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invest in a bike stand. it makes stuff like this a ton easier. and for avoiding greasy hands, use a rag to grab the chain -- Greg-O |
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Ben wrote:
Ok I admit, most people here will think I am a jerk for asking this question, but I need advice. On my road bike, I got a flat tyre the other day ( Rear ) Ok, I got the wheel of, put it in the smallest gear, no problem. But could I get the wheel back on ??? NO way, after I covered my hands in grease, and made a mess of my new bike, I tried over 10 times, untill I finally got it back on. It was very frustrating to say the least. Guys, please tell me any secrets in making this job easy, as I dred my next rear flat tyre. Do you lay the bike on the ground, upside down ??? I know once you get the knack, its like pumping up a tyre, but I am far from getting the knack. Please advise me on how its done the esay way. A bery big thankyou, Ben Carry a couple of "surgical gloves". They are cheap as chips and disposable. Failing that you can do it with a bit of rag but .... -- Remove norubbish to reply direct Jack Russell |
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Jack Russell Wrote: Ben wrote: Ok I admit, most people here will think I am a jerk for asking this question, but I need advice. On my road bike, I got a flat tyre the other day ( Rear ) Ok, I got the wheel of, put it in the smallest gear, no problem. But could I get the wheel back on ??? NO way, after I covered my hands in grease, and made a mess of my new bike, I tried over 10 times, untill I finally got it back on. It was very frustrating to say the least. Guys, please tell me any secrets in making this job easy, as I dred my next rear flat tyre. Do you lay the bike on the ground, upside down ??? I know once you get the knack, its like pumping up a tyre, but I am far from getting the knack. Please advise me on how its done the esay way. A bery big thankyou, Ben Carry a couple of "surgical gloves". They are cheap as chips and disposable. Failing that you can do it with a bit of rag but .... -- Remove norubbish to reply direct Jack Russell You stole my suggestion! Gloves are an _excellent_ device for keeping hands clean. I don't want to arrive at work with black hands after fixing a flat. Ok, here's another one. As you begin re-installing the wheel, rest the sprockets on the chain and you'll find that the derailer is in the way, between the axle and the dropout. Pull the derailer back a little so the cassette clears it and voila! Wheel is in. Ritch -- ritcho |
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Spin (ed) pedals to check bike in lowest gear. Why? Because when you put it back, you need to spin the wheel again to check you've put it back centred, doesn't rub, etc. Pull now lowest jockey wheel back to reduce amount of chain in contact with cluster. Why? On my bike, there is a fair bit of chain wrap around rear. This unwraps a bit of it. Actually makes it easier to get back in more than anything. What's all this 'lowest gear' stuff? I can take the wheel out without touching the chain with my hands and with the chain on a middle cog.. ??? That is on your bicycle. Let me guess, tight range rear cluster, with 52-40 triple on front? I run 36/34 to 13/14 rear cluster with 40-26 triple. there is a bit of chain about. ....snip..... Oh, if you HAVE to move the chain.. use a stick or something to stop dirty hands? It is okay, I'm a man, I don't mind a little bit of grease {:-) It gives me an excuse to use hand cream VBG |
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Greg-O wrote:
invest in a bike stand. it makes stuff like this a ton easier. I've got two of those at home. It is quicker just to flip the bike and do it. Especially when you are out on the road. |
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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 21:48:59 +1000, "Ben" wrote:
On my road bike, I got a flat tyre the other day ( Rear ) Ok, I got the wheel of, put it in the smallest gear, no problem. But could I get the wheel back on ??? NO way, after I covered my hands in grease, and made a mess of my new bike, I tried over 10 times, untill I finally got it back on. If you have no grease on your chain then you can't get it on your hands. There will be howls of protest but try using parafin wax on your chain every two or three months. You clean the chain in a solvent (I use petrol but you can expect more howls about that) then dunk it in molten wax. There are other more expensive dry lubs too. Depending on how much riding you do you may even have to change the chain more often but chains are cheap enough. Personally I change my chain every year but have never got near 1/16" over a foot stretch. Regards Bruce www.bcl.id.au |
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Ben Wrote: Ok I admit, most people here will think I am a jerk for asking this question, but I need advice. On my road bike, I got a flat tyre the other day ( Rear ) Ok, I got the wheel of, put it in the smallest gear, no problem. But could I get the wheel back on ??? NO way, after I covered my hands in grease, and made a mess of my new bike, I tried over 10 times, untill I finally got it back on. It was very frustrating to say the least. Guys, please tell me any secrets in making this job easy, as I dred my next rear flat tyre. Do you lay the bike on the ground, upside down ??? I know once you get the knack, its like pumping up a tyre, but I am far from getting the knack. Please advise me on how its done the esay way. A bery big thankyou, Ben Don't listen to those other clowns This is how REAL race mechanics change a rear wheel Flip open the brake QR. Stand on the NDS (non drive side). Face the rear wheel. Lift the rear of the bike one (left) handed with the DS seatstay. Bend over so the seat is in your abdomen. Got it? Undo the QR lever with your free hand. Swap your free hand to the drive side. Twist derailleur parallelogram backwards. Give the bike a good shake. If the wheel is installed correctly, it should drop out, hence the term "dropouts" for where the wheel goes in. If not, undo the QR nut a few turns and give the wheel a good wallop on the tyre at 12 to 2 o'clock. Still no good? We're into workshop territory now. Undo the QR all the way and take it out. Pull the seatstays apart with your mighty biceps. Still no good? Get a friend to do all the above wheel manipulation while you pull the seatstays apart with your mighty biceps. If no good, swap spots. If still no good, smash bike with large hammer, until frustration is righteously assuaged. If any of the above, short of the righteous anger, works, check the clearance in the dropout slots - should be +- 11mm. File or bend the slot apart (gently! snappage can occur!) to fit the wheel axle ends - slide the wheel in and out a few times to check. Some bikes' derailleur hangers are designed to frustrate easy wheel removal. Not much you can do about this. Buy a new frame? What a handy excuse . . . M "The devil lies in the frame design detail"H -- mfhor |
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"Ben" wrote in message ...
Ok I admit, most people here will think I am a jerk for asking this question, but I need advice. On my road bike, I got a flat tyre the other day ( Rear ) Ok, I got the wheel of, put it in the smallest gear, no problem. But could I get the wheel back on ??? NO way, after I covered my hands in grease, and made a mess of my new bike, I tried over 10 times, untill I finally got it back on. It was very frustrating to say the least. Guys, please tell me any secrets in making this job easy, as I dred my next rear flat tyre. Do you lay the bike on the ground, upside down ??? I know once you get the knack, its like pumping up a tyre, but I am far from getting the knack. Please advise me on how its done the esay way. A bery big thankyou, Ben Here it is... Don't bother changing gears mate, just remember the one you were in when you stopped. Turn the bike on it's reverse (this is simply to make it easier to work on). Undo the quick release and pull the wheel out. Replace tube/fix puncture(as if#2!). Replace wheel and ride away happy. If you ride a MTB you may also have to free the brakes. I don't see how you can get greasy doing the above chore, we all do it at some stage. G. |
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Terry Collins hippy What's all this 'lowest gear' stuff? I can take the wheel out without touching the chain with my hands and with the chain on a middle cog.. ??? That is on your bicycle. Let me guess, tight range rear cluster, with 52-40 triple on front?[/color] Something like that, yeah.. I run 36/34 to 13/14 rear cluster with 40-26 triple. there is a bit of chain about. Ahh.. ok, that makes more sense. Hey, if you have two work stands and don't use them.. I know where you can send them hippy -- hippy |
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"Ben" wrote in message ...
Ok I admit, most people here will think I am a jerk for asking this question, but I need advice. On my road bike, I got a flat tyre the other day ( Rear ) Ok, I got the wheel of, put it in the smallest gear, no problem. But could I get the wheel back on ??? NO way, after I covered my hands in grease, and made a mess of my new bike, I tried over 10 times, untill I finally got it back on. It was very frustrating to say the least. Guys, please tell me any secrets in making this job easy, as I dred my next rear flat tyre. Do you lay the bike on the ground, upside down ??? I know once you get the knack, its like pumping up a tyre, but I am far from getting the knack. Please advise me on how its done the esay way. A bery big thankyou, Ben I have never, ever turned the bike upside down......seems silly as I am sure that it must be harder to pull the wheel out than to drop it out......here is my tried and true technique..... I keep bike upright and stand on off-drive side. Shift to 2nd smallest cog (I got in this habit after having a bike with a lug on the drive side seat stay that I could put the chain over so that it stayed in place for replacement of the wheel), release brakes, release QR skewer, lean over back wheel and pivot derallieur to the rear......wheel generally drops out at this point (may need a slight tap on the top with palm sometimes). Grab wheel and shimmy it outside the loop of the chain, lay bike on LHS so chain is off the ground. I then replace the tube, pump it up whilst still off the bike and then pick up the bike and pretty well reverse the process. I always apply downwards pressure on the seat before tightening the QR skewer to make sure that the wheel is seated properly in the dropouts. I also grab and release the rear brakes a couple of times and then check that they are clearing the rim (ie. the wheel is in straight). At no stage in the process do I touch the chain!!!! I only touch the deraillieur which is usually fairly clean but I do carry a small rag in my seat bag (about 15 cm x 15cm) that stops tools from rattling and is great to use to grab the deraillieur. Ride On, Gags |
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