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CTC - the premier campaigning uselessness for UK cyclists
Trevor A Panther wrote:
Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC. It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues CTC has District Associations, part of CTC, which are, pretty much by definition, interested in local issues. It's rather disingenuous IMHO to try and pretend head office and local branches are nothing to do with one another. If I had a local cycling issue I wanted to talk about I'd probably start with Tayside DA. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Ian Jackson wrote:
Yes, I am. Do I have to give my membership number when I email them ? It doesn't suggest on their website that I should. It seems the obvious thing to do. Any membership organisation will (and should IMO) give priority to its members. As you saw, the first paragraph of my email was a summary. I didn't find enough detail in their to decide on the merits of the case. Why make it hard for people? Arthur -- Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting - Milan Kundera |
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CTC - the premier campaigning uselessness for UK cyclists
burtthebike wrote:
"Trevor A Panther" wrote in message . uk... Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC. It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local issues, with or without inverted commas. The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically. Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner? I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them. It's all well and good doing things in private, but it's not a good way to get or keep members. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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Ekul Namsob wrote:
burtthebike wrote: "Trevor A Panther" wrote in message . uk... Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC. It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local issues, with or without inverted commas. The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically. Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner? I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them. The article in today's CTC magazine seems to show that they were a bit swan like during that period. |
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"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i5403b.998lxw1e2i3o0N%notmyaddress.1.ekulnam ... burtthebike wrote: "Trevor A Panther" wrote in message . uk... Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC. It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local issues, with or without inverted commas. The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically. Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner? I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them. Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you do? |
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burtthebike wrote:
"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i5403b.998lxw1e2i3o0N%notmyaddress.1.ekulnam ... I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them. Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you do? I wrote to my MP and signed the online petition. This being a parliamentary democracy, it's just possible that pressure from MPs helped to change the Code. What about you? Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i546dw.1pwxifb1csox1pN%notmyaddress.1.ekulna ... burtthebike wrote: "Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i5403b.998lxw1e2i3o0N%notmyaddress.1.ekulnam ... I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them. Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you do? I wrote to my MP and signed the online petition. This being a parliamentary democracy, it's just possible that pressure from MPs helped to change the Code. What about you? Cheers, Luke Well Luke, like you I wrote to my MP, and signed the online petition, but I did so in response to the request from the CTC, which organised the action opposing the the godawful new rules in the highway code. Why did you write and sign the petition? I wonder if it's because someone from the CTC told you about it? Or perhaps it was just coincidence? |
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"burtthebike" wrote in message .uk... "Trevor A Panther" wrote in message . uk... Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC. It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local issues, with or without inverted commas. The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically. Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner? Since Trevor himself won't respond, I think we can deduce that the first is not true, but the second is. Anyone who expects a membership organisation to take action for non-members and then complains that they don't has not been circumcised* *a complete prick. |
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"marc" wrote in message ... Ekul Namsob wrote: burtthebike wrote: "Trevor A Panther" wrote in message . uk... Let's be basic. CTC will only promote CTC. It is totally self sustaining and not interested in "local" issues Let's actually be truthful: local CTC sections are interested in local issues, with or without inverted commas. The CTC promotes cycling generally, and the CTC specifically. Are you a member Trevor, or just a moaner? I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them. The article in today's CTC magazine seems to show that they were a bit swan like during that period. "Swan like"???????? please elucidate |
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burtthebike wrote:
"Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i546dw.1pwxifb1csox1pN%notmyaddress.1.ekulna ... burtthebike wrote: "Ekul Namsob" wrote in message news:1i5403b.998lxw1e2i3o0N%notmyaddress.1.ekulnam ... I wouldn't wish to speak for Trevor, but when I was considering joining the CTC this spring, their complete failure to do anything public about the Highway Code was enough to make me decide not to join them. Not doing anything? so that's why it was changed then. And what did you do? I wrote to my MP and signed the online petition. This being a parliamentary democracy, it's just possible that pressure from MPs helped to change the Code. Well Luke, like you I wrote to my MP, and signed the online petition, but I did so in response to the request from the CTC, which organised the action opposing the the godawful new rules in the highway code. Did they? You may like to look at what Google Groups has to show on this group from this spring. http://preview.tinyurl.com/3dvoh9 As I recall, the CTC in its newsnet of 30/03/07, reported on this group, announced: "We will be considering how best to respond. We urge members to 'hold fire' for the moment". That was the last they announced for a good five or six weeks. This despite the fact that, as it then stood, the draft HC would have coerced cyclists to use farcilities. Why did you write and sign the petition? I wonder if it's because someone from the CTC told you about it? Or perhaps it was just coincidence? Bearing in mind what I have quoted from the CTC above, it's unlikely to have had anything to do with them. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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