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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
"jjpsych" wrote in message om... I was watching this incident (and the replays) and it looked like Beloki overheated his rear wheel and rolled off the tire. Does any one know if he uses clinchers or tubulars? It seems that Lance said something about Beloki was hard on the brakes and then the tire came off. Any definitative word from the team about the cause? There is a pretty good still photo on cyclingnews... http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?...i-armstrong-33 It doesn't look like the tire is off the rim. From the coverage I saw it appeared he locked up the rear, it began to slide to his left and then it caught sending the bike back the other way, where the rear wheel caught again and high-sided Beloki but good. Wade |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
jjpsych wrote in message . .. I was watching this incident (and the replays) and it looked like Beloki overheated his rear wheel and rolled off the tire. Does any one know if he uses clinchers or tubulars? Doesn't everyone in the TdF and other road races use clinchers? Or so I thought. |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
"Edward Waffle" wrote in message ... jjpsych wrote in message . .. I was watching this incident (and the replays) and it looked like Beloki overheated his rear wheel and rolled off the tire. Does any one know if he uses clinchers or tubulars? Doesn't everyone in the TdF and other road races use clinchers? Or so I thought. My guess: 80% of the tyres in the Tour are tubulars. |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
In article 0TKQa.55574$GL4.14409@rwcrnsc53, Ken Papai
wrote: "Edward Waffle" wrote in message ... jjpsych wrote in message . .. I was watching this incident (and the replays) and it looked like Beloki overheated his rear wheel and rolled off the tire. Does any one know if he uses clinchers or tubulars? Doesn't everyone in the TdF and other road races use clinchers? Or so I thought. My guess: 80% of the tyres in the Tour are tubulars. As Frankie Andreau said not too long ago... "Race on clinchers? No way!" -WG |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
In article , Kurgan
Gringioni wrote: "warren" wrote in message ... In article 0TKQa.55574$GL4.14409@rwcrnsc53, Ken Papai wrote: "Edward Waffle" wrote in message ... jjpsych wrote in message . .. I was watching this incident (and the replays) and it looked like Beloki overheated his rear wheel and rolled off the tire. Does any one know if he uses clinchers or tubulars? Doesn't everyone in the TdF and other road races use clinchers? Or so I thought. My guess: 80% of the tyres in the Tour are tubulars. As Frankie Andreau said not too long ago... "Race on clinchers? No way!" I wouldn't either if I had mechanics and sponsors who took care of the expense and hassle. Easy, even for you. Conti Sprinters for about $40 each (CriteriumUSA). Use FasTak $8/tube, less than two tubes per season. I use about 3 tires for every 25-30 criteriums including about 5-10 days of track racing on the front tire. Glue them at the beginning of the season and glue maybe two more tires when the rear one(s) wears out. More trouble than clinchers but not that much more trouble for racing. -WG |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
Amit wrote:
(jjpsych) wrote in message . com... I was watching this incident (and the replays) and it looked like Beloki overheated his rear wheel and rolled off the tire. Does any one know if he uses clinchers or tubulars? It seems that Lance said something about Beloki was hard on the brakes and then the tire came off. Any definitative word from the team about the cause? Beloki locked up his rear wheel in a curve. If you're doing 60 kph when you do that you will go down, regardless of equipement. This wasn't an equipment failure, it was pilot error on Beloki's part. -Amit Looked to me like he choked the FRONT brake causing the rear wheel to come around. It was off the ground. At which point he choked it even more and the rear wheel when around the other side even more, high-siding him. I've been unable to see any evidence of a tire off the rim. On the tubular issue--since I've been going back and forth recentlyy, tubs still ride better, smoother, and I still feel more confident in corners on them. I think it's due to their sideways flexibility. They just seem to grip better. Also, they really don't cost any more; you can spend just as much or more on clinchers. And one other thing: if you ride them a lot, you find they flat about half as often as clinchers. My 2¢. Schenker |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:10:33 GMT, Brian Phillips wrote:
In this photo http://www.velonews.com/images/details/4520.5461.f.jpg it looks like Beloki has a clincher rim. Enlarged, brightened at http://www.phys.uu.nl/~dronkert/cycl...ki14072003.jpg |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
"Ewoud Dronkert" wrote in message news On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:10:33 GMT, Brian Phillips wrote: In this photo http://www.velonews.com/images/details/4520.5461.f.jpg it looks like Beloki has a clincher rim. Enlarged, brightened at http://www.phys.uu.nl/~dronkert/cycl...ki14072003.jpg Thanks. This same photo was used on the front page of our newspaper's sports section and it is clear the tire is off the rim. I would say this was a result of the crash and not the cause. Beloki starts to skid before he began to turn. Typically you roll a tire in the corner. I think the second time the rear wheel caught, high-siding Beloki, there was enough force to pull some of the tire off the rim. Wade |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
"Ken Papai" wrote in message news:0TKQa.55574$GL4.14409@rwcrnsc53... "Edward Waffle" wrote in message ... jjpsych wrote in message . .. I was watching this incident (and the replays) and it looked like Beloki overheated his rear wheel and rolled off the tire. Does any one know if he uses clinchers or tubulars? Doesn't everyone in the TdF and other road races use clinchers? Or so I thought. My guess: 80% of the tyres in the Tour are tubulars. I'm not sure it is that high anymore. Maybe about 50% tubular these days? Suppose it shifts from year to year depending on how many Michelin sponsored teams are in the race. Wade |
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Did Beloki roll off his real tire?
Edward- Doesn't everyone in the TdF and other road races use clinchers? Or
so I thought. BRBR Either Phil or Paul mentioned that most teams still use tubies and they are correct. Tubie rims and tires are still plentiful, well made and not expensive, Mavic Velocity Ambrosio Vittoria Veloflex Conti Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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