Richmond Park - Cops campaign v speeding cyclists !

Following the introduction of the 20 mph speed limit in Richmond Park,
there is a lively correspondence in my local rag. Including one from
the Inspector of the Park Police who observes :


It is noticeable that many cyclists are now overtaking the cars,
travelling above the speed limit.

A campaign is underway to deal with them as the law equally applies.



Further text below,

Regards,
Tim


SIR - Regarding the letters from the public in your newspaper.

Since the introduction of the new speed limit, approximately 300
warnings have been issued to drivers for exceeding this limit. Most
of them were travelling just over 30 mph.

The warning made it clear to them that any future offences would lead
to prosecution.

The warning campaign finished at the end of May and normal daily
enforcement by Patrol Officers is implemented.

The majority of drivers are complying with the new limit, or are
driving just slightly above it.

It is noticeable that many cyclists are now overtaking the cars,
travelling above the speed limit.

A campaign is underway to deal with them as the law equally applies.

As stated by, one of your readers, some major speed offenders still
use the park roads and these offenders are reported and brought before
the local magistrates. One was reported last week.

These high speed offenders will be targeted and dealt with.
Regarding the commercial vehicles enforcement.......

The enforcement of these offences will contine to be dealt with on a
daily basis as they form part of the overall 'Policing Plan
Objectives' for Richmond Park.
In addition to this my officers deal with numerous other offences that
form part of the plan.
My policing unit will also have the added advantage of additional
staff from July, ie six Police Community Support Officers have been
assigned.
This will help the unit considerably and free up staff to carry out
further enforcement of the matters raised and other matters. .
Anyone who has concerns can contact my sector officers or myself:
Sergeant Valerie Trinkwon, Sergeant Nick Byrant or PC Kelvin Clarke.

Ron Cook
Inspector
(West London Royal Parks)
Richmond Park Police Office,
Holly Lodge, Richmond Park

"Tim Henderson" wrote in message
om...
Following the introduction of the 20 mph speed limit in Richmond Park,
there is a lively correspondence in my local rag. Including one from
the Inspector of the Park Police who observes :


It is noticeable that many cyclists are now overtaking the cars,
travelling above the speed limit.

The roadies won't be pleased ... good




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elyob wrote:

The roadies won't be pleased ... good


I guess we'll now get to see whether all those who avowed you couldn't be done
if you didn't have a speedo were right or not

Tony

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:22:54 +0100, "Tony Raven"
wrote:

elyob wrote:

The roadies won't be pleased ... good

I guess we'll now get to see whether all those who avowed you couldn't be done
if you didn't have a speedo were right or not

Not really, because the roadies have all got them.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain

I spoke to a road cop in the park just prior to the introduction of
the speed limit. He definately confirmed that they WOULD fine any
cyclist exceeding 20 mph. Mind you .......they'll have to catch us
first !!!!!!!!!!






Dave Kahn wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:22:54 +0100, "Tony Raven"
wrote:

elyob wrote:

The roadies won't be pleased ... good

I guess we'll now get to see whether all those who avowed you couldn't be done
if you didn't have a speedo were right or not

Not really, because the roadies have all got them.

On 29/6/04 5:18 pm, in article
, "Paul"
wrote:

I spoke to a road cop in the park just prior to the introduction of
the speed limit. He definately confirmed that they WOULD fine any
cyclist exceeding 20 mph. Mind you .......they'll have to catch us
first !!!!!!!!!!

I got stopped by a parks police officer for riding off road in the park.
Gave me a telling off and not to do it again.

That was in about 1985 or so..

...d

"Paul" wrote in message
m...
I spoke to a road cop in the park just prior to the introduction of
the speed limit. He definately confirmed that they WOULD fine any
cyclist exceeding 20 mph. Mind you .......they'll have to catch us
first !!!!!!!!!!

You're lucky! Here it's 20kph and 10kph in an effing off-leash area for
dogs!
Graham

On 29 Jun 2004 09:18:51 -0700, (Paul) wrote in
message :

I spoke to a road cop in the park just prior to the introduction of
the speed limit. He definately confirmed that they WOULD fine any
cyclist exceeding 20 mph.

20 +/- what? And measured with what?

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On 29 Jun 2004 09:18:51 -0700, (Paul) wrote in
message :

I spoke to a road cop in the park just prior to the introduction of
the speed limit. He definately confirmed that they WOULD fine any
cyclist exceeding 20 mph.

20 +/- what? And measured with what?


Measured by the cop car doing 20mph behind and the roadies zooming away!
Tht'a enough evidence to convict for speeding.

a mate was stopped on the Tamsin trail a while ago (gravel cycle track
around the park limit 15mph) and told to watch his speed by a park policeman
who had clocked his speed from the park road and followed him to richmond
gate where the track crosses the road.

pk

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:03:06 +0000 (UTC), "PK"
wrote in message
:

20 +/- what? And measured with what?

Measured by the cop car doing 20mph behind and the roadies zooming away!
Tht'a enough evidence to convict for speeding.

But 20 +/- what? Surely the limts of speedometer error are such that
prosecuting for speeds below, say, 25mph, would be problematic? And
how many people are going faster than that? And if the cyclists are
overtaking the cars, how can the "cop car" pace them? And how many
"cop cars" have speedometers calibrrated for offences at 20mph? And
how many will be interested in a Parks matter?

I find the whole thing baffling, given that the practical limit of
most bikes in that context is only going to be a few mph above 20
anyway!

Guy
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