minor-celebrity-reporter on you for a second.) After the show, people were gathered at the adjacent Backstage Bar, drinking beers, talking about the show, and catching glimpses of and brief words with the band. Seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong, who had been at the concert with a couple of buddies, took leave of the bar around 1 a.m. and apparently forgot that it is illegal to take drinks from the club out to the streets. Backstage door man Sean Higgins, obviously not concerned with the celebrity of the person who was breaking the law, quickly ran over to Armstrong and his pal and rather forcefully made it clear that the guys could not walk off with drinks. Armstrong at first seemed surprised and briefly cordial, but that soon gave way to fierce indignation. Having taken the drinks from Armstrong and friend, Higgins returned to his post at the door. But, possibly due to being called out in front of a few dozen people, Armstrong, apparently having taken exception to the manner in which Higgins was performing his job, would not go quietly into that good night. He returned to the door, full of sound and fury. Higgins, who has worked at the Backstage Bar for four-and-a-half years, made it quite clear that he had no interest in Armstrong's celebrity or defense of his actions. Armstrong, not willing to drop the issue, flailingly tried to retake whatever sense of pride he apparently felt was taken from him, by berating Higgins while his friends stood at his side. With a finger that came inches from Higgins' face, Armstrong, according to Higgins, let loose a series of threats that concluded with the time-worn threat of "You'll never work at this bar again." Higgins, who apparently didn't get the memo that nobody puts Lance in the corner, scoffed at the irate Armstrong, who then left to a series of under-breath cat calls and one patron labeling Armstrong as overrated (the cleanest of the insults softly launched his way.) Bizarre end to an excellent night. I'm sure Higgins is on Career Builder as I type. (Not really.) A note of clarification: Although I thought I made the point clear already, I will say that I think Armstrong's aggravation came from the way he felt he was treated. It is (and was) his right to express displeasure, it was the manner in which he did it that drew the attention. UPDATE - Lance Armstrong responds I recently got off the phone with a friendly and apologetic Armstrong, who called to discuss the events of last night. Armstrong says that he was mostly shocked by the way in which Higgins originally approached him, but was contrite in admitting that he was in the wrong for the way in which he overreacted. "Listen, I was totally out of line," Armstrong said. Although Armstrong says he was in the wrong, he felt that the door man in question could have handled the situation better, as well. "You know, give us a warning. He walked over and nearly tackled us as if he had warned us four or five times. He was so aggressive without any warning. Believe me, man, if somebody says, 'You can not take these beers out of here,' I'll just throw them away or go back inside. I've got no problem with that. I wasn't looking for any special rules or treatment." Armstrong confessed that despite feeling he wasn't given any warning before being confronted, he should have responded differently. "I don't need to do that (respond the way he did), though. Two wrongs don't make a right." Permalink | Comments (76) | Post your comment Categories: Misc. Comments Click here to report comment abuse. By By non-cyclist February 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this I totally agree with "Cyclist". Because he is capable of riding a bike, it makes him so brilliant and smart that the politicians want him - how original! Oh yeah, and I almost forgot, he is the only person in the entire world who ever overcame cancer. That makes him even more a celebrity. Guess I could go on that his wife and kiddies put up with him through the non-so-famous years, then I guess they just held him back for his future gigs once he became so incredibly famous from being able to ride a bike and overcome cancer. See, thats the explanation for the scene at the bar. He's better. By Flat Tire February 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this It's not the first time and surely not the last time that Lance has fluffed up his tail feathers and thrown out his chest and acted like a big spoiled crybaby who didn't get his way? Lance - We like seeing you in the vacinity of your buddy Matthew. Oh wait..we just like seeing your buddy Matthew. Who are you again? By no thank you February 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this lance, you do not impress us. never have. never will. oh, and thanks for ruining hamilton pool. you're a really cool guy all around. By Laws for all of us February 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this Maybe - just - maybe justice was served. The guy puts his pants on the same way as the rest of us do. It maybe time that he (lance) looks into, "Do I have a Drinking Problem", maybe Amy Winehouse, needs to get together with him and look into it. Big-shotism, that is what Lance suffers from. Many have over come difficulties in our lives, we don't get to go around and belittle others when we are then treated like the rest of the world. By Tavo February 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this Roid rage? By sajid sanchez February 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this I am not suprised that he pulled his "celebrity card" again. I was a huge fan of his until we met him and he tried get with my friends sister, unsuccessful, and started with his "I'm Lance Armstrong crusade." Cure Cancer Lance and I'll be a fan of yours again. By Austin hates success February 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this The bouncer was trying to get a reaction by the snotty remark about saying he didn't care how many Tours Lance won right off the bat. Typical Austin mentality, tear down others to make yourself feel better. Maybe Lance genuinely forgot that he couldn't take a drink out? The bouncer, like so many others here, couldn't pass up an opportunity to insult someone who actually accomplished something great in their life, while he is just a bouncer. Lance sounds like he over reacted, but he didn't deserve to be treated that way. By Genie February 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this Is Higgins French? By Henry Higgins February 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this Give us real celebrities By Werent' you somebody once February 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this Lance had a similiar run in with a poor slob that deigned to actually use part of the road Lance was biking on some years ago. But then, "Bad Lance" was not well known as he is now so that guy went to jail. "All fame is fleeting" Lance. You're just one American Tour de France winnner from oblivion...just like the guy who got shot and then won the Tour....what was his name? By Christine Rose February 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this "Talk about burying the lede..." should that be "lead," rather than "lede?" the Statesman level of copy editing is extraordinarily low and has worsened significantly in recent months. By Matthew Odam February 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this FYI, folks: I can not approve your comments that have cuss words in them, regardless of how clever they are. By thad February 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this "lede" is actually correct. It is a journalistic term and is spelled differently than "lead". By Sam Armstrong February 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this Lead and lede are pretty much interchangeable. But let me tell you this - if it HAD been a misspelling, I would have TOTALLY lost all context, gotten confused and probably would have demanded my money back. By Jack February 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this No Christine. It's lede, look it up. By Ricky February 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this Thats Sad that Lance must act like that. Do you know who I am. Most people know who Lance is and what he has done, but that should not get him a free pass. I actually know Sean, who was like a big brother to me when I was growing up. He is an exellent person and glad to hear he kept his cool considering Armstrong was acting a fool. Sean could have easily wrapped Lance up like a handle bar on his 10 speed before Lance could have even realised that pointing a finger is not very cordial. Way to go Sean !!! By Brett February 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this Maybe he was just being drunk and obnoxious? Is he not allowed to be drunk and obnoxious every once in awhile? By Geezhus February 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this C'mon M.O, can't you just add in a few of those f&c#@ng symbols for us? By Howdy Dooty February 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this To all those blasting the door man. I would like to point out that the door man was totally in his right to grab those drinks however he needed to handle it. A person walking out of a TABC licensed bar with drink in hand can result in high fines for the venue and/or, the venue getting shut down/losing their permit to sell alcohol. Lance was in the wrong, and could have gone to jail for public disturbance/drunk in public. Bottom line, whoever you are, it's not cool to try to make someone feel lesser than you just because of your status or celebrity. I would suggest to Lance he grow up. By bearejay February 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this "Lede" is correct. The NYT has a blog called The Lede and gives this explanation: In the news business, the opening sentences of a story are referred to as its "lede" -- spelled that way, journalism lore has it, to avoid confusion with the lead typesetting that once dominated newspaper printing presses. Why so anti-Lance people? I imagine most people have acted like a jerk after a few drinks at some point in their lives. Most of us have the advantage of not having it reported in the newspaper. I don't see this as a good reason to tear him and his accomplishments apart. By Egos Maniac February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this I worked the door at a bar on south congress for a few years before it's recent transformation. i can assure you that if the TABC had been there, Sean would have lost his job. Period. They don't care who is involved. Unless Lance is willing to support Sean and pay his bills, he needs to do what the people who work in these bars ask him to do or move to Dallas where more people will be impressed with him. By to austin hates success February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this "Maybe Lance genuinely forgot that he couldn't take a drink out?" Seriously? Do you drink? I have never met a person who has genuinely forgot they can not take alcohol on public streets in Austin, unless they were wasted. I am sure Lance goes out on a regular basis like the rest of us. He is just living the dream. By rach February 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this it's too bad that lance, being a great athelete and cancer surviving role model that he is, has to represent himself so poorly. he's lived in austin long enough to know that we don't get star struck or give star treatment to anyone. that's what makes this town so awesome. equality, baby. By Marie February 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this Lance you better watch out and remember the bigger they are the harder they fall. If you think you are so big you better watch out for that sudden stop!!! By Mike February 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this Maybe he'll get cancer again. By barfly February 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this Lance owns the bar called "Six". unlikely that he doesn't know the rules. By Nate February 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this I am just guessing here, but I don't think Higgins intended to put down Armstrong by saying he didn't care about how many Tours he'd won. I think he was stating requirements under TABC and local law enforcement. It does not matter if the guy is Rick Perry or Kinky Friedman. Taking an alcoholic beverage outside of a venue, meaning open street or totally off the premises, is breaking the law. It could cost the bar their liquor license or result in a suspension/fine. Others could be arrested. Higgins was trying to keep himself out of jail, as well as Lance...open container laws, eh? By TommyR February 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this A good door man/bouncer is discreet, polite, and expert at defusing situations. A good door man/bouncer plays the situation as your friend who is doing you a favor. This is unless you want to create a commotion and lose customers. Seems like Higgins "forcefully made it clear" otherwise. By Darren February 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this "who like he Bridwell stole him from the Charlie Daniels Band" this is a grammatical gem... By Flat Tire February 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this THANK YOU for not letting a obnoxious guy get away with breaking the law just because of his celebrity status. The door man/bouncer was doing his job. Now perhaps Lance should do HIS. HE wants to be this celebrity who's admired and respected. Then give us something to respect. By DK February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this I hear a lot of people complain about the sound at La Zona Rosa. It really is a black and white concert venue. If you are to the right side of the pillars, the sound is consistently exceptional. It's only when you are to the left of the pillars that the sound quality dramatically drops. My guess is that most of the people who say they don't like the sound are standing off to that left side. By Debbie February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this Life is short.Treat others as you want to be treated.I just want to say"Thanks to Lance for all his fund raising for people with cancer. I count myself lucky to be here too. By frenchkiss February 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this The real stupper is the writer of the article. The isn't news or even interesting commentary. But no news is no news. Lance did good and we are jealous. I considering deleting this page. fK By frenchkiss February 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this The real stupper is the writer of the article. The isn't news or even interesting commentary. But no news is no news. Lance did good and we are jealous. I'm considering deleting this page. fK By Natalie February 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this I commend Lance on all of his accomplishments... But for those of you who are saying " When your drunk, everyone has a right to forget that you can't take drinks out of a bar" Where are you from, New Orleans? You can not take drinks out of a bar in Austin and even when I have been very intoxicated I did not forget that. Remember Lance, It's not football season and you are not tailgating! And winning the tour de france and beating cancer does not get you out of jail and it certainly does not allow you to be disrespectful to local Austinites. By elvislives February 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this Frenchkiss, seriously? This a not-newsworthy article yet it inspired a comment from you? Allow me to take the time to let you know that I will no longer take the time. Furthermore, I will make an outlandish comment calling for the deletion an internet page. You know, because I am the page editor of the internets and this is just another example of tube clogging, not-newsworthy journalism. Just enjoy the read or move on. The show rocked, sound quality much better at LZR than purported by others and a local celeb made a fool of himself. That's newsworthy to me. By Lawrence February 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this How shockingly irresponsible to report on second-hand "hearsay" reports about a non-story from unreliable sources. Go back to reporting for People magazine. Fortunately, losers like me who take the time to post comments have little affect on the world, and the majority of comments on this complete non-story shows only that losers who post on the Internet generally have nothing better to do than artificially elevate themselves by condescendingly, self-righteously, and wholly- anonymously telling a celebrity how to live their lives. Has anyone here ever been confronted by a jacka$$ bouncer? Is it POSSIBLE that Lance took umbridge to the way in which the bouncer took the drink, not the mere fact that he took it? And even if Lance was a jerk, I wonder how any of these posters would look if they had their lives recorded under a microscope. Yes, he should have shrugged it off, but even taking this report at face value is no big deal. Really a non- story. By JustWondering February 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this Lawrence: Lance, is that you? Didn't anonymously bumping yourself go out with MacKay's blunder? By Vance Vader February 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this Lance, No one gives a crap WHO you are. And oh yeah, don't drink and ride your bike. By Roger Clemens February 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this Why you guys giving Lance such a hard time? Sometimes after I eat a bunch of HEB beef and then get a needle of vitamin B I GO CRAZY!!!! Like in a total rage. That stuff just happens. By telluride February 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this I remember when 6th Street clubs used to give you cups to pour your beer into and take with you. Times have changed. Regardless, agreed the bouncer made a snoddy remark, but Lance overreacted. By lancealot February 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this FrenchKISS you rock. DELETE! SLaL By robert tillotson February 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this I too was there and witnessed it..this was not that big of a deal....people walk around with beers all of the time..look at some of the homeless people...that bar gets people loaded on yeager shots every night, do not make this a big deal folks. By the way, this was one of the better shows in a long while...download them soon, you will be happy, great road tripping music! You do not bust Willie for pot and you do not bust Lance for a cold beer! Find a better cause to report folks! By FBA February 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this Vote french kiss for membership into vegan entourage. I walk out of bars with my drink all the time; what's the big deal, I paid for it, it's mine. So Lance got upset... he was drinking. Lance gives back to our community more than most and Lance is not over-rated (unlike Wayne Gretzky). Lance negativity is envy coupled with cheater pumpkin eater. You can't cheat on a bike race you can only cheat on taxes, your wife and presidential elections. By clarity February 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this FYI, Lance had nothing to do with the pollution at Hamilton Pool, that's related to upstream (poorly done) development. He was involved in the Dead Man's Hole debacle, which has since been cleaned up (at his expense). By Jim February 4, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this Just another reason we should not name bikeways or schools after living persons. Memo to council--can we get a new name for the bikeway. By Donald February 4, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this Using words from New York City in Austin? Oh my, oh my!!! If Lance was in NYC no one would ever have heard of this and the dumb bouncer probably wouldn�t have known enough to reference the 7 TdF wins. Lance should get to a decent sized town quickly and it�ll be Austin�s lose! By David February 4, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this Lance you are from Texas. Nobody should have to tell you that it is illegal to leave leave the bar with drink in hand. The fact that you felt you could is evidence enough. How many times have any of you been at a bar and thought you could leave with a drink? There is no doubt you have accomplished great things Lance. But this is a p*ick move! By bevo not February 4, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this The guy represents the typical me-first, me-important mentality of most people with a little money, a little fame. It's certainly not the first time it's been seen. That's why it's so disgusting to see people worship his being as much as they do. By MC February 4, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this You have to give Armstrong a lot of credit for owning up to his overreaction. He could've sent his reps to spin it like the bouncer was a total jerk, but he didn't. To me, he comes off as a totally imperfect standup guy, By otromundo February 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this I'm with TommyR who said "A good door man/bouncer plays the situation as your friend who is doing you a favor." Instead too many play out their little power trip fantasies. Lance responded the same way many of us respond to obnoxious people, at a bar or otherwise. The difference is precisely because of Lance's celebrity he's milked the next day for someone's low-rent gossip column. Elevate. By Mammo February 4, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this I probably would have gotten upset, too. I've come across too many bouncers on a power trip to think this is just a case of a celebrity throwing a sanctimonious fit. Sounds like both of them needed to get over themselves. By By: Jeff February 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this I have know Sean for a long time. He is like a brother to me. I think Lance was out of line. Lance acts like this is the first time he's ever been to Austin or that he's never been in the downtown night scene. Lance, you're supposed to be a role model but you're not setting a good example for others. You know the rules and should abide by them like every one else has to. I also don't think you should have gone back making threats. You should have just left. Grow up, Lance. I applaude you, Sean. You did the right thing. Keep it up brother. By E. M. February 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this Of course Armstrong blames it on Higgins. I highly doubt Higgins was forceful in merely telling him no alcohol outside the bar. Typical Lance he thinks he's above it all. I have to wonder if you were asked to insert your last paragraph. Make no mistake about it - Armstrong is only sorry he was seen as being the egomaniac and narcissist he is. He's sorry but it was Higgins' fault that he acted that way. You may have money and fame Lance Armstrong but you're a joke and money won't buy you any class. Dan Coyle (Armstrong's War) and David Walsh (From Lance to Landis) had your number a loooong time ago. By La Raza February 4, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this Hey everybody!! Get a life!! By word on the street February 4, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this there sure are a lot of stories about lance throwing spoiled hissy fits in public. makes one wonder why? if he was a really nice guy, wouldn't there be more stories about that? By Betsy February 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this one word: LOSER By dbag February 4, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this everyone living in Austin has a "Lance is a dirt bag who hit on my daughter-sister-girlfriend-mom" story. Dude needs to grow up. I thought he was "Spending more time with his kids"? By JGM February 4, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this I was at a silent benefit auction recently, and a signed jersey of Lance's was up for bid. The auction lasted 4 hours, and his jersey garnered a total of 0 bids. On the other hand a day at a local spa went for 1,000 bucks. I myself got a nice signed Kevin Durant ball for $500. Point of story. NO ONE CARES ABOUT LANCE. HE IS SO OVER. By jlm February 4, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this Guys with real celebrity and power never really have to use it. Threatening a door man doing his job is pretty low class and shows a huge level of insecurity. Lance, man, you were the MAN! Now be a big man and stop leaving bruises on your adoring public. Get a grip on your potential and live up to it, ddude, cause you are breaking a whole lot of hearts. Take stock of your life and live it like the champion you were on a bike. Hey, Lance, you are now off the bike, so it is time to get it together and make the next couple of acts in your life --- world class. Go apologize to that door man and show the world that you really still area champion. By Dave February 4, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Both parties were at fault and neither was a good role model for their trade that night. By MCH February 4, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this So I open my mail box and I get this months Texas Monthly. I look at the cover and there is his Lanceness with the words "The Future" in big florescent red block letters..... you can't blame the guy for being a little conceited. By richard February 4, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this Lance and his little ego is bigger than his cycling in France. I don't care for Lance and his cause. I don't support him in any way and I did vote against his cancer bill. Lance go home we do not need you as much as you think. By rafa February 4, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this Yo what's up with all the Lance bashing? First of all the guy admitted he was also wrong, and if he weren't a celebrity we wouldn't even know about this story. It sounds like the door guy was fronting too, which hardly bodes well for the club. Second of all, and most importantly, Lance Armstrong has done alot of good for alot of people. He's given, and continues to give more than most, and he doesn't have to. And frankly there are many people who give nothing-perhaps some of you reading this comment, or whom have written previously. You don't need money to offer your services either. So please take it easy on the guy, and chill. Lest you look foolish yourselves By Michael February 5, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this Sorry Lance, No BYE on this one. You know the Rules, Everyone old enough to drink has probably tried and been warned about taking drinks outside the door. IF at your age, you've still not received that warning a few dozen times, then you've truly lived a charmed life. By Helen February 5, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this Great report -- and it got picked up on frontburner, Dallas' best-read blog -- but why the italicized postscript? Did Lance get mad at you, too? Tell, tell. By Matthew Rampage February 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this Lance is on the radio with Dudley abd Bob right now spilling his side of the beans. By Ames Tiedeman February 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this Look, these things happen. All will be forgotten. This is just a bit of life. This is just a bit of Austin, Texas! Lance is a great hero. I am not going to pass judgement on him or Higgins. Higgins obviously does his job well. Life would be too boring if everyone was perfect 100% of the time. Be good, Ames F. Tiedeman By AGuyinAustin February 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this I think it's so very easy to tear down when one doesn't know all the facts and forgets that people are people, regardless of celebrity, income, or accomplishments. To read the comments above - the majority simply vicious and catty - does not reflect the Austin I know and love. I've been there, done that in similar situations and am thankful that, like most of you, I'm not being villified the following morning or having to write a public apology. Regardless of what you think of this incident, my take is Lance is a solid representative of Austin and even more importantly the cancer community. Oh, and he manned up about this afterwards, too. By Edward February 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this Manning up would be apologizing to the door guy, not the guy that happened to report it. By Mimi February 5, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this I have a close friend who works in the sports media... in deference to her professionalism, I won't identify her or her national broadcast network. She's experienced a couple run ins with Armstrong and heard about other incidents, where he tries to blatantly "use' his celebrity to his personal advantage. She personally discovered he can be a very unpleasant person when he's out of the spotlight and drinking. At other times, he's just your run of the mill SOB with an overblown sense of entitlement. By marcus February 5, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this Note to self: do not read #%$@*&!! By flasky February 5, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this Wow. On my four (to date) visits to Austin, I had been fooled into thinking it was an oasis of rational thought. Thanks for dispelling that notion. You're just as petty and ignorant as the rest of Texas. I'd like to see some of you ride 20 miles, not to mention 2000-plus over three weeks. Go do something significant so you can move out of your parents' basements. Oh- and the sound at LZR DOES suck. By Seerbeer February 5, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this At One in the morning, it's the booze talking. The old ego-protective mechanisms work overtime. Social inhibitions are down. In the morning, that's when the self-disgust kicks in and requires an amends. If it happens regularly, the answer can be found within the walls of AA meetings. If it's only an occasional blunder, it only deserves forgetting by all concerned. Blessings All By lulu February 5, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this lance licking is gross. he's bad a*s in his field: cycling. parenting, public behavior, social responsiblility, drug awareness.....who knows? he clearly struts expecting a free pass because "we" gave him the lance love. that he thinks he can be a politician is/was insane until we elected "W". now give him a break. yes, the door man is tabc "golden". la zona should give him a raise. they'd be sued big-time if lance crashed his cycling frame. but door guy probably was an a*s, and so was lance. let's call it a draw of entitlement. wake up call to all narcissists! By Mister Me February 6, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this Wow! There's a lot of Lance haters out there. I came to this site to check out a Band of Horses show review and ended up wading through a lot of stupid crap. Do we really care if Lance Armstrong tried to walk out of a club with a drink? I mean that stupid "event" got more attention then the real show. Band of Horses rocked! Oh, and Flasky, if you think that by making four trips to Austin and reading a blog you can generalize Austin as being "petty and ignorant" then you, my friend, are an idiot. Please don't come back! You need help. �Serious psychological help. �Its not healthy to obsess over someone for so long. �I wish you the best in making something more of your pathetic life, sitting around in your boxers in your mother's basement, ragging on Lance. Best wishes in your recovery. Fred **** you Fred I know my garbageman's name. I'm nice to kids and old people. I don't hit on every or any blond (I'm still married) Lance was a fun teammate, but a real loser as a person. |
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On Feb 6, 11:02�pm, wrote: You need help. �Serious psychological help. �Its not healthy to obsess over someone for so long. �I wish you the best in making something more of your pathetic life, sitting around in your boxers in your mother's basement, ragging on Lance. Best wishes in your recovery. Fred **** you Fred Â*I know my garbageman's name. I'm nice to kids and old people. I don't hit on every or any blond (I'm still married) Lance was a fun teammate, but a real loser as a person. Still, whatever beefs you have with him will not be solved by your incessant ragging on him on this forum. It just makes you look pathetic. |
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