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Old March 7th 13, 03:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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GREEK !

I ASSUME AGE AND CLIPIN PEDAL USE ARE INVERSE ?


hmmmm the pro raing crashes as in TF....the riders are all unclipped when falling onto the road ?

consciously unclipped or unclipped as a consequence of the accident, in falling ?
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Old March 7th 13, 04:39 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mar 6, 11:41*pm, datakoll wrote:

have you tried a recumbent ?

we all grow old. my skinned knees no longer heal in 2 weeks. Now healing takes 3 months.


magnesium oil

I ran on Florida's beaches curing a not diagnosed lung infection. Maybe 9000 miles worth.


The sea contains much magnesium the mist will have been helping you.
Eat greens every day and rub magnesium oil into youe skin.


Stopped eating red meat when I ran into a barrier of sore n stiff joints at 9 miles. I'm paranormal so my guess was prescient and LO ! *without red meat in a month the distance was 12-13 miles at a marathon clip n no sore joints.


All muscle meat is injurous to you. Fish and even eggs will hurt if
they are cooked. Absolute minimum amount per day or even skip for
three days to start healimg.



One wonders abt attention deficit syndromes. Deficit to Gauss ? or Joe Dimaggio ?

At 50, general opinion is nerve impulses have slowed so the hands of a ranked racing car driver can no longer keep speed. Not mentioning the hand/eye coordination prob.


use celery seed in your diet.

For awhile one may force the issue n overcome the deficit but on the horizon lies a point where forcing becomes a hit or miss action.



Consider what you put in your mouth or on yopur body either enables
your health or harms it. If you cannot be confident it completely
fits the first category without doubt, your instinct is probably
right. Don't give your health and life away to corporate rule.
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Old March 7th 13, 04:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mar 7, 1:27*am, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/6/2013 5:41 PM, datakoll wrote:

have you tried a recumbent ?


we all grow old. my skinned knees no longer heal in 2 weeks. Now healing takes 3 months.


I ran on Florida's beaches curing a not diagnosed lung infection. Maybe 9000 miles worth.


Stopped eating red meat when I ran into a barrier of sore n stiff joints at 9 miles. I'm paranormal so my guess was prescient and LO ! *without red meat in a month the distance was 12-13 miles at a marathon clip n no sore joints.


One wonders abt attention deficit syndromes. Deficit to Gauss ? or Joe Dimaggio ?


At 50, general opinion is nerve impulses have slowed so the hands of a ranked racing car driver can no longer keep speed. Not mentioning the hand/eye coordination prob.


For awhile one may force the issue n overcome the deficit but on the horizon lies a point where forcing becomes a hit or miss action.


Tom Sherman rides one for us, so we don't have to.



He doesn't see green as being a healthy option, poor guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET_iI...4A32A 4159D04

the greens go on the plate!
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Old March 7th 13, 05:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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'final' cure was breathing pollution from St Joe's paper mill while sleeping in a tent on St George Island.

Pollution restarted cells providing lung lubricity.

First stage was breaking the infected alveoli with a dose of Cuban coffee on break at Lear in NJ ! unreal born again feeling.

so much for natural substances like Castor bean Oil

I emp with Cress caws I did not proceed to clip in due to age.
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Old March 7th 13, 07:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 03-05-2013 20:59, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
I've got something called "Insidiously-progressive ideopathic peripheral
neuropathy" - which seems to be medical terminology for "Your sensory
nerves are slowly dying, we have no clue why, there's nothing to be done
about it... that will be $150.00, and you can pay the receptionist on
the way out."


Can't answer your biking questions, but alpha-lipoic acid might help the
condition. It's known to improve neuropathy for diabetics.

--
Wes Groleau

Why does everyone call it a “fanny pack" ?
When was the last time you saw one on a fanny?
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Old March 7th 13, 02:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 3/6/2013 8:43 PM, Jay Beattie wrote:
On Mar 5, 9:24 pm, Peter Gordon petergoATnetspace.net.au wrote:
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote :

I've got something called "Insidiously-progressive ideopathic

peripheral
neuropathy" - which seems to be medical terminology for "Your sensory
nerves are slowly dying, we have no clue why, there's nothing to be

done
about it... that will be $150.00, and you can pay the receptionist on
the way out."

I have never heard of your disease before so don't know if this helps.
I use half clips when touring. They allow the use of a non-clipless
shoes which are far better for walking and is one less thing to break
and ruin a tour.
Amazons have them, beware of a broken line:http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Bicycle-.../dp/B000FSQQMS
If that link does not work use:
"Amazons Delta Bicycle Strapless Toe Clips" as the search phrase in
Google.

Another type, which I have not tried:http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...alf-clips.html

Zefal used to sell them and may still do. I've used Zefal Half
Clips and found them good. The Delta ones are also quite good.

I think this would be an appropriate compromise for Pete -- some of
the MKS urban pedals with the Delta strapless clips -- shimmed out to
accommodate his giant feet. I used something along those lines when
I was riding in an orthopedic boot after breaking my leg(s). The
plastic is somewhat forgiving, so toe/shoe smash is lessened (and why
I would not get the chromed half-clips). Olde-tyme touring shoe with
ridges also help stabilize the foot without trapping it. It looks
like peripheral neuropathy can cause weak ankles, so easy exit will be
important, and notwithstanding my love for SPDs, they do require some
ankle strength and flexibility.



I know that easy exit is important but with clipless pedals and a
reduced sense of touch, getting into the cleats could be problematic as
well. I experienced something similar last Novemeber when I didn't
think that I needed my shoe covers. The old style touring shoes may be
worth a look.
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Old March 17th 13, 07:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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I was diagnosed with small fibre idiopathic peripheral neuropathy in 2005. It progressed pretty much as the textbooks said it would. I stopped cycling and kept walking to a minimum because both seemed to make things worse.

For various reasons (long story) I became 99.9% sure it was caused by vitamin B12 deficiency and started taking oral B12 supplements (methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin). My B12 blood test was normal so the neurologists I saw laughed off this approach but said the B12 would not do any harm. (B12 blood tests are very unreliable, particularly in people who exercise regularly.) I also took alpha lipoic acid, acetyl-L-carnitine, coenzyme Q10, and a good multivitamin containing all the B-group vitamins. Within about 6 months my neuropathy started to improve, much to the surprise of the neurologists. I now get only mild symptoms, but I am riding as much as I like and still taking B12.

If you are over 50 there is a high probability you may be deficient in B12. I learned a lot from this support group:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=20
or http://tinyurl.com/ajzvup2

This program is well worth listening to.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...tation/3823160
or http://tinyurl.com/8

I hope this all helps.

Martin
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Old March 17th 13, 07:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Sorry - that last tinyurl should be

http://tinyurl.com/868wux8
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Old March 17th 13, 11:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Martin writes:

I was diagnosed with small fibre idiopathic peripheral neuropathy in 2005. It progressed pretty much as the textbooks said it would. I stopped cycling and kept walking to a minimum because both seemed to make things worse.

For various reasons (long story) I became 99.9% sure it was caused by vitamin B12 deficiency and started taking oral B12 supplements (methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin). My B12 blood test was normal so the neurologists I saw laughed off this approach but said the B12 would not do any harm. (B12 blood tests are very unreliable, particularly in people who exercise regularly.) I also took alpha lipoic acid, acetyl-L-carnitine, coenzyme Q10, and a good multivitamin containing all the B-group vitamins. Within about 6 months my neuropathy started to improve, much to the surprise of the neurologists. I now get only mild symptoms, but I am riding as much as I like and still taking B12.

If you are over 50 there is a high probability you may be deficient in B12. I learned a lot from this support group:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=20
or http://tinyurl.com/ajzvup2

This program is well worth listening to.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...tation/3823160
or http://tinyurl.com/8


Conversely, a few years ago I started taking a multivitamin with B12.
Some months later began to experience a weird tingling in my right big
toe. Saw a specialist. He suggested the problem could be excessive
vitamin B12 and ordered a blood test, which confirmed his hypothesis.
Quit taking the supplement and the tingling quickly disappeared.

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Joe Riel
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Old March 17th 13, 11:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Martin[_6_]
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Conversely, a few years ago I started taking a multivitamin with B12.

Some months later began to experience a weird tingling in my right big

toe. Saw a specialist. He suggested the problem could be excessive

vitamin B12 and ordered a blood test, which confirmed his hypothesis.

Quit taking the supplement and the tingling quickly disappeared.


High doses of B6 can cause neuropathy, but I haven't heard of high B12 intake causing it. Multivitamins usually contain B6.

The Linus Pauling Institute has good (and I think trustworthy) information on vitamins:
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...ins/vitaminB6/
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...ns/vitaminB12/
 




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