Ken Bird

"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
...
in message , JohnB ')
wrote:

He recalled his times as a mechanic on the Tour
de France when he accompanied some of the earliest British riders to
compete. Later he was a great supporter of road-records with his
trade-mark white frames with black decals. I think E2E'er Woodburn
rode one of his tandems with Patson in many record attempts.

When I was a kid in Kirkcudbright the bike shop was kept by a man called
Wullie Law. He was patient and informative and taught me a great deal
of what I know about fixing bikes. The shop is still there, now run by
his grand-daughter, and still sells a few bikes. It wasn't until long
after the old man was dead that I was told that he'd ridden the Tour. I
still don't know how to verify whether this is true. But if it is I'm
even more astounded by how modest a man he was.

So he rode the Tour. So what. If he was modest about it he had it right. It
is something to be modest about. All this hoopla about the Tour is total
insanity. It is disgusting the way some cyclists carry on about the g.d.
Tour. After all, it is a French thing and we all know what the French are
worth -traitors to Western Civilization.

What the French do best is stab others in the back. Any praise for the Tour
sickens me as does any reflection on the nation of France. They are a nation
of whores and were in bed with Sadaam Hussein. Please, spare me any crapolla
about the ****ing Tour.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

David Hansen wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:36:14 -0600 someone who may be "Edward Dolan"
wrote this:-

So he rode the Tour. So what. If he was modest about it he had it right. It
is something to be modest about. All this hoopla about the Tour is total
insanity. It is disgusting the way some cyclists carry on about the g.d.
Tour.

Making a few assumptions, in the days of the grandfather mentioned
by the other person it was not the mass media event it is now. There
were no backup vans full of bikes. Take a look at photographs of
people riding with spare inner tubes round their necks and imagine
what it was like.

One guy early on was disqualified after admitting that he got a child to
work the bellows while he fixed his forks at a smithy. No assistance was
allowed of any kind.

--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
"Living in a jungle, living in a tent. Better than a prefab - no rent."

Keith Willoughby wrote:

One guy early on was disqualified after admitting that he got a child
to work the bellows while he fixed his forks at a smithy. No
assistance was allowed of any kind.

Eugene Christophe. He wasn't disqualified, just given an extra time
penalty to add to the time he'd spent walking 14k to the blacksmith,
then repairing his forks at the forge.

It was his name on the superb springy toe clips that dominated the
market for decades.

--
Dave...

in message . com,
dkahn400 ') wrote:

Keith Willoughby wrote:

One guy early on was disqualified after admitting that he got a child
to work the bellows while he fixed his forks at a smithy. No
assistance was allowed of any kind.

Eugene Christophe. He wasn't disqualified, just given an extra time
penalty to add to the time he'd spent walking 14k to the blacksmith,
then repairing his forks at the forge.

It was his name on the superb springy toe clips that dominated the
market for decades.

H'mmm! I still have a pair of those. Was it actually his firm, or did he
sell his name to someone?

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

'Victories are not solutions.'
;; John Hume, Northern Irish politician, on Radio Scotland 1/2/95
;; Nobel Peace Prize laureate 1998; few have deserved it so much

"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:48:59 -0600 someone who may be "Edward Dolan"
wrote this:-

I would never bother to read any of this liberal propaganda and
essentially
treasonous rubbish.

How do you know that if you don't bother to read it?

You must think I was born yesterday.

I have no thoughts on the matter.

Thanks for the good laugh!

How can you laugh at something you say you have not read.

I am laughing at your foolishness at thinking I would be stupid enough to
read anything a liberal like you would recommend to me.

You Brits have all been brainwashed by the BBC and the rest of your news
media. What else do I have to know? I do know that most of you on this
newsgroup (uk.rec.cycling)) do not deserve to have a great man like Tony
Blair as your PM. You deserve a Chirac.

The BBC is excellent for music (classical), but you never want to listen to
their analysis of the news. That is how empires are lost. You do not ever
want to lie with the French either - a fate worse than death. They are all
whores and will give you terrible diseases which will eat away at your groin
and rot your brain.

If any of you in the UK are starting to get the idea that we Americans do
not appreciate la belle France, then you are up to speed. However, if you
think that la belle France was ever right or moral about anything in the
past century or so, then it is back to the idiot bin with you. May you stay
there forever and not bother us Americans further with positive opinions on
la belle France.

My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading references in
the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind is a steel bear trap
and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous liberal propaganda.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:

My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
liberal propaganda.

And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which serve
to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.

But then we knew that.

--

McTavish the Unmentionable

"McTavish" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:

My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
liberal propaganda.

And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which
serve
to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.

I do not need to keep reviewing unmitigated liberal rot and rubbish forever
to know what I think about something. Show me an open mind and I will show
you no mind at all.

But then we knew that.

Well, I think we know that McTavish is an asshole. Is there anything else we
need to know about him. I have an open mind on that, but I only want to hear
bad things about him. My mind is CLOSED to anything good about him. See how
easy it is to make up your mind.

Has anyone in the entire history of the world ever had anything good to say
about the Scotch. They rank right along with the French for all around
assholeness.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

McTavish wrote:

Edward Dolan wrote:


My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
liberal propaganda.


And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which serve
to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.

But then we knew that.

One day a lonely Minnesota troll was sitting under his bridge feeling
quite bored. Then he discovered Usenet cycling forums.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:53:49 -0600, Tom Sherman wrote:

McTavish wrote:

Edward Dolan wrote:


My mind is made up on the matter and all the contrary reading
references in the world are not going to change it one bit. My mind
is a steel bear trap and it is CLOSED. It is impervious to treasonous
liberal propaganda.


And also to rational argument, logic and plenty of other things which serve
to distinguish an intelligent person from a narrow-minded bigot.

But then we knew that.

One day a lonely Minnesota troll was sitting under his bridge feeling
quite bored. Then he discovered Usenet cycling forums.

And Usenet cycling forums have been unhappy ever since.

Boy Ed,

You sure seem to have it in for the French. I don't think most Americans
hated them so much when they helped you win your war of indepenence from
Britain. But that was some time ago now wasn't it. We (in Canada) have our
own issues with the French. It's called French-Canadians. Even the French
don't like them. It's the main reason we want to decriminalize marijuana.

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
...
in message , JohnB ')
wrote:

He recalled his times as a mechanic on the Tour
de France when he accompanied some of the earliest British riders to
compete. Later he was a great supporter of road-records with his
trade-mark white frames with black decals. I think E2E'er Woodburn
rode one of his tandems with Patson in many record attempts.

When I was a kid in Kirkcudbright the bike shop was kept by a man called
Wullie Law. He was patient and informative and taught me a great deal
of what I know about fixing bikes. The shop is still there, now run by
his grand-daughter, and still sells a few bikes. It wasn't until long
after the old man was dead that I was told that he'd ridden the Tour. I
still don't know how to verify whether this is true. But if it is I'm
even more astounded by how modest a man he was.

So he rode the Tour. So what. If he was modest about it he had it right.
It is something to be modest about. All this hoopla about the Tour is
total insanity. It is disgusting the way some cyclists carry on about the
g.d. Tour. After all, it is a French thing and we all know what the French
are worth -traitors to Western Civilization.

What the French do best is stab others in the back. Any praise for the
Tour sickens me as does any reflection on the nation of France. They are a
nation of whores and were in bed with Sadaam Hussein. Please, spare me any
crapolla about the ****ing Tour.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota