|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
Nice inclusive quote in the article by a minion from Shopping Spree Tours; "Swanston St was originally and always should be a roadway first, not a bloody bike track," the spokesman said. As a former innercity resident who endured the delights of Bus Season I've got some fighting words for you too mate. Including, Swanston may well be a roadway, but it's not a fkng loading bay. *** City bus ban to favour bikes http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...3-2862,00.html June 27, 2007 12:00am TOUR buses would be removed from Swanston St under a council plan to help make the CBD thoroughfare safer for cyclists. New bus stops would be built on Bourke St when the Southern Cross development is completed in two years' time. The council has encouraged people to ride into the city and Swanston St has become a popular cycling route. A survey this year found an average of 2585 cyclists a day used the street. But the coaches parked between Lonsdale and Bourke streets have made the journey dangerous. The Melbourne City Council called for public discussion over options to move the bus stops. Alternatives were for Lonsdale St between Russell and Swanston streets, and St Kilda Rd near Alexandra Gardens. The council received 56 written submissions. Most cyclists and city residents backed Swanston St being bus-free. But tour operators and bus companies wanted the stops to stay. A spokesman for Shopping Spree Tours described any plan to move the stops as irresponsible. "Swanston St was originally and always should be a roadway first, not a bloody bike track," the spokesman said. Councillors will consider the proposals at a planning committee meeting on Tuesday. -- cfsmtb |
Ads |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
On Jun 27, 4:02 pm, cfsmtb cfsmtb.2st...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote: Nice inclusive quote in the article by a minion from Shopping Spree Tours; "Swanston St was originally and always should be a roadway first, not a bloody bike track," the spokesman said. As a former innercity resident who endured the delights of Bus Season I've got some fighting words for you too mate. Including, Swanston may well be a roadway, but it's not a fkng loading bay. *** City bus ban to favour bikeshttp://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21972863-2862,00.html June 27, 2007 12:00am TOUR buses would be removed from Swanston St under a council plan to help make the CBD thoroughfare safer for cyclists. New bus stops would be built on Bourke St when the Southern Cross development is completed in two years' time. The council has encouraged people to ride into the city and Swanston St has become a popular cycling route. A survey this year found an average of 2585 cyclists a day used the street. But the coaches parked between Lonsdale and Bourke streets have made the journey dangerous. The Melbourne City Council called for public discussion over options to move the bus stops. Alternatives were for Lonsdale St between Russell and Swanston streets, and St Kilda Rd near Alexandra Gardens. The council received 56 written submissions. Most cyclists and city residents backed Swanston St being bus-free. But tour operators and bus companies wanted the stops to stay. A spokesman for Shopping Spree Tours described any plan to move the stops as irresponsible. "Swanston St was originally and always should be a roadway first, not a bloody bike track," the spokesman said. Councillors will consider the proposals at a planning committee meeting on Tuesday. -- cfsmtb In case you neede to talk to Shelly Contact Details PH: +61 3 9596 6600 E: |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
PiledHigher Wrote: In case you neede to talk to Shelly Contact Details PH: +61 3 9596 6600 E: Or if you'd like to contact MCC and inform them of your admiration of this initiative, free feel to drop them an encouraging note. Contact MCC http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info.cfm?top=23&pg=3454 Tour bus relocation proposal http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info...pa=731&pg=3625 Even though public comment closed a month ago, the respective staff at MCC probably would mind receiving encouraging feedback. -- cfsmtb |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
cfsmtb wrote in
: A spokesman for Shopping Spree Tours described any plan to move the stops as irresponsible. "Swanston St was originally and always should be a roadway first, not a bloody bike track," the spokesman said. Councillors will consider the proposals at a planning committee meeting on Tuesday. .... and as a roadway, it's been used by cyclists for longer than it has by motor vehicles! |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:20:03 +0000, MoreBikesPlease wrote:
cfsmtb wrote in : A spokesman for Shopping Spree Tours described any plan to move the stops as irresponsible. "Swanston St was originally and always should be a roadway first, not a bloody bike track," the spokesman said. Councillors will consider the proposals at a planning committee meeting on Tuesday. ... and as a roadway, it's been used by cyclists for longer than it has by motor vehicles! These thoughts are from someone who lived briefly in Melbourne over 20 years ago. Swanston Street then was basically a place where almost stationary lines of cars spent hours not doing much. Even pedestians could use this "roadway" much better and faster than cars. Has it "improved"? Peter -- The Kiwi bird is very aptly New Zealand's national emblem. It is a bird which cannot fly. It only comes out at night. It has nostrils at the end of its long beak, and It is always poking its nose into things. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
Peter Keller Wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:20:03 +0000, MoreBikesPlease wrote: These thoughts are from someone who lived briefly in Melbourne over 20 years ago. Swanston Street then was basically a place where almost stationary lines of cars spent hours not doing much. Even pedestians could use this "roadway" much better and faster than cars. Has it "improved"? The only vehicle traffic allowed on the stretch of Swanston Street I ride on, between Flinder's Street and La Trobe, are bicycles, busses, trams, cabs and vehicles engaged in delivering stuff to/from shops on Swanston Street. The result is a road which is comparatively lightly travelled by motorised vehicles. Unforutnately this leads to complacency amongst pedestrians, I believer that stretch of road has the dubious distinction of having the most pedestrian collisions in Victoria, if not Australia. Bike wise it's fine provided you accept that you may have to stick behind a tram rather than pass it on the left as parked trucks etc can make that rather hazardous. -- EuanB |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
Peter Keller Wrote: These thoughts are from someone who lived briefly in Melbourne over 20 years ago. Swanston Street then was basically a place where almost stationary lines of cars spent hours not doing much. Even pedestians could use this "roadway" much better and faster than cars. Has it "improved"? How long is a piece of string? The main CBD section of Swanston was closed off to motorised traffic in the 90's, then partially re-opened to placate the local traders in '99. IMHO the street has suffered badly from a lack of strong management from respective Melb City Council administrations and conflicting interests, but that's nothing unique in local politics. For all it's current drawbacks, at the least the street is no longer a traffic sewer for most of the day. http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info.cfm?top=53&pg=731 http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info...a=1752&pg=1786 Until the tour buses started breeding and creating issues for street users, as if the errant peds, 'rumble strips' and the occassional horse poo aren't bad enough. Further north up Swanston now has Copehagen lanes: http://www.bv.com.au/change-the-world/11629/ -- cfsmtb |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
".. roadway first, not a bloody bike track"
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:01:49 +1000, EuanB wrote:
The only vehicle traffic allowed on the stretch of Swanston Street I ride on, between Flinder's Street and La Trobe, are bicycles, busses, trams, cabs and vehicles engaged in delivering stuff to/from shops on Swanston Street. I have to confess that when I drove to Melbourne some years ago, I drove up Swanston St before realizing that it was strangely quiet, and that I therefore probably wasn't supposed to. No doubt there were signs telling me not to turn into it, but inner Melbourne is so saturated with road signage (at least to my Adelaide eyes) that I'm not surprised I missed them. -- Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
"John "Cho" Gilmer keeps publishing his "Manifesto" over and over." | Hoodini | Racing | 0 | April 23rd 07 12:38 AM |
FS: Bianchi Track Frame 53cm, "Pista Concept 2004" | David and Diane Feldman | Marketplace | 0 | November 22nd 06 04:27 PM |
GT "ricochet"trials bike. "old school" from the late 80s. | [email protected] | Marketplace | 0 | August 5th 05 05:12 PM |
letter to the editor of The Age re "Drugs, dial, drive, bloody idiot?" | Carl Brewer | Australia | 14 | July 18th 05 08:04 AM |