Wheels and tires

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:27:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can activate national guards and take other measures (like all the shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part, which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone jobs. Living in
your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas originating on Fox
News or popping up spontaneously in some other damaged brain. With no
public officials and very few individuals even pretending to respect
you, just because of a total lack of appropriate education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!


--
- Frank Krygowski

Wish I lived in Oakland.

Actual pictures from today's ride: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9uc9nSG7htEBqL2b6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CE6SrxGpaUUYpfq37

Crown Point was shut down because of COVID-19, and when I shot the first photo from Portland Woman's Forum (which is also shut down), a cop busted me and my riding buddy for being in the park when it was closed. We acted contrite, and he let us go.

My buddy is in shape, and I'm not. He throttled me yesterday, and then we rode out to the Gorge today into a 20-30mph headwind. I was fried, and if we didn't have a tail wind home, I would have called Uber. About 100K RT, and the most convenient route, the Springwater Corridor, was a conga line again. It was like the Bridge Pedal and the Portland Marathon put together, if the Portland Marathon had a bunch of fat slackers in it. I can't wait until the virus thing is over.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski writes:

On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the
agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage
strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't
restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of
impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of
it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors
are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures
are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering
economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and
logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national
disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a
coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and
international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of
respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can
activate national guards and take other measures (like all the
shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all
the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize
industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either
deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John
Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply
chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike
Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part,
which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and
not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean
correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would
have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your
firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets
and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and
maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone jobs. Living
in your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas originating on
Fox News or popping up spontaneously in some other damaged brain. With
no public officials and very few individuals even pretending to
respect you, just because of a total lack of appropriate education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our lives. As
Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy until he is dead". Perhaps,
just perhaps, a touch of humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd have
the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present condition a
failure.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 4/5/2020 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski writes:

On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie
wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi
wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from
China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed
witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA
and all the
agencies that provide emergency response. Congress
does not manage
strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries.
It can't
restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the
face of
impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to
do -- much of
it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The
governors
are running the show through executive orders, and the
legislatures
are providing funding and a legal frame work for
delivering
economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with
messaging and
logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie
Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments
about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots
doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which
are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few
years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to
national
disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that
help with a
coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict
national and
international travel. They cannot coordinate the
nation's supply of
respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the
coasts. They can
activate national guards and take other measures (like
all the
shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines
or do all
the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize
industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most
agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera
either
deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we
got John
Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together,
secure supply
chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head
-- Mike
Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and
act the part,
which is something he can't do -- so he should out
source it and
not extemporize in front of the camera about
Chloroquine or mean
correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of
staff would
have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for
your
firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive
bicycles, framesets
and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same
thing and
maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find
yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone
jobs. Living
in your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your
neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without
complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a
socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a
communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to
install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas
originating on
Fox News or popping up spontaneously in some other
damaged brain. With
no public officials and very few individuals even
pretending to
respect you, just because of a total lack of appropriate
education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our
lives. As
Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy until he is
dead". Perhaps,
just perhaps, a touch of humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's
position. But speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's
position, I hope I'd have the sense to _not_ call someone in
my, or Jay's, present condition a failure.


Possibly equal to Mr McNamara, I have way too much
experience with functional (but annoying) mental/psych
sufferers. I know Mr Kunich. And thus ignore much of his
commentary.

Just as it's not necessary to engage in retorts to a
Tourettes with a flat. It's only necessary to change the
tire. I've had many outwardly obnoxious regular steady
customers over the years, for whom the rant and vindictive
shouts can be safely ignored until you figure out what's
wrong with the bike. Mr Kunich does have a varied background
and curiosity in a broad range but, yes, goes beyond the
pale in his color commentary.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:07:03 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:25:32 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/5/2020 12:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can activate national guards and take other measures (like all the shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part, which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are. Especially someone who believes that FDR was a good man.



uh, Tom, do read a newspaper at all? Sheesh, wake up, man.

What with various entities including States and now the
President calling for abrogation of contract terms in favor
of the insureds, I assume attorneys with an insurance
background are highly sought and well paid. As they should be!

Business is f****** booming. I just got a nice hourly rate increase from a favorite client, too. The only reason I post is because I take breaks from writing briefs, coverage opinions, etc. Court is closed for the most part, and all my trial dates -- like taxes -- have been put off. We have not laid off a single worker, most of whom are working from home. We might suffer in some way, but nothing yet.

-- Jay Beattie.

Right Jay, right. That's why you post within seconds of any other postings. Writing in briefs isn't the same as writing briefs.

What would you know about the latter, and the two are not mutually exclusive -- not these days. I attended a Zoom conference via telephone on Friday because I didn't want to shave for the camera.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 4/5/2020 9:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/5/2020 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski writes:

On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie
wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi
wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from
China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed
witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA
and all the
agencies that provide emergency response.Â* Congress
does not manage
strategic reserves.Â* It can't nationalize industries.
It can't
restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the
face of
impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to
do -- much of
it logistical. The same is true on a state level.Â* The
governors
are running the show through executive orders, and the
legislatures
are providing funding and a legal frame work for
delivering
economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with
messaging and
logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie
Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments
about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots
doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which
are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few
years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no.Â* Governors are not equipped to respond to
national
disasters.Â* That's why we have federal agencies that
help with a
coordinated response.Â* Governors cannot restrict
national and
international travel. They cannot coordinate the
nation's supply of
respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the
coasts.Â* They can
activate national guards and take other measures (like
all the
shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines
or do all
the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize
industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most
agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera
either
deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we
got John
Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan.Â* Pull the team together,
secure supply
chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head
-- Mike
Esper would have been a good choice.Â* Be serious and
act the part,
which is something he can't do -- so he should out
source it and
not extemporize in front of the camera about
Chloroquine or mean
correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of
staff would
have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for
your
firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive
bicycles, framesets
and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same
thing and
maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find
yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone
jobs. Living
in your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your
neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without
complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a
socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a
communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to
install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas
originating on
Fox News or popping up spontaneously in some other
damaged brain. With
no public officials and very few individuals even
pretending to
respect you, just because of a total lack of appropriate
education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our
lives.Â* As
Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy until he is
dead".Â* Perhaps,
just perhaps, a touch of humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's
position. But speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's
position, I hope I'd have the sense to _not_ call someone in
my, or Jay's, present condition a failure.


Possibly equal toÂ* Mr McNamara, I have way too much experience with
functional (but annoying) mental/psych sufferers. I know Mr Kunich.Â* And
thus ignore much of his commentary.

Just as it's not necessary to engage in retorts to a Tourettes with a
flat. It's only necessary to change the tire.Â* I've had many outwardly
obnoxious regular steady customers over the years, for whom the rant and
vindictive shouts can be safely ignored until you figure out what's
wrong with the bike. Mr Kunich does have a varied background and
curiosity in a broad range but, yes, goes beyond the pale in his color
commentary.

OK, that showed some wisdom.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 22:04:32 -0400,
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 9:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/5/2020 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:

[big snip]

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our
lives.?? As Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy
until he is dead".?? Perhaps, just perhaps, a touch of
humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position.
But speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position,
I hope I'd have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or
Jay's, present condition a failure.

Possibly equal to?? Mr McNamara, I have way too much
experience with functional (but annoying) mental/psych
sufferers. I know Mr Kunich.?? And thus ignore much of his
commentary.

Just as it's not necessary to engage in retorts to a Tourettes
with a flat. It's only necessary to change the tire.?? I've
had many outwardly obnoxious regular steady customers over the
years, for whom the rant and vindictive shouts can be safely
ignored until you figure out what's wrong with the bike. Mr
Kunich does have a varied background and curiosity in a broad
range but, yes, goes beyond the pale in his color commentary.

OK, that showed some wisdom.

Quite a lot, actually.

--
Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 5:48:53 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:27:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can activate national guards and take other measures (like all the shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part, which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone jobs. Living in
your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas originating on Fox
News or popping up spontaneously in some other damaged brain. With no
public officials and very few individuals even pretending to respect
you, just because of a total lack of appropriate education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!


--
- Frank Krygowski

Wish I lived in Oakland.

Actual pictures from today's ride: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9uc9nSG7htEBqL2b6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CE6SrxGpaUUYpfq37

Crown Point was shut down because of COVID-19, and when I shot the first photo from Portland Woman's Forum (which is also shut down), a cop busted me and my riding buddy for being in the park when it was closed. We acted contrite, and he let us go.

My buddy is in shape, and I'm not. He throttled me yesterday, and then we rode out to the Gorge today into a 20-30mph headwind. I was fried, and if we didn't have a tail wind home, I would have called Uber. About 100K RT, and the most convenient route, the Springwater Corridor, was a conga line again. It was like the Bridge Pedal and the Portland Marathon put together, if the Portland Marathon had a bunch of fat slackers in it. I can't wait until the virus thing is over.

Well, Mt. Tamalpias, Mt. Diablo or Mt. Hamilton all have climbs much higher from the looks of that, but the Columbia valley is very beautiful. And at least they try to make good wine there though I haven't found any I particularly like.

I think that they have those three hills closed down at present. I don't think that it is a good idea to go anywhere where I might have to call my brother to come and get me in a worst case scenario. His wife is a nurse that runs a diabetes clinic and anything will kill most of the people she handles.

Though I'm not thrilled about it, I do my 35 km ride until we get a turndown and businesses start opening again. Too many of the places I stop are filled with old people that don't look in the best of health.

I think that my covid was followed immediately by a mild cold.

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 5:58:59 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski writes:

On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the
agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage
strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't
restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of
impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of
it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors
are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures
are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering
economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and
logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national
disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a
coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and
international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of
respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can
activate national guards and take other measures (like all the
shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all
the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize
industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either
deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John
Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply
chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike
Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part,
which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and
not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean
correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would
have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your
firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets
and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and
maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone jobs. Living
in your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas originating on
Fox News or popping up spontaneously in some other damaged brain. With
no public officials and very few individuals even pretending to
respect you, just because of a total lack of appropriate education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our lives. As
Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy until he is dead". Perhaps,
just perhaps, a touch of humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd have
the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present condition a
failure.

--
- Frank Krygowski

I haven't called Jay a failure, just someone that hasn't worked really hard at his craft and so never achieved a great deal. You on the other hand do not appear to have been bright enough to teach children how to use a toilet.

On 4/6/2020 7:56 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 22:04:32 -0400,
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 9:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/5/2020 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:

[big snip]

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our
lives.?? As Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy
until he is dead".?? Perhaps, just perhaps, a touch of
humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position.
But speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position,
I hope I'd have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or
Jay's, present condition a failure.

Possibly equal to?? Mr McNamara, I have way too much
experience with functional (but annoying) mental/psych
sufferers. I know Mr Kunich.?? And thus ignore much of his
commentary.

Just as it's not necessary to engage in retorts to a Tourettes
with a flat. It's only necessary to change the tire.?? I've
had many outwardly obnoxious regular steady customers over the
years, for whom the rant and vindictive shouts can be safely
ignored until you figure out what's wrong with the bike. Mr
Kunich does have a varied background and curiosity in a broad
range but, yes, goes beyond the pale in his color commentary.

OK, that showed some wisdom.

Quite a lot, actually.

But I'll point out, the analogy is not perfect. (No analogy is really
perfect.) What's appropriate for dealing with a paying customer may not
be appropriate here, at the very least because of widely different
objectives of a discussion group vs. a pay-for-service shop.

Instead of a bike repair area, this forum is more akin to (say) a book
club meeting, or perhaps a Bible discussion group. Members are reading
more or less the same information, but may have different ideas on how
to interpret that information. In those face-to-face situations, it's
rare to have behavior problems. There are unwritten rules of civility.

In a book club, how would you deal with a member who was uncivil? Who
constantly ranted, called others names, bragged he was far smarter than
all the others, frequently changed the subject to return to his favorite
harangues, never admitted his most obvious mistakes, etc? (And this is
not even touching on our most dedicated troll, who barges in only to
hurl abuse and aggrandize himself.)

If one person ran and hosted the book club, they would stop allowing
such a person to attend. That's precisely why many internet forums
became moderated. But we don't have that.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:21:57 -0400,
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/6/2020 7:56 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 22:04:32 -0400,
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 9:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/5/2020 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:

[big snip]

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our
lives.?? As Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy
until he is dead".?? Perhaps, just perhaps, a touch of
humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's
position. But speaking of humility, if I did end up in
Tom's position, I hope I'd have the sense to _not_ call
someone in my, or Jay's, present condition a failure.

Possibly equal to?? Mr McNamara, I have way too much
experience with functional (but annoying) mental/psych
sufferers. I know Mr Kunich.?? And thus ignore much of his
commentary.

Just as it's not necessary to engage in retorts to a
Tourettes with a flat. It's only necessary to change the
tire.?? I've had many outwardly obnoxious regular steady
customers over the years, for whom the rant and vindictive
shouts can be safely ignored until you figure out what's
wrong with the bike. Mr Kunich does have a varied background
and curiosity in a broad range but, yes, goes beyond the
pale in his color commentary.

OK, that showed some wisdom.

Quite a lot, actually.

But I'll point out, the analogy is not perfect. (No analogy is
really perfect.) What's appropriate for dealing with a paying
customer may not be appropriate here, at the very least because
of widely different objectives of a discussion group vs. a
pay-for-service shop.

Sure, but ANdrew did mention other experience. Me, I find that
tolerance (when I can muster it) goes a long way toward my own
equanimity.


Instead of a bike repair area, this forum is more akin to (say)
a book club meeting, or perhaps a Bible discussion group.
Members are reading more or less the same information, but may
have different ideas on how to interpret that information. In
those face-to-face situations, it's rare to have behavior
problems. There are unwritten rules of civility.

In a book club, how would you deal with a member who was
uncivil? Who constantly ranted, called others names, bragged he
was far smarter than all the others, frequently changed the
subject to return to his favorite harangues, never admitted his
most obvious mistakes, etc? (And this is not even touching on
our most dedicated troll, who barges in only to hurl abuse and
aggrandize himself.)

If one person ran and hosted the book club, they would stop
allowing such a person to attend. That's precisely why many
internet forums became moderated. But we don't have that.

Well, this is another sub-optimal analogy. In a book club (I'm
assuming you're talking about an in-person gathering), there are
few options for avoiding uncivil inputs--though meditation comes
to mind. Here, we have other good options. For example, I rarely
read some posters, unless to see the points others I do read are
responding to. It's possible to go even further (think kill
files).

--
Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA