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Old March 21st 07, 12:36 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

Female POV about cycling in London, you should be able to read the text
using the (b) link ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elyob/428691688/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/4...be70ea54_b.jpg

Just a big double page spread about the Olympics with cycling the highlight
...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elyob/4...n/photostream/


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Old March 21st 07, 01:14 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

elyob wrote:

Female POV about cycling in London, you should be able to read the text
using the (b) link ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elyob/428691688/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/4...be70ea54_b.jpg


Thanks for posting these. I have no first hand experience of cycling in
London, so I can't make much comment on that.

As for the other points: typical lady journalist who needs to learn that not
all women are stereotypes who feel lost without a handbag and a pretty hat
and that not all men are aggressive, competitive and macho.

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Old March 21st 07, 08:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:36:10 -0000 someone who may be "elyob"
wrote this:-

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Is that what passes for journalism these days?

Some women (and some men) have beefy arms and enormous voices, but
it has nothing to do with whether they ride a bike or not. Plenty of
women who cycle have neither.

If the journalist finds not wearing heels a relief then why does she
wear them at any time? I have however seen women riding bikes in
high heels. Probably not a good idea for long distances, but they
didn't seem to have any difficulty for what looked like trips round
town.

Not sure what an "industrial key-chain" is. Cycle clips are only
necessary if wearing long flowing trousers if one doesn't want to
use socks to do the same thing.

Gloves and helmets should not be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only the former are a useful safety precaution.

Does the journalist not have a handbag with a zip or clasp?



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Old March 21st 07, 08:15 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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David Hansen wrote:


Is that what passes for journalism these days?

David, don't get too worked up about it.

What WOULD be good though if LCC were to offer to lend her a 'sit up and
beg' type bike (there's a shop in Fitzrovia which promotes Copenhagen
style bikes). Maybe if someone for LCC were to take her about for a day,
showing the better side of city cycling. Then have a follow up article.
Won't happen though.

But I will suggest it!
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Old March 21st 07, 09:20 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:06:58 +0000, David Hansen
wrote:

Gloves and helmets should not be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only the former are a useful safety precaution.


A helmet might keep pidgeon droppings out of an expensive hairdo.

Although I doubt it would still look like an expensive hairdo after she took the
helmet off.

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Old March 21st 07, 09:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

John Hearns wrote on 21/03/2007 08:15 +0100:
David Hansen wrote:


Is that what passes for journalism these days?

David, don't get too worked up about it.

What WOULD be good though if LCC were to offer to lend her a 'sit up and
beg' type bike (there's a shop in Fitzrovia which promotes Copenhagen
style bikes). Maybe if someone for LCC were to take her about for a day,
showing the better side of city cycling. Then have a follow up article.


Don't forget the wicker basket to drop the handbag into ;-)

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Old March 21st 07, 09:57 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

On 21 Mar, 09:20, (Ziggy) wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:06:58 +0000, David Hansen

wrote:
Gloves and helmets should not be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only the former are a useful safety precaution.


A helmet might keep pidgeon droppings out of an expensive hairdo.

Although I doubt it would still look like an expensive hairdo after she took the
helmet off.


The Evading Standards is a crap paper.

IMO they've been caught on the hop by the explosive popularity of
cycling over the last two years and so one of their editors has
commissioned what he thinks is a pro-cycling article.

"Giving way to pedestrians is for fools"

What garbage, I bet Catherine Shoard hasn't even ridden a bike.

It's insulting to women and cyclists at the same time, only to be
expected from that Daily Mail lite rag, the same paper that carries
quotes from barking mad anti-speed camera loons and, I swear this is
true, carried an advert on the This Is London website for something
called Plate Spray which was guaranteed to make your registration
plate impossible for traffic cameras to read! (Forgetting the fact
that such stuff is illegal and doesn't work).

"On the mean streets of Kensington you are laughed at for slowing
down"

AArrrgh!!

Catherine Shoard, you are a very silly person and what's more you look
like a builder whether on a bike or not.


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Old March 21st 07, 10:08 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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In article , elyob
writes
Female POV about cycling in London, you should be able to read the text
using the (b) link ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elyob/428691688/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/4...be70ea54_b.jpg

Just a big double page spread about the Olympics with cycling the highlight
..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elyob/4...n/photostream/


Her experience of women cycling in London is at odds with mine. On my
regular commute up and down the King's Road I notice many evidently
female cyclists (and not just because they often have the saddle
adjusted too low). Covering up for winter does camouflage them to a
degree, though.

As for heels, I used to work with a freelance designer (an Aussie) who
made no concessions to cycling to work, apart from wearing a helmet -
she often arrived decked in high fashion gear, including heels.
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Old March 21st 07, 11:48 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:08:29 +0000, congokid
wrote:

In article , elyob
writes
Female POV about cycling in London, you should be able to read the text
using the (b) link ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elyob/428691688/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/4...be70ea54_b.jpg

Just a big double page spread about the Olympics with cycling the highlight
..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elyob/4...n/photostream/


Her experience of women cycling in London is at odds with mine. On my
regular commute up and down the King's Road I notice many evidently
female cyclists (and not just because they often have the saddle
adjusted too low). Covering up for winter does camouflage them to a
degree, though.

As for heels, I used to work with a freelance designer (an Aussie) who
made no concessions to cycling to work, apart from wearing a helmet -
she often arrived decked in high fashion gear, including heels.


Wearing a helmet _is_ a concession to fashion, not cycling.
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Old March 21st 07, 12:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Two articles in London's Evening Standard

in message , David Hansen
') wrote:

If the journalist finds not wearing heels a relief then why does she
wear them at any time? I have however seen women riding bikes in
high heels. Probably not a good idea for long distances, but they
didn't seem to have any difficulty for what looked like trips round
town.


To be honest, cyclists' road racing shoes are pretty much like high heels
without the heel. They have similarly rigid soles and put your foot into a
similarly arched position. The duck like walk which you have when you try
to walk in them is a result of that, and a stiletto heel would probably
make them easier to walk in. It doesn't seem to me in the least impossible
to have a 'high fashion' cycling show for women with an SPD-style recessed
cleat under the ball of the foot, and a high heel; it would be comfortable
to ride in and at least as comfortable to walk in as any other high heel.

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