Economics not bicycle tech

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 12:57:52 -0500, AMuzi wrote:


My brother the anaesthesiologist says that if your average guy had a
respirator and an unable-to-breathe patient the patient would be dead by
morning. The operator, (much like pilots/aircraft in WWII) is a critical
item and in short supply compared to machines.

He is possibly correct, but there is a hell of people who use assisted
breathing apparatus(cpaps, etc) around so the claim may just be an area
of his lack of knowledge.

When a cpap store can survive on main street here for years, there must
some "common" knowledge.

BTW, AFAIK a respirator is just a specialised form of cpap; a bi-pap, it
"pumps" both ways. Well is runs pressure on and pressure off where as a
cpap is consisten pressure on.

The normal ventilator only pressurizes the lungs and then opening the lungs to open air the inner pressure drains the lungs.

High altitude masks for aircraft are a pressure bottle with a valve that is opened by he negative pressure of your inhalation. Just like aqualung.

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:57:38 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:32:04 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 13:08:54 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:


Jay, you can't let a chance go by to show you're crazy can you? Just
the PROPERTY that Trump owns makes him a billionaire.

Does he own them or are they owned by banks?

So among your other talents or lack of such, you cannot look it up?

So you are making another claim that you can not back up. No surprise.

All of Trump's companies own their own buildings and the land they sit on free and clear. Why would you insist otherwise? Trump is slightly more wealthy than Bloomberg which drives Bloomdoggle crazy. Over $50 Billion.

Why are you so willing to invent an entirely new world?

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:47:53 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 2:26:16 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 7:17:32 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:

'For every room in heaven, there's one just like it in hell
for someone else.'

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Not sure how to interpret this. Does it mean the rooms in heaven are
really, really bad? Or the rooms in hell are really, really good? And
your statement implies an exact 50/50 split between heaven and hell. 1
out of 2 are going to burn in hell. And the other half are going to be
happy in heaven. Based on my observations over the years, I can believe
the amount going to hell. But 50% gong to heaven seems too optimistic.

I was once told by an individual that had attended a Catholic collage
that all of those who did not worship the Christian God were bound for
Hell, that is currently 68% of the world's population who will be
taking the "down" elevator.
--
cheers,

John B.

It’s gonna be a hell of a shock when those people get to the Pearly Gates
and find Buddha there.

So among your other talents you haven't any idea of what Buddhism is?


Whatever... The point of this atheist’s post was that with the
multiplicity of religions out there all praising their “One True God”, if
there is an afterlife, there’s gonna be a lot of people disappointed that
they bet on the wrong horse.

Buddhism doesn't offer an afterlife. It is a way of life that also
happens to pretty much align with Christianity. This is why so many
Indians and Chinese converted to Christianity


Yeah, I got that part wrong. Sorry for ruining the joke. On the other hand,
maybe the Buddhists were right about everything else, but wrong about the
absence of an afterlife, which would add to everybody’s surprise.

Actually it is the Hindus and the Buddhist who hope to, eventually,
escape the drudgery of rebirth.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 2:01:12 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/6/2020 6:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/6/2020 6:43 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 2:07:01 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich
wrote:

When Trump was a Democrat everyone was delighted with him
and all said that he had no ego at all. ...

I always thought he was a dopey self-promoter, regardless
of his political affiliation. Another narcissistic
trust-fund baby building temples to himself -- between
bankruptcies and booty-calls.

I thought about Trump almost not at all. What - a real
estate guy who slathers his name on every building that he
puts up? Sounds very egotistical. And a game show with a
punch line "You're fired!"?? I don't watch any game shows,
and if I did, that would be low on the list.

Tom is making a common ideologue mistake: assuming everyone
that disagrees with him has exactly the same opinions.


+1
I disagree with him daily but since I know him from the
financial press (no television) my criticisms are over
policy and not snark or the Queens version of politeness.

I've written here before that our choice is not to find
Mother Theresa's replacement.

The one thing we don't need is another Mother Theresa. That woman was a necrophiliac. Get Slow Johnny to google the dozens of do-gooders who volunteered at the sainted Mother Theresa's hospice, and were horrified at her refusal to send people who could be cured to hospitals, or to give them medicines. She thought it was better to pack them off to Jesus with all dispatch, and kept up her quota of death at the expense of many lives. If she weren't a celebrity nun almost as famous as the Singing Nun, she'd have spent about 90 per cent of her adult like as the defendant in court, charged with negligent homicide.

It's for the least awful of
the two finalists in a convoluted process. Yes, I scream at
my radio some days but there's never been one day that I
regretted my first vote for Donald J Trump which I'll
duplicate in November.

Lot of us were wrong about him. But we're adults, we changed our minds once he started doing the right thing. But Kindergarten Dems like Jay refuse to see that Mr Trump could easily end up as being a renowned pivot-President, like Roosevelt, Nixon and Reagan.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andre Jute
Hallelujah!

On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:54:26 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 12:57:52 -0500, AMuzi wrote:


My brother the anaesthesiologist says that if your average guy had a
respirator and an unable-to-breathe patient the patient would be dead
by morning. The operator, (much like pilots/aircraft in WWII) is a
critical item and in short supply compared to machines.

He is possibly correct, but there is a hell of people who use assisted
breathing apparatus(cpaps, etc) around so the claim may just be an area
of his lack of knowledge.

When a cpap store can survive on main street here for years, there must
some "common" knowledge.

BTW, AFAIK a respirator is just a specialised form of cpap; a bi-pap,
it "pumps" both ways. Well is runs pressure on and pressure off where
as a cpap is consisten pressure on.

The normal ventilator only pressurizes the lungs and then opening the
lungs to open air the inner pressure drains the lungs.

WTF are you talking about?
Or to cut to the chase, why is a bi-pap useful for covid19, but a cpap
isn't.

On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:57:42 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:57:38 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:32:04 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 13:08:54 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:


Jay, you can't let a chance go by to show you're crazy can you?
Just the PROPERTY that Trump owns makes him a billionaire.

Does he own them or are they owned by banks?

So among your other talents or lack of such, you cannot look it up?

So you are making another claim that you can not back up. No surprise.

All of Trump's companies own their own buildings and the land they sit
on free and clear. Why would you insist otherwise?

What proof is there of that?
You have the "independently audied*" balance shets?


Trump is slightly
more wealthy than Bloomberg which drives Bloomdoggle crazy. Over $50
Billion.

Why are you so willing to invent an entirely new world?

No, I'm in the real world where leverage is the norm.

* Arthur Young.

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 12:39:54 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/8/2020 1:24 PM, wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 8:29:13 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:

'For every room in heaven, there's one just like it in hell
for someone else.'

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Not sure how to interpret this. Does it mean the rooms in heaven are really, really bad? Or the rooms in hell are really, really good? And your statement implies an exact 50/50 split between heaven and hell. 1 out of 2 are going to burn in hell. And the other half are going to be happy in heaven. Based on my observations over the years, I can believe the amount going to hell. But 50% gong to heaven seems too optimistic.

I was once told by an individual that had attended a Catholic collage
that all of those who did not worship the Christian God were bound for
Hell, that is currently 68% of the world's population who will be
taking the "down" elevator.
--
cheers,

John B.

You think 32% of the world population is Christian or Jewish? I think that is way too high a percentage. China and India are well over one billion each. Neither is a Christian nation. And all those other densely populated southeast Asian countries are not Christian. Don't think Africa has many Christians. Not Japan either. Not the middle east. The only Christian/Jew parts of the world are Europe, South American, North America, Australia, Israel. They might make up 25% of the world population. Then deduct all of the non believers and other believing immigrants from those populations. You are down to 10-15% of the world population believing in a Christian, Jew god. Not 32%.


You underestimate African Christian culture I think:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ing-in-europe/

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

True I did forget about the African Christian connection. My Mom's church/faith gets lots of ministers from Africa and the Philippines. And sends money and missionaries to Africa. But I'm still sticking with my statement that 32% of the world is not Christian/Jewish. I'm sure the billion plus in India are not Christian. And I'm equally positive the billion plus in China and the rest of Asia are not Christian. So that is 50% of the world's total population gone right there.

Well Pew, a rather respected group seem to think differently:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ing-in-europe/
Christians remained the largest religious group in the world in 2015,
making up nearly a third (31%) of Earth's 7.3 billion people,
according to a new Pew Research Center demographic analysis.

According to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_by_country
The Christian population of India is 30,000,000
Of China is 31,220,000[43] to 67,070,000[22]
ref 43 - Chinese Family Panel Studies's survey of 201
ref 22 - Christianity (2010)" (PDF).
(probable translation: No one knows for sure :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 12:16:06 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:08:57 PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:

Trump's tax cuts were not supposed to help you. Is that what ticks you off? That people in the top 10% actually lost money in the so-called tax cuts? That they were designed to help America and not some dumb ass special interest group. For the first time in modern history a President worked FOR the electorate and that's what you don't like.



You think the people in the top 10% income actually lost money due to the 2018 Tax Act? And you have been touting yourself on this board as being a genius and super smart. The top 10% income own about 90% of all the stock market. And the 2018 Tax Act cut the corporate tax rate to 20%. Big reduction. So corporations instantly had more profit. And that usually translates to higher stock prices. Of course in 2018 Trump caused the SP500, Dow, Nasdaq to all lose money.

As for working for the Electorate, when did companies get a vote? Did the Republicans pass that law recently? Giving votes to companies based on how much money they donated to Trump? The 2018 Tax Act was a corporate tax cut.

Ah but the top of the pile is paying far more than their share
https://tinyurl.com/renqn2b
The top 10 percent pays 53.3 percent of all federal taxes. And, 68% of
the federal income taxes.

The top 1 percent pays 24 percent of all federal taxes and 35 percent
of all federal income taxes.

--
cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:57:44 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:57:38 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:32:04 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 13:08:54 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:


Jay, you can't let a chance go by to show you're crazy can you? Just
the PROPERTY that Trump owns makes him a billionaire.

Does he own them or are they owned by banks?

So among your other talents or lack of such, you cannot look it up?

So you are making another claim that you can not back up. No surprise.

All of Trump's companies own their own buildings and the land they sit on free and clear. Why would you insist otherwise? Trump is slightly more wealthy than Bloomberg which drives Bloomdoggle crazy. Over $50 Billion.

Why are you so willing to invent an entirely new world?

WTF? Even Trump doesn't claim outright ownership of his buildings or a net worth anywhere near $50B. You're unhinged.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:20:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 7:35:32 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:03:19 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 19:03:33 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

You could embrace the new religion, face Mosinee Wisconsin
and give thanks for the sacred toilet paper we send out to
redeem the world. It's suddenly the only sacred artifact in
the nation.

(I don't understand this phenomenon either. It's mystical.)

Did y'all "send out" toilet paper? I thought that it was hoarded by
the multitudes and was no longer available in the "the land of the
free and the home of the brave (with dirty bums)"?

Oh, they're sending it out. My long haul trucker friend posted a
photo of a line of tractor trailers maybe a quarter mile long. They
were lined up to pick up shipments of toilet paper.

We went to the grocery today. On the twenty foot long double shelves
that are usually filled with packs of toilet paper, we saw two packs
of Charmin (6 rolls each) and maybe 20 individual discount rolls.
We snagged one Charmin pack. Woo hoo!

One interesting aspect: If this scare suddenly ends, the toilet paper
factories will have to shut down for a month or more. Nobody will
need to buy any for a long time.

- Frank Krygowski


I think it will actually work out well for them. The toilet paper factories
are running flat out now. Once everybody has too much and the virus
situation continues to worsen, they can let their staff run off of their
banked overtime and stay home with pay.

Ralph, It appears that 3 out of 4 people have immune systems that react very rapidly to this virus and they cannot become infected. They are primed by the fact that Covid-19 is very similar to the cold virus so immunity is pretty much built-in.

Of the 25% of the population left, 80% of them had no or very mild symptoms. The remaining 20% is unclear since they are not properly testing people but it appears that the virus CAN be fatal to about 3% of them however the treatment methods look to be working very well. Perhaps this is the reason that there seems to be a sharp drop in fatalities. Though perhaps it can be more widespread testing which increases the baseline and makes the mortality rate calculations.

What if rather than 80% having little to no symptoms, only 5% do and only 3% of those are in danger? And treatment appears to be working on 80% of those?

I am quite upset at the apparently total fake claims from the CDC. It now appears that we will have fewer than 10% of the predicted fatalities from the CDC and that is not just room for error but totally missing the mark.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
World wide, of the 418,136 cases which, to date, have had an outcome:
329,731 (79%) Recovered
88,405 (21%) died
But don't worry folks Tommy says there is no danger.

In California
https://coronavirus.app/tracking/california
there are have been 18,909 cases diagnosed and 495 deaths and no
recoveries.
But don't worry folks Tommy says there is no danger.
--
cheers,

John B.