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Old October 7th 15, 12:13 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html
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Old October 7th 15, 12:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 07/10/2015 12:13, Mrcheerful wrote:

James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html


Surely it's all OK and the arrest was unnecessary?

After all, the cyclist apologised for causing thousands of pounds worth
of criminal damage and for the assault occasioning actual or grievous
bodily harm.


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Old October 7th 15, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
David Lang
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On 07/10/2015 12:55, JNugent wrote:
On 07/10/2015 12:13, Mrcheerful wrote:

James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html


Surely it's all OK and the arrest was unnecessary?

After all, the cyclist apologised for causing thousands of pounds worth
of criminal damage and for the assault occasioning actual or grievous
bodily harm.


Don't forget the possession of an offensive weapon.
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Old October 7th 15, 01:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Road rage cyclist in court, because someone hooted him

On 07/10/2015 13:04, David Lang wrote:
On 07/10/2015 12:55, JNugent wrote:
On 07/10/2015 12:13, Mrcheerful wrote:

James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html



Surely it's all OK and the arrest was unnecessary?

After all, the cyclist apologised for causing thousands of pounds worth
of criminal damage and for the assault occasioning actual or grievous
bodily harm.


Don't forget the possession of an offensive weapon.


Yeah... but...

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Old October 7th 15, 02:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...


James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html

I'm sure the eminent lawyer PhilWLee QC will jump to his aid and prepare an
appeal for him.
After all, it is he who advises cyclists on such actions, particularly in
the use of a "D" lock.

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Old October 7th 15, 02:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
David Lang
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On 07/10/2015 14:03, Tarcap wrote:


"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...


James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html


I'm sure the eminent lawyer PhilWLee QC will jump to his aid and prepare
an appeal for him.


Or prepare a latte.

After all, it is he who advises cyclists on such actions, particularly
in the use of a "D" lock.


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Old October 8th 15, 09:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 12:13:52 +0100, Mrcheerful
wrote:


James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock


I am pretty sure that M'Lud Lee has told us that it is OK to do so.

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Old October 8th 15, 09:39 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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On 08/10/2015 09:06, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 12:13:52 +0100, Mrcheerful
wrote:


James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock


I am pretty sure that M'Lud Lee has told us that it is OK to do so.


Self evidently the man and his car were too close to the cyclist.
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Old October 9th 15, 02:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Phil W Lee" wrote in message
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"Tarcap" considered Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:03:47
+0100 the perfect time to write:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...


James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html

I'm sure the eminent lawyer PhilWLee QC will jump to his aid and prepare an
appeal for him.
After all, it is he who advises cyclists on such actions, particularly in
the use of a "D" lock.


It seems blatantly obvious that the police halfwit arrested the wrong
party - the use of the motor vehicle to assault the cyclist (assault
includes any act which causes the victim to fear immediate and
unlawful violence) gave the cyclist the perfect right to defend
himself against such aggression, and the abuse of the horn only
reinforces that this was a deliberate act of "get out of my important
way, pleb".
It's unfortunate that the cyclist will end up with a criminal record
due to the perjury of the police officer and his assailant, who seem
to have conspired together to pervert the course of justice.
I note that the victims statement was uncontested, although I dispute
that his reaction was bad - only the police reaction to his
self-defence - so it seems that he was under some duress while making
his statement.

I was only joking - I wasn't really expecting him to come along and defend
the psycholist's actions.
But hey - what a bonus!

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Old October 9th 15, 02:57 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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On 09/10/2015 14:51, Tarcap wrote:


"Phil W Lee" wrote in message
...

"Tarcap" considered Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:03:47
+0100 the perfect time to write:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...


James Bromet, 51, attacked Robert Jackson with a metal D-lock after the
motorist got out of his Alfa Romeo to protest about the damage to his
vehicle.

The altercation began when Mr Jackson beeped his horn to avoid a
collision with Bromet.

The cyclist shouted and swore at the driver, saying “I’m going to hit
your car” before taking the cycle lock and smashing the car’s bodywork.
When Mr Jackson got out of his car to try to restrain Bromet, the
enraged publisher attacked him with the lock.

A police officer witnessed the assault and arrested Bromet at the scene
in Hammersmith in August.

The cyclist, who later apologised for the attack and said he was
“mortified”, admitted assault, causing criminal damage, and using
threatening words to provoke violence.

Bromet, of Fulham, said in a police statement: “This car came up behind
very aggressively, tooting, obviously taking offence at something, but
it didn’t stop, and came up behind us again. It was then that I reacted
badly.”

Magistrate Greg Thomson said: “This is a road rage incident where the
defendant, for whatever reason, not only chose to use a lock to damage
the victim’s car, but has then taken a swing at the victim. This is a
serious matter. It is something that the courts take a dim view of.”

Sentencing was adjourned until October 14.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3084551.html


I'm sure the eminent lawyer PhilWLee QC will jump to his aid and
prepare an
appeal for him.
After all, it is he who advises cyclists on such actions, particularly in
the use of a "D" lock.


It seems blatantly obvious that the police halfwit arrested the wrong
party - the use of the motor vehicle to assault the cyclist (assault
includes any act which causes the victim to fear immediate and
unlawful violence) gave the cyclist the perfect right to defend
himself against such aggression, and the abuse of the horn only
reinforces that this was a deliberate act of "get out of my important
way, pleb".
It's unfortunate that the cyclist will end up with a criminal record
due to the perjury of the police officer and his assailant, who seem
to have conspired together to pervert the course of justice.
I note that the victims statement was uncontested, although I dispute
that his reaction was bad - only the police reaction to his
self-defence - so it seems that he was under some duress while making
his statement.

I was only joking - I wasn't really expecting him to come along and
defend the psycholist's actions.
But hey - what a bonus!


Brilliant load of crap from Phil, he never disappoints in his amazingly
bad prognostications.

On a legal note, reacting some while after the event (as in this case)
would not be considered to be a provoked/frightened reaction. It would
be a premeditated act of violence/vandalism.
The logical thing to do is to stay as far away from the perpetrator as
you can, not move closer for vigilante action, by all means take the
details and report the alledged misdeed.
 




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