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Old February 10th 09, 02:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...iguez_steroids

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Old February 10th 09, 03:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Anton Berlin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...iguez_steroids


How long is he banned?
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Old February 10th 09, 08:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Anton Berlin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...iguez_steroids


I though an a-rod was a component from an internal combustion engine
until I tried Smirnoff.

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Old February 10th 09, 12:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Feb 10, 3:02*am, Donald Munro wrote:
Anton Berlin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...rodriguez_ster...


I though an a-rod was a component from an internal combustion engine
until I tried Smirnoff.


I wish they would cancel the whole season.

Andre
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Old February 10th 09, 02:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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The Four Levels of Self Deception and Rationalization: AKA:
Drinking the Kool-Aid!

Level 1 (Childish Fantasies) Easter Bunny and Santa Claus

Level 2 (Adult Dementia) Virgin Births, 5000 year old Earth, Jesus and
god, etc

Level 3 (Full on Delusions) Most residents of Salt Lake City and Utah

Level 4 (Viena Clinic Admission) Those that think Lance never doped.
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Old February 10th 09, 03:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Anton Berlin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...iguez_steroids


An interesting take on this (it mentions Flandis, too):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...y/?eref=sircrc
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Old February 10th 09, 04:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Feb 9, 7:41*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
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What's so ballsy about admitting to something after you've been caught?
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Old February 10th 09, 08:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Scott" wrote in message
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On Feb 9, 7:41 pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...rodriguez_ster...


What's so ballsy about admitting to something after you've been
caught?


And for which there is apparently no downside? No nullification of
contract, no suspension... this is hardly equivalent to cycling. The
doping pe se may be equivalent, but not the ramifications of being
caught or admitting to it afterward.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
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Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


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Old February 10th 09, 09:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Feb 10, 3:19*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message

...
On Feb 9, 7:41 pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...rodriguez_ster...
What's so ballsy about admitting to something after you've been
caught?


And for which there is apparently no downside? No nullification of
contract, no suspension... this is hardly equivalent to cycling. The
doping pe se may be equivalent, but not the ramifications of being
caught or admitting to it afterward.


dumbass,

a close equivalent in cycling would be the ressiot/L'Equipe/LNDD case
with armstrong, which had no professional consequences for armstrong.

pay-rod's samples were collected as part of a survey to assess the
prevalence of doping in baseball and the results were never to have
been released, but by a series of unexpected events the names were
given to the MLBPA (and leaked to SI I assume).

the war on doping in MLB is in it's infancy compared to in cycling,
and neither the athletes nor the dope cops have developed the
sophistication that they have in cycling.

a-roid could simply have dismissed the notion that he tested positive
(the way armstrong did) because it wasn't a properly executed doping
control. no one in MLB would have any reason to pursue it any further
because steroid use wasn't even against the rules at the time.

i don't think the book on pay-rod is closed, because in the US, even
more than in europe, there are politically and publicity motivated
journalists and prosecutors who will want to pursue this case and this
may compel the authorities to bring charges against a-roid. unlike
ADAs, the police can investigate a-rod. if he took steroids, he
probably did something illegal that he could be charged for (wire
fraud, transporting drugs across state borders or some other obscure
offense).

MLB could even sanction him - why even though it wasn't against the
rules at the time ? because they can make up the rules as they go
along, though i don't expct this to happen because bud selig is a
pussy and/or complicit in the doping in MLB.

but pay-road has already gotten more ****ed than a cyclist in the same
situation.
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Old February 11th 09, 02:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Ryan Cousineau
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Default A-Rod has more balls that Armstrong

In article
,
Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Feb 10, 3:19*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message

...
On Feb 9, 7:41 pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/...rodriguez_ster...
What's so ballsy about admitting to something after you've been
caught?


And for which there is apparently no downside? No nullification of
contract, no suspension... this is hardly equivalent to cycling. The
doping pe se may be equivalent, but not the ramifications of being
caught or admitting to it afterward.


dumbass,

a close equivalent in cycling would be the ressiot/L'Equipe/LNDD case
with armstrong, which had no professional consequences for armstrong.

pay-rod's samples were collected as part of a survey to assess the
prevalence of doping in baseball and the results were never to have
been released, but by a series of unexpected events the names were
given to the MLBPA (and leaked to SI I assume).

the war on doping in MLB is in it's infancy compared to in cycling,
and neither the athletes nor the dope cops have developed the
sophistication that they have in cycling.

a-roid could simply have dismissed the notion that he tested positive
(the way armstrong did) because it wasn't a properly executed doping
control. no one in MLB would have any reason to pursue it any further
because steroid use wasn't even against the rules at the time.

i don't think the book on pay-rod is closed, because in the US, even
more than in europe, there are politically and publicity motivated
journalists and prosecutors who will want to pursue this case and this
may compel the authorities to bring charges against a-roid. unlike
ADAs, the police can investigate a-rod. if he took steroids, he
probably did something illegal that he could be charged for (wire
fraud, transporting drugs across state borders or some other obscure
offense).


I think that Steroids, at that time, were a Schedule III drug (still
are), because I looked this up.

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/steroids.html

Unless he had a valid prescription (possible) he's susceptible to
prosecution. If he did have a valid script, it's probably not illegal,
but his doctor likely did something unethical.

MLB could even sanction him - why even though it wasn't against the
rules at the time ? because they can make up the rules as they go
along, though i don't expct this to happen because bud selig is a
pussy and/or complicit in the doping in MLB.


The MLBPA is much stronger union than the, er, UCI? PCA? Whatever. I
think it would be a violation of the MLBPA/owner's agreement of the time
if they tried to sanction Rodriguez.

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