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Old December 1st 06, 08:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,misc.consumers.frugal-living,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
Yarper
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones

Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist, due directly
to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz, who ironically is listed as
working for a personal-injury law firm.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.

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Old December 1st 06, 09:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,misc.consumers.frugal-living,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
nash
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones

Doesn't Sweden also have miles of highway set aside for cyclists?


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Old December 1st 06, 09:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
Karen Newton
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones

Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.


"nash" wrote in message
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Doesn't Sweden also have miles of highway set aside for cyclists?




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Old December 1st 06, 09:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,misc.consumers.frugal-living,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones


Yarper wrote:
Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist, due directly
to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz, who ironically is listed as
working for a personal-injury law firm.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.


I don't know if I agree with your sentiment regarding separate bicycle
lanes. (Seperate) If by bicycle "lanes" you mean "paths" I'd strongly
disagree with you. Bicycle paths in the US are severely neglected.
1. Bike paths don't benefit from regular "street cleaning"
2. Bike paths generally do not present good visibility (narrow, blind
corners, etc.)
3. Bike paths are not maintained as well/often as motor roadways.
(Repaving/re-surfacing)
4. Bike paths (or bicycle riders) become ghetto-ized. "Why don't you
use the bike path!"
5. The likelihood of injuries and accidents increases because bike
paths get used by joggers, baby strollers, roller-bladers, etc., all of
which have a present a a multitude of large speed differentials
compared to bicyclists, making accidents more likely.

If anything, this case demonstrates that we need more stringent laws
and penalties regarding reckless driving. I don't know the details of
this case, but in my mind, use of a cell phone while driving in any
fashion constitutes reckless driving. I know the person wasn't charged
with reckless driving in this case, but she certainly should have been.

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Old December 1st 06, 10:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,misc.consumers.frugal-living,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
richard
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones


"Yarper" wrote in message
ups.com...
Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist, due directly
to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz, who ironically is listed as
working for a personal-injury law firm.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.


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Stark was so far off the road that she hit Mr. Wilhelm from behind with the
driver's side of her car. He was wearing a helmet.

Stark, who had three prior convictions since May 2005 one for disregarding a
traffic light and two for speeding. The last speeding conviction came about
five weeks before she hit Mr. Wilhelm.
end quotes

The man on the bicycle was doing nothing wrong. if Ms Stark had not hit him,
she would have been easily off the road entirely. There is no alarm for
improving bike paths. As one of these cases even rarely happens, even rarer
with a death of the biker.

But I do not feel that an improper lane usage charge is not adequate as
there was a human life involved, which is a test for reckless operation, and
that test was met with flying colors.
I have a sneaking hunch this will not be the last time we will hear about
Ms. Stark and her cell phone.


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Old December 1st 06, 10:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
Karen Newton
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones

Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.


"damyth" wrote in message
ups.com...

Yarper wrote:
Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist, due directly
to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz, who ironically is listed as
working for a personal-injury law firm.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.


I don't know if I agree with your sentiment regarding separate bicycle
lanes. (Seperate) If by bicycle "lanes" you mean "paths" I'd strongly
disagree with you. Bicycle paths in the US are severely neglected.
1. Bike paths don't benefit from regular "street cleaning"
2. Bike paths generally do not present good visibility (narrow, blind
corners, etc.)
3. Bike paths are not maintained as well/often as motor roadways.
(Repaving/re-surfacing)
4. Bike paths (or bicycle riders) become ghetto-ized. "Why don't you
use the bike path!"
5. The likelihood of injuries and accidents increases because bike
paths get used by joggers, baby strollers, roller-bladers, etc., all of
which have a present a a multitude of large speed differentials
compared to bicyclists, making accidents more likely.

If anything, this case demonstrates that we need more stringent laws
and penalties regarding reckless driving. I don't know the details of
this case, but in my mind, use of a cell phone while driving in any
fashion constitutes reckless driving. I know the person wasn't charged
with reckless driving in this case, but she certainly should have been.



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Old December 1st 06, 10:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,misc.consumers.frugal-living,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
Butch Haynes
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones


"Yarper" wrote in message
ups.com...
Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist, due directly
to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz, who ironically is listed as
working for a personal-injury law firm.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.


Yes, yes-- and have the bike lanes lead directly to places like Amsterdam's
legal brothels and famous red light district with girls in the windows ;-)

Butch


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Old December 1st 06, 10:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
Karen Newton
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones

Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.


"Butch Haynes" wrote in message
...

"Yarper" wrote in message
ups.com...
Clear and obvious guilt. Result? A slap on the wrist, due directly
to Democratic State Attorney Julia Reitz, who ironically is listed as
working for a personal-injury law firm.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/loc...cyclists_death

What we need in the USA is separate bicycle lanes, like
they have throughout Denmark and parts of Holland.


Yes, yes-- and have the bike lanes lead directly to places like
Amsterdam's legal brothels and famous red light district with girls in the
windows ;-)

Butch



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Old December 1st 06, 10:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
Yarper
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones


Karen Newton wrote:
Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.


You're right, riding a bicycle has nothing to do
with frugality. Frugal people drive SUVs.

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Old December 1st 06, 10:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,misc.legal,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.cellular.verizon
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Default Bicyclist killed by woman driver who was downloading cell phone ring tones


"Yarper" wrote in message
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Karen Newton wrote:
Please don't cross-post to the frugal living group.


You're right, riding a bicycle has nothing to do
with frugality. Frugal people drive SUVs.


And download ringtones on Verizon cellphones.


 




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