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Old April 6th 20, 05:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 4:04:34 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 9:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/5/2020 7:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 3:49 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski writes:

On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie
wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi
wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from
China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed
witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA
and all the
agencies that provide emergency response.Â* Congress
does not manage
strategic reserves.Â* It can't nationalize industries.
It can't
restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the
face of
impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to
do -- much of
it logistical. The same is true on a state level.Â* The
governors
are running the show through executive orders, and the
legislatures
are providing funding and a legal frame work for
delivering
economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with
messaging and
logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie
Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments
about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots
doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which
are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few
years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no.Â* Governors are not equipped to respond to
national
disasters.Â* That's why we have federal agencies that
help with a
coordinated response.Â* Governors cannot restrict
national and
international travel. They cannot coordinate the
nation's supply of
respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the
coasts.Â* They can
activate national guards and take other measures (like
all the
shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines
or do all
the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize
industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most
agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera
either
deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we
got John
Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan.Â* Pull the team together,
secure supply
chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head
-- Mike
Esper would have been a good choice.Â* Be serious and
act the part,
which is something he can't do -- so he should out
source it and
not extemporize in front of the camera about
Chloroquine or mean
correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of
staff would
have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for
your
firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive
bicycles, framesets
and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same
thing and
maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find
yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone
jobs. Living
in your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your
neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without
complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a
socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a
communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to
install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas
originating on
Fox News or popping up spontaneously in some other
damaged brain. With
no public officials and very few individuals even
pretending to
respect you, just because of a total lack of appropriate
education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our
lives.Â* As
Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy until he is
dead".Â* Perhaps,
just perhaps, a touch of humility might look good on you.

Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's
position. But speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's
position, I hope I'd have the sense to _not_ call someone in
my, or Jay's, present condition a failure.


Possibly equal toÂ* Mr McNamara, I have way too much experience with
functional (but annoying) mental/psych sufferers. I know Mr Kunich.Â* And
thus ignore much of his commentary.

Just as it's not necessary to engage in retorts to a Tourettes with a
flat. It's only necessary to change the tire.Â* I've had many outwardly
obnoxious regular steady customers over the years, for whom the rant and
vindictive shouts can be safely ignored until you figure out what's
wrong with the bike. Mr Kunich does have a varied background and
curiosity in a broad range but, yes, goes beyond the pale in his color
commentary.


OK, that showed some wisdom.

--
- Frank Krygowski


It took you quite some time to figure that out.

Lou
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  #222  
Old April 6th 20, 05:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 7:06:29 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 5:48:53 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:27:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:15:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can activate national guards and take other measures (like all the shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part, which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone jobs. Living in
your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas originating on Fox
News or popping up spontaneously in some other damaged brain. With no
public officials and very few individuals even pretending to respect
you, just because of a total lack of appropriate education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!


--
- Frank Krygowski


Wish I lived in Oakland.

Actual pictures from today's ride: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9uc9nSG7htEBqL2b6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CE6SrxGpaUUYpfq37

Crown Point was shut down because of COVID-19, and when I shot the first photo from Portland Woman's Forum (which is also shut down), a cop busted me and my riding buddy for being in the park when it was closed. We acted contrite, and he let us go.

My buddy is in shape, and I'm not. He throttled me yesterday, and then we rode out to the Gorge today into a 20-30mph headwind. I was fried, and if we didn't have a tail wind home, I would have called Uber. About 100K RT, and the most convenient route, the Springwater Corridor, was a conga line again. It was like the Bridge Pedal and the Portland Marathon put together, if the Portland Marathon had a bunch of fat slackers in it. I can't wait until the virus thing is over.


Well, Mt. Tamalpias, Mt. Diablo or Mt. Hamilton all have climbs much higher from the looks of that, but the Columbia valley is very beautiful. And at least they try to make good wine there though I haven't found any I particularly like.


That's the Columbia River Gorge and not the Columbia Valley (a region in Washington). In Oregon, wine grapes are grown in the Willamette Valley and Tualatin Valley (among other places) -- which is another favorite, close-in ride: https://d18d6vfm63ukth.cloudfront.ne.../davidhill.jpg (Tualatin Valley). Lots of little hills but nothing long.

Yes, Nor-Cal has some great climbs, and I miss Mt. Hamilton -- which I rode a bazillion times. It was close-in and convenient. For long climbs, I ride up to Timberline: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ80DybU8AAKM15.jpg, which is further out of town and more of an event. Sometimes I'll spend the night with my wife and do summer skiing. Total RT from my house is 120 miles, which is too far these days.

There are also some great gravel routes around Mt. Hood: https://ridewithgps.com/ambassador_r...ney-to-bennett Good luck with cell reception. I don't do those alone.

As for wine, note: https://willamettewines.com/wine-spe...amette-valley/

-- Jay Beattie.

  #223  
Old April 6th 20, 06:13 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Frank Krygowski writes:


On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:


On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the
agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage
strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't
restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of
impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of
it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors
are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures
are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering
economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and
logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national
disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a
coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and
international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of
respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can
activate national guards and take other measures (like all the
shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all
the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize
industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either
deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John
Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply
chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike
Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part,
which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and
not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean
correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would
have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your
firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets
and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and
maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone jobs. Living
in your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas originating on
Fox News or popping up spontaneously in some other damaged brain. With
no public officials and very few individuals even pretending to
respect you, just because of a total lack of appropriate education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!


None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our lives. As
Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy until he is dead". Perhaps,
just perhaps, a touch of humility might look good on you.


Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd
have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present
condition a failure.


You have no idea; your hope is vain and foolish. The brain is an organ
like any other, and damaging just a small part of it can result in
losing any mental or emotional capacity you can name.

I have an uncle who, in stroke, lost his ability to speak. He seems
otherwise unimpaired. He can understand speech, and he can formulate
things he wants to say, they just don't come out of his mouth any more.

My sister was not so fortunate in her brain damage, caused by a stroke
during an operation. She can talk your ear off, but she cannot form a
plan, either for the rest of the day or for the rest of her life.

One of the first signs of my great aunt's senile dementia was that she
lost the ability to get along with her brother, and engaged in an
uncharacterstic feud. Seems that's not an unusual symptom.

Any of these things could happen to you, or me, or any of us, just as
surely as we can lose the use of our legs, or our livers, or our lungs.
  #224  
Old April 6th 20, 10:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 4/6/2020 1:13 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski writes:


On 4/5/2020 1:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:45:43 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:


On 3/28/2020 6:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
snip

In January, our President stopped inbound travel from China
before any other nation did so. Why didn't Congress act?
Because they were rabidly engaged with their failed witch hunt.

The legislative branch does not run the CDC, NIH, FEMA and all the
agencies that provide emergency response. Congress does not manage
strategic reserves. It can't nationalize industries. It can't
restrict travel without passing new laws. So, in the face of
impending disaster, the executive branch has a lot to do -- much of
it logistical. The same is true on a state level. The governors
are running the show through executive orders, and the legislatures
are providing funding and a legal frame work for delivering
economic assistance.

This administration did a less than stellar job with messaging and
logistics and continues to do a poor job with logistics.

Omniscience is denied humans. Compare anything Commie Bill
DiBlasio said this week with his early March comments about
going to dinner in Chinatown and encouraging others to do
so. Even Yogi Berra knew that 'it's hard to make
predictions, especially about the future."

Shame on him, but constantly pointing to other idiots doesn't make it better.


The police powers of Governors are much stronger than
anything the President can do. They acted much later,
rightly or wrongly, and not all in the same way. Which are
correct and which have erred? We'll know in a few years but
not this afternoon.

Yes and no. Governors are not equipped to respond to national
disasters. That's why we have federal agencies that help with a
coordinated response. Governors cannot restrict national and
international travel. They cannot coordinate the nation's supply of
respirators or move Navy hospital ships on to the coasts. They can
activate national guards and take other measures (like all the
shelter in place orders), but they cant' make vaccines or do all
the things the NIH and CDC can, and they can't federalize
industries, assuming anyone can.


As I asked Mr McNamara, what would you have him do? Given
limited knowledge and the time scale, he did what most agree
was as much as could be done.

Not lie and spend all his time in front of the camera either
deflecting or praising himself. We needed FDR and we got John
Lovitz doing Tommy Flanagan. Pull the team together, secure supply
chains, mobilize the CDC, NIH, get a solid talking head -- Mike
Esper would have been a good choice. Be serious and act the part,
which is something he can't do -- so he should out source it and
not extemporize in front of the camera about Chloroquine or mean
correspondents asking bad questions. A good chief of staff would
have managed this.

-- Jay Beattie.

What I see occurring on craigslist doesn't bode well for your
firm. People are beginning to sell off expensive bicycles, framesets
and wheelsets cheaply as they run out of spending money.

Pretty quick your "Partners" are going to see the same thing and
maybe you should ask yourself how valuable you are.

Tom's right, Jay. We hope that you don't suddenly find yourself
unemployed. Getting no offers for interviews, let alone jobs. Living
in your mother's house. Listening to gunfire in your neighborhood, but
unable to afford to move. Unable to buy groceries without complaining
about the price. Accepting financial help from a socialist program you
despise. Forced to buy discount bicycle parts from a communist country
you hate. Then finding yourself addled about how to install them or
maintain them. Reduced to shouting to the world ideas originating on
Fox News or popping up spontaneously in some other damaged brain. With
no public officials and very few individuals even pretending to
respect you, just because of a total lack of appropriate education and
qualifications.

Oh, the ignominy!

None of us knows what will happen in what remains of our lives. As
Herodotus said, "Let no man be called happy until he is dead". Perhaps,
just perhaps, a touch of humility might look good on you.


Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd
have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present
condition a failure.


You have no idea; your hope is vain and foolish. The brain is an organ
like any other, and damaging just a small part of it can result in
losing any mental or emotional capacity you can name.

I have an uncle who, in stroke, lost his ability to speak. He seems
otherwise unimpaired. He can understand speech, and he can formulate
things he wants to say, they just don't come out of his mouth any more.

My sister was not so fortunate in her brain damage, caused by a stroke
during an operation. She can talk your ear off, but she cannot form a
plan, either for the rest of the day or for the rest of her life.

One of the first signs of my great aunt's senile dementia was that she
lost the ability to get along with her brother, and engaged in an
uncharacterstic feud. Seems that's not an unusual symptom.

Any of these things could happen to you, or me, or any of us, just as
surely as we can lose the use of our legs, or our livers, or our lungs.


Yes. And we're all going to die. Give thanks for what you have.


--
- Frank Krygowski
  #225  
Old April 7th 20, 01:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:13:11 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote:

Frank Krygowski writes:


Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd
have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present condition
a failure.


You have no idea; your hope is vain and foolish. The brain is an organ
like any other, and damaging just a small part of it can result in
losing any mental or emotional capacity you can name.


IME, people usually do not change their nature and the abberation isn't
general. OTOH, if finding out that some one was a closet arsehole comes
as a shock to some people. Unfortnately, most people do not truely listen
to someone and determine that nature before the damaging event.
  #226  
Old April 7th 20, 02:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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news18 writes:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:13:11 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote:

Frank Krygowski writes:


Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd
have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present condition
a failure.


You have no idea; your hope is vain and foolish. The brain is an organ
like any other, and damaging just a small part of it can result in
losing any mental or emotional capacity you can name.


IME, people usually do not change their nature and the abberation isn't
general. OTOH, if finding out that some one was a closet arsehole comes
as a shock to some people. Unfortnately, most people do not truely listen
to someone and determine that nature before the damaging event.


Our experiences differ. It's tempting to believe that there is some
sort of magic that makes our personalities, but I believe it's just
meat.
  #227  
Old April 7th 20, 02:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 4/6/2020 8:22 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
news18 writes:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:13:11 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote:

Frank Krygowski writes:


Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd
have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present condition
a failure.

You have no idea; your hope is vain and foolish. The brain is an organ
like any other, and damaging just a small part of it can result in
losing any mental or emotional capacity you can name.


IME, people usually do not change their nature and the abberation isn't
general. OTOH, if finding out that some one was a closet arsehole comes
as a shock to some people. Unfortnately, most people do not truely listen
to someone and determine that nature before the damaging event.


Our experiences differ. It's tempting to believe that there is some
sort of magic that makes our personalities, but I believe it's just
meat.


All too often, following a stroke or other brain trauma,
heartbreaking personality change. Or, as you put it, the
meat turns bad.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  #228  
Old April 7th 20, 10:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Roger Merriman[_4_]
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AMuzi wrote:
On 4/6/2020 8:22 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
news18 writes:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:13:11 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote:

Frank Krygowski writes:


Sure, there's some tiny chance I'll end up in Tom's position. But
speaking of humility, if I did end up in Tom's position, I hope I'd
have the sense to _not_ call someone in my, or Jay's, present condition
a failure.

You have no idea; your hope is vain and foolish. The brain is an organ
like any other, and damaging just a small part of it can result in
losing any mental or emotional capacity you can name.

IME, people usually do not change their nature and the abberation isn't
general. OTOH, if finding out that some one was a closet arsehole comes
as a shock to some people. Unfortnately, most people do not truely listen
to someone and determine that nature before the damaging event.


Our experiences differ. It's tempting to believe that there is some
sort of magic that makes our personalities, but I believe it's just
meat.


All too often, following a stroke or other brain trauma,
heartbreaking personality change. Or, as you put it, the
meat turns bad.


It’s one of the common quotes “it’s like they are a different person than I
married” most will talk of the person they where before and now.

The idea that our personalities are fixed is a comfort but not true sadly.

Roger Merriman

 




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