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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey
in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.) Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past. It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own time over it. |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote:
Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.) Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past. It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own time over it. Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic crossing the entrances to those driveways. You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story. [* Those moving in and out of driveways nevertheless usually choose not to assert their priority, but that does not diminish their right to do so if they feel like.] |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote: Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.) Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past. It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own time over it. Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic crossing the entrances to those driveways. Rubbish. You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story. It is a true story. |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote: Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.) Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past. It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own time over it. Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic crossing the entrances to those driveways. Rubbish. Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it). You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for preferring the carriageway. You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story. It is a true story. Yeah, right. |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 04/05/18 23:47, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote: On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote: Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.) Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past. It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own time over it. Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic crossing the entrances to those driveways. Rubbish. Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it). You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for preferring the carriageway. Nobody was riding a bike on the footway. Which bit of "causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back" did you fail to comprehend? You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story. It is a true story. Yeah, right. So I was right, drivers can do no wrong in your eyes. |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 05/05/2018 11:38, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/05/18 23:47, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote: On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote: Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.) Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past. It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own time over it. Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic crossing the entrances to those driveways. Rubbish. Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it). You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for preferring the carriageway. Nobody was riding a bike on the footway. That does not matter. The fact that cyclists are under a duty to give way at such locations is merely an indication that all users of the route are under the same obligation. The rules are not different for cyclists (though cyclists often behave as though they are). Which bit of "causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back" did you fail to comprehend? That happens every day. Every minute, in fact, when pedestrians fail to recognise priority of other modes (in certain situations). I've done it myself as a pedestrian. So have you. And I've seen countless examples of adults pushing prams, etc, where they push the pram out into the carriageway whilst waiting for passing traffic to... er... pass. People do the daftest things Sometimes it's becuause they don't know the rules. You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story. It is a true story. Yeah, right. So I was right, drivers can do no wrong in your eyes. People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a bike, in a car, etc. You knew that. That's why bikes on footways have to give way at every driveway. |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 05/05/2018 14:40, JNugent wrote:
On 05/05/2018 11:38, TMS320 wrote: On 04/05/18 23:47, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2018 23:21, TMS320 wrote: On 04/05/18 23:12, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2018 22:01, TMS320 wrote: Today this cyclist was in my car because it was suitable for the journey in hand - another errand today was suitable for the bike. I was in a stop start queue when a non-cylist in a panzer suddenly barged out of a driveway causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back and then blocked the pavement. Luckily it wasn't an elderly pedestrian that could have fallen backwards - like my mother-in-law a few years ago. (Oh, hang on, it is supposed to be impossible for licenced, registered, taxed and insured non-cyclists to do this. But if it turns out to be not impossible, being licenced, registered, taxed and insured somehow makes it alright.) Anyway, rather than opening a gap to let the non-cyclist out, as usual courtesy in a queue, this cyclist moved forward with the queue to block her way. I felt no need to use my horn to scream at the non-cyclist, because the ears of the woman and child were not protected by layers of German steel andinsulation. Said non-cyclist then reversed back to let the woman past. It's always good to upset a non-cyclist without consuming any of my own time over it. Vehicles entering and exiting driveways have priority* over traffic crossing the entrances to those driveways. Rubbish. Don't be stupid (assuming you can help it). You know as well as everyone else that cyclists using footway cycling facilities are under a duty to give way to proper traffic at every driveway entrance. This is often given as one of the reasons for preferring the carriageway. Nobody was riding a bike on the footway. That does not matter. The fact that cyclists are under a duty to give way at such locations is merely an indication that all users of the route are under the same obligation. The rules are not different for cyclists (though cyclists often behave as though they are). Which bit of "causing a woman with a pushchair to take a step back" did you fail to comprehend? That happens every day. Every minute, in fact, when pedestrians fail to recognise priority of other modes (in certain situations). I've done it myself as a pedestrian. So have you. And I've seen countless examples of adults pushing prams, etc, where they push the pram out into the carriageway whilst waiting for passing traffic to... er... pass. People do the daftest things Sometimes it's becuause they don't know the rules. You knew that but chose to ignore it when making up your story. It is a true story. Yeah, right. So I was right, drivers can do no wrong in your eyes. People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a bike, in a car, etc. You knew that. That's why bikes on footways have to give way at every driveway. If it is a footway exclusively then the bicycle should be pushed, not ridden. |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 05/05/18 14:40, JNugent wrote:
People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a bike, in a car, etc. Quote the statute. If you are able to then it is a bad law. You knew that. If it exists, it is trumped by a requirement for a driver to always have a duty of care. Barging out and causing a pedestrian to step back is lack of care. |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 06/05/18 23:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/05/18 14:40, JNugent wrote: People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a bike, in a car, etc. Quote the statute. If you are able to then it is a bad law. You are active because have replied to another thread since my request. Nothing to support your idea? |
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Thoughtful non-cyclist of the day
On 07/05/2018 08:55, TMS320 wrote:
On 06/05/18 23:12, TMS320 wrote: On 05/05/18 14:40, JNugent wrote: People crossing across a properly laid-out footway crossing between a driveway and the carriageway have the priority, whether they're on a Â* bike, in a car, etc. Quote the statute. If you are able to then it is a bad law. You are active because have replied to another thread since my request. Nothing to support your idea? What are you talking about? |
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