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On 4/6/2020 5:37 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute wrote: I was relying on John 14:2 which reads, from memory, "In my father's house are many mansions," with "mansion" being translated in modern vernacular versions as "rooms", rather than on geometry but, as you say, the result is the same. The "rational" tagline was a red herring but turns out spot on. If true, then heaven must be packed full of apartment buildings. That's not exactly my idea of paradise. I much prefer a single family dwelling. That also might explain why hell has recently become so popular. https://imgur.com/r/pics/lVG9603 Those images of hell you posted a link to makes me wonder if Hell hasn't been moved on to an undisclosed location by Health & Safety. True. I don't know what hell actually looks like, but I do suspect that the county planning department and their building permit bureaucracy are the likely guardians of the entrance. That it hasn't happened yet proves only that people too smart for their own good usually end up in the hot place. Are you perhaps waiting for the rapture? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture The end of days has been predicted many times, but so far both the good and the evil have managed to survive. I'm beginning to wonder if that will also apply to the current global crisis. Thanks for the giggle, Jeff. Andre Jute Calvinist. My place is reserved. But, just in case, I'm also chummy with the Papal Nuncio, the Archbishop, the Chief Rabbi, and an imam my halal butcher knows. Indecision is the key to flexibility. If Hell needs a county permit (or two or five or more) it certainly has never been built. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 4/6/2020 6:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/6/2020 6:43 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 2:07:01 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote: When Trump was a Democrat everyone was delighted with him and all said that he had no ego at all. ... I always thought he was a dopey self-promoter, regardless of his political affiliation. Another narcissistic trust-fund baby building temples to himself -- between bankruptcies and booty-calls. I thought about Trump almost not at all. What - a real estate guy who slathers his name on every building that he puts up? Sounds very egotistical. And a game show with a punch line "You're fired!"?? I don't watch any game shows, and if I did, that would be low on the list. Tom is making a common ideologue mistake: assuming everyone that disagrees with him has exactly the same opinions. +1 I disagree with him daily but since I know him from the financial press (no television) my criticisms are over policy and not snark or the Queens version of politeness. I've written here before that our choice is not to find Mother Theresa's replacement. It's for the least awful of the two finalists in a convoluted process. Yes, I scream at my radio some days but there's never been one day that I regretted my first vote for Donald J Trump which I'll duplicate in November. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 15:06:30 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 14:53:40 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote: Jeff Liebermann writes: On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 04:20:56 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute wrote: I've always pictured Hell as an overcrowded place, like the pavements of Calcutta or San Francisco, which, considering the infinity of eternity, is a worse punishment than being alone in an overheated room. Not to kibbutz, but following the logic, Hell must therefore have fewer rooms than Heaven. Andre Jute Rational Agreed. It's simple geometry. Hell is generally considered to be below ground, somewhere near the center of the planet as in Dante's Inferno: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante) Heaven is located somewhere above the clouds, as indicated by numerous illustrations showing the gods walking around on clouds. On a sphere, the available surface area increases with the cube of the altitude or depth. Therefore, there is far more available space above the clouds as there might be in some manner of a hollow earth hell. I beg to differ: The area of a sphere is 4 pi r^2. I humbly suggest that you reconsider your calculation. People, gods, and souls are not two dimensional. They require a third dimension as in the volume of a sphere, not the surface area. The volume of a sphere is 4/3 Pi r^3. You are rapidly approaching the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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Jeff Liebermann writes:
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 14:53:40 -0400, Radey Shouman wrote: Jeff Liebermann writes: On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 04:20:56 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute wrote: I've always pictured Hell as an overcrowded place, like the pavements of Calcutta or San Francisco, which, considering the infinity of eternity, is a worse punishment than being alone in an overheated room. Not to kibbutz, but following the logic, Hell must therefore have fewer rooms than Heaven. Andre Jute Rational Agreed. It's simple geometry. Hell is generally considered to be below ground, somewhere near the center of the planet as in Dante's Inferno: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante) Heaven is located somewhere above the clouds, as indicated by numerous illustrations showing the gods walking around on clouds. On a sphere, the available surface area increases with the cube of the altitude or depth. Therefore, there is far more available space above the clouds as there might be in some manner of a hollow earth hell. I beg to differ: The area of a sphere is 4 pi r^2. I humbly suggest that you reconsider your calculation. People, gods, and souls are not two dimensional. They require a third dimension as in the volume of a sphere, not the surface area. The volume of a sphere is 4/3 Pi r^3. I was not imagining ceilings of unlimited height, nor numberless stories. But my imagination is not equal to the task. |
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: 'For every room in heaven, there's one just like it in hell for someone else.' -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Not sure how to interpret this. Does it mean the rooms in heaven are really, really bad? Or the rooms in hell are really, really good? And your statement implies an exact 50/50 split between heaven and hell. 1 out of 2 are going to burn in hell. And the other half are going to be happy in heaven. Based on my observations over the years, I can believe the amount going to hell. But 50% gong to heaven seems too optimistic. I was once told by an individual that had attended a Catholic collage that all of those who did not worship the Christian God were bound for Hell, that is currently 68% of the world's population who will be taking the "down" elevator. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 15:37:27 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute wrote: I was relying on John 14:2 which reads, from memory, "In my father's house are many mansions," with "mansion" being translated in modern vernacular versions as "rooms", rather than on geometry but, as you say, the result is the same. The "rational" tagline was a red herring but turns out spot on. If true, then heaven must be packed full of apartment buildings. That's not exactly my idea of paradise. I much prefer a single family dwelling. That also might explain why hell has recently become so popular. https://imgur.com/r/pics/lVG9603 Those images of hell you posted a link to makes me wonder if Hell hasn't been moved on to an undisclosed location by Health & Safety. True. I don't know what hell actually looks like, but I do suspect that the county planning department and their building permit bureaucracy are the likely guardians of the entrance. That it hasn't happened yet proves only that people too smart for their own good usually end up in the hot place. Are you perhaps waiting for the rapture? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture The end of days has been predicted many times, but so far both the good and the evil have managed to survive. I'm beginning to wonder if that will also apply to the current global crisis. Thanks for the giggle, Jeff. Andre Jute Calvinist. My place is reserved. But, just in case, I'm also chummy with the Papal Nuncio, the Archbishop, the Chief Rabbi, and an imam my halal butcher knows. Indecision is the key to flexibility. Well, comparing the Christian Heaven and the Muslim Heaven, the Christians get a harp and the Muslims get 77 women, specified to have big boobs. And, I have read that the Jews have seven heavens, but apparently no harps or boobs :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: 'For every room in heaven, there's one just like it in hell for someone else.' -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Not sure how to interpret this. Does it mean the rooms in heaven are really, really bad? Or the rooms in hell are really, really good? And your statement implies an exact 50/50 split between heaven and hell. 1 out of 2 are going to burn in hell. And the other half are going to be happy in heaven. Based on my observations over the years, I can believe the amount going to hell. But 50% gong to heaven seems too optimistic. I was once told by an individual that had attended a Catholic collage that all of those who did not worship the Christian God were bound for Hell, that is currently 68% of the world's population who will be taking the "down" elevator. -- cheers, John B. It’s gonna be a hell of a shock when those people get to the Pearly Gates and find Buddha there. |
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On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 02:17:18 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote: John B. wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: 'For every room in heaven, there's one just like it in hell for someone else.' -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Not sure how to interpret this. Does it mean the rooms in heaven are really, really bad? Or the rooms in hell are really, really good? And your statement implies an exact 50/50 split between heaven and hell. 1 out of 2 are going to burn in hell. And the other half are going to be happy in heaven. Based on my observations over the years, I can believe the amount going to hell. But 50% gong to heaven seems too optimistic. I was once told by an individual that had attended a Catholic collage that all of those who did not worship the Christian God were bound for Hell, that is currently 68% of the world's population who will be taking the "down" elevator. -- cheers, John B. It’s gonna be a hell of a shock when those people get to the Pearly Gates and find Buddha there. :-) But he's not there. He no longer exists, to use one translation. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 09:04:46 +0700, John B.
wrote: Well, comparing the Christian Heaven and the Muslim Heaven, the Christians get a harp and the Muslims get 77 women, specified to have big boobs. So, what do the women get when they enter heaven? Somehow, that question seems to have escaped the attention of the biblical authors and scholars. And, I have read that the Jews have seven heavens, but apparently no harps or boobs :-) No loose women or big boobs, but maybe some choir music. See the 5th level of heaven: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_in_Judaism The fifth heaven is under the administration of Samael. It is also where the Ishim and the Song-Uttering Choirs reside. Since the traditional Jewish image of paradise is lacking in entertainment value, the biblical scholars added a playground: Beyond Paradise, according to Legends of the Jews, is the higher Gan Eden, where God is enthroned and explains the Torah to its inhabitants. So, there you have it. When you go to heaven, you're expected to listen to choir music and study the Torah. Eternal damnation seems like more fun. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 19:50:59 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
If Hell needs a county permit (or two or five or more) it certainly has never been built. That's also true for ordinary construction and developments. If the builder actually followed the procedures and rules outlined in the ever changing zoning, codes, and general plans, nothing would ever be built. However, buildings do seem to appear occasionally. The process is greatly expedited by political contributions, assumption of traditional county expenses such as street lighting and sidewalks, social relevance (homeless), job creation, outright bribes, and other lubricants. Since the hellacious construction practices found in all illustrations of hell would be compliant with any known building code, I can only assume that the necessary permits were properly expedited. Please note that all documentation in reference to hell suggest that there is only one hell, subdivided into 7 layers. To build such a hell would require only one permit, from only one planetary government. While such permits might be difficult to obtain in most first world countries, it would not be difficult to find a small country that is more willing to do business with the devil. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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