Cyclist jailed for pavemant death

Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has been
jailed for seven months.



Darren Hall, 20, cycled down a hill in Weymouth, Dorset, too fast and rode
on to the pavement to avoid a red traffic light, Dorchester Crown Court
heard.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430.stm



pk

On Aug 12, 4:21*pm, "p.k." wrote:
Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has been
jailed for seven months.

Darren Hall, 20, cycled down a hill in Weymouth, Dorset, too fast and rode
on to the pavement to avoid a red traffic light, Dorchester Crown Court
heard.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430.stm

pk


As a cyclist terrorist he should have been banned from riding a bike
for the rest of his life.
His bike should have been crushed.
Obviously the judge was a cyclist & gave him a leinient sentance.
The police & the CPS are also obviously cyclists, he should have been
charged with manslaughter.


PeterG

"PeterG" wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 4:21 pm, "p.k." wrote:
Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has
been
jailed for seven months.

Darren Hall, 20, cycled down a hill in Weymouth, Dorset, too fast and rode
on to the pavement to avoid a red traffic light, Dorchester Crown Court
heard.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430.stm

pk


As a cyclist terrorist he should have been banned from riding a bike
for the rest of his life.
His bike should have been crushed.
Obviously the judge was a cyclist & gave him a leinient sentance.
The police & the CPS are also obviously cyclists, he should have been
charged with manslaughter.


I find it a bit weird that he was prosecuted for a _driving_ offence.
Obviously it was felt that in order to treat him as leniently as a driver
would be in the circumstances, it had to be so.

On Aug 12, 4:21*pm, "p.k." wrote:
Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has been
jailed for seven months.

Darren Hall, 20, cycled down a hill in Weymouth, Dorset, too fast and rode
on to the pavement to avoid a red traffic light, Dorchester Crown Court
heard.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430.stm

pk

The guy should have got longer IMO. Just like all the motorists who
mow down hundreds of pedestrians each year - I don't make a
distinction.

The thing is, many drivers who kill people in HIT-AND-RUNS get more
lenient senteces:

No fine at all he

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...onal-news/2009...

Woman hits cyclist, cyclist falls off and is killed. Woman goes to
court, pleads that points will mean an automatic ban (she has already
been convicted of several offences), and that means she would have to
walk two miles to school. Intolerable! So she walks away with her
license and a £250 fine.

http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Bloody_cyclists

Hit and run driver fined ?200 for killing woman Simon Dale, a hit and
run driver who killed a 91 year old woman, Marged Griffiths, as she
crossed the road on the A487 in Cardigan, Wales has been given a ?700
fine and eight points on his licence

http://www.brake.org.uk/news/uk-road...es/hit-and-run

No jail for fatal hit and run driver A UK van driver has received 200
hours community service for ‘failing to report an accident’, after he
knocked down and killed a 12 year-old cyclist. Craig Muskett was
riding his bike when he was knocked over by 37 year-old van driver,
Nathan Ball. Ball also received a four-month ban.

No fine at all:

Family outrage as uninsured hit and run driver who killed boy, 4,
walks free from court

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...utrage-uninsur...

A FORK lift truck driver who killed a Guildford College student
cycling home on the A3 destroyed his car the same morning to remove
evidence of the collision.

Harris will have to carry out 150 hours of unpaid work and his licence
will be endorsed.

He was banned from driving for a year and received a £500 fine after
pleading guilty to charges of driving without due care and attention,
and failing to stop after the accident.

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/20...d_car_after_hi...

p.k. wrote:

Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has been
jailed for seven months.

Is that all? It doesn't seem much, for killing somebody by behaving like
a maniac.

Daniele
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p.k. wrote:
Cyclist jailed for pavement death
Goodenoughforim
Cut off his goolies!

On 12 Aug, 17:13, "Budstaff"
wrote:
"PeterG" wrote in message

...
On Aug 12, 4:21 pm, "p.k." wrote:



Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has
been
jailed for seven months.

Darren Hall, 20, cycled down a hill in Weymouth, Dorset, too fast and rode
on to the pavement to avoid a red traffic light, Dorchester Crown Court
heard.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430.stm

pk
As a cyclist terrorist he should have been banned from riding a bike
for the rest of his life.
His bike should have been crushed.
Obviously the judge was a cyclist & gave him a leinient sentance.
The police & the CPS are also obviously cyclists, he should have been
charged with manslaughter.

I find it a bit weird that he was prosecuted for a _driving_ offence.
Obviously it was felt that in order to treat him as leniently as a driver
would be in the circumstances, it had to be so.

It's a /driving/ offence but not a /motoring/ offence; it relates to
driving any sort of carrage - including a bicycle. The clue is the
fact that the law predates the invention of the motor car.

What gets me is that he was not prosecuted for manslaughter, which
would seem a much more appropriate charge in this case and carries
with it a much more appropriate sentencing options.

Simon Brooke wrote:
On 12 Aug, 17:13, "Budstaff"
wrote:
"PeterG" wrote in message

...
On Aug 12, 4:21 pm, "p.k." wrote:



Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has
been
jailed for seven months.
Darren Hall, 20, cycled down a hill in Weymouth, Dorset, too fast and rode
on to the pavement to avoid a red traffic light, Dorchester Crown Court
heard.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430.stm
pk
As a cyclist terrorist he should have been banned from riding a bike
for the rest of his life.
His bike should have been crushed.
Obviously the judge was a cyclist & gave him a leinient sentance.
The police & the CPS are also obviously cyclists, he should have been
charged with manslaughter.
I find it a bit weird that he was prosecuted for a _driving_ offence.
Obviously it was felt that in order to treat him as leniently as a driver
would be in the circumstances, it had to be so.

It's a /driving/ offence but not a /motoring/ offence; it relates to
driving any sort of carrage - including a bicycle. The clue is the
fact that the law predates the invention of the motor car.

What gets me is that he was not prosecuted for manslaughter, which
would seem a much more appropriate charge in this case and carries
with it a much more appropriate sentencing options.
And much less chance of a jury finding him guilty?

The CPS will pitch for what they think they will get , rather than what
the offence is worth, they do this at both ends of the scale.

On Aug 12, 6:48*pm, Marc wrote:
Simon Brooke wrote:
On 12 Aug, 17:13, "Budstaff"
wrote:
"PeterG" wrote in message

....
On Aug 12, 4:21 pm, "p.k." wrote:

Cyclist jailed for pavement death
A cyclist who knocked down an 84-year-old pedestrian who later died has
been
jailed for seven months.
Darren Hall, 20, cycled down a hill in Weymouth, Dorset, too fast and rode
on to the pavement to avoid a red traffic light, Dorchester Crown Court
heard.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8197430.stm
pk
As a cyclist terrorist he should have been banned from riding a bike
for the rest of his life.
His bike should have been crushed.
Obviously the judge was a cyclist & gave him a leinient sentance.
The police & the CPS are also obviously cyclists, he should have been
charged with manslaughter.
I find it a bit weird that he was prosecuted for a _driving_ offence.
Obviously it was felt that in order to treat him as leniently as a driver
would be in the circumstances, it had to be so.

It's a /driving/ offence but not a /motoring/ offence; it relates to
driving any sort of carrage - including a bicycle. The clue is the
fact that the law predates the invention of the motor car.

What gets me is that he was not prosecuted for manslaughter, which
would seem a much more appropriate charge in this case and carries
with it a much more appropriate sentencing options.

And much less chance of a jury finding him guilty?

The CPS will pitch for what they think they will get , rather than what
the offence is worth, they do this at both ends of the scale.

then the CPS is wrong, and useless. IMO.

Simon Brooke wrote:

I find it a bit weird that he was prosecuted for a _driving_ offence.
Obviously it was felt that in order to treat him as leniently as a driver
would be in the circumstances, it had to be so.

It's a /driving/ offence but not a /motoring/ offence; it relates to
driving any sort of carrage - including a bicycle. The clue is the
fact that the law predates the invention of the motor car.

And it also (apparently) is a crime against the person, rather than the
laws of the road:

"The wanton and furious driving charge goes back to 1861 under the
Offences Against the Person Act and reflects the gravity of the
incident."

What gets me is that he was not prosecuted for manslaughter, which
would seem a much more appropriate charge in this case and carries
with it a much more appropriate sentencing options.

I think so. However, perhaps it was felt that a manslaughter charge
wouldn't stick.

I think that the rather mild sentence shows that the tendency in law to
discount injuries when caused by drivers of vehicles - of every kind -
goes back a long way.

Daniele
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