Yet another broken spoke

jim beam wrote:
Peter Cole wrote:
jim beam wrote:
Peter Cole wrote:
jim beam wrote:

[vacuum degassed steel]

as for chronology, the benefits have been known for a long time -
since the 30's i believe, but knowing about it, being able to
produce it, and /paying/ for it are all completely different
things. i don't believe that an auto industry that will save 6' of
copper wire by using the same bulb for brake lights and turn
signals, or not using washers/gaskets on spark plugs, has the
/slightest/ interest in paying extra for vacuum degassed steels
when cheap cast iron crap will do.

An interesting report from *1966*:
http://stinet.dtic.mil/oai/oai?&verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier =AD0803703


"VACUUM-DEGASSED STEELS FROM THE CONSUMER'S VIEWPOINT

Numerous industrial users were asked for their appraisal of
vacuum-degassed steel. Their responses regarding the merits of this
vacuum treatment were varied. ...

Unfortunately, many of the users could not give a meaningful
evaluation because they knew that frequently their suppliers filled
orders with vacuum-degassed steels even though such treatment was
not specified."

Sounds like cost wasn't a deal breaker even in 1966.

dude, you are /so/ freakin' twisted. if they're using it for re-bar,
you can be damned sure they're _not_ going to notice the difference -
other than wasting money of course. if they're using it for elevator
rope wire, you can be sure they will - and it's money well spent.

You missed the point (deliberately?). Cost wasn't an issue in 1966.

eh??????????????????? possibly the most bizarre statement i've ever seen.

For spokes, not rebar.

and you've just contradicted yourself on dates.

How's that?

How's that, again?