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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
I kept waiting for Phil to exclaim "I can't work under these
conditions!!!" and leave. Which would serve this race organization right. Not only "technical difficulties" (actually, "near-total inability") to broadcast footage of the racing, but inept motorcycle drivers who didn't follow the action. If this had been the TdF, we could have seen the descent from Independence Pass into Aspen. I rode that one "several" times during the early 70's; I haven't seen it in recent years but I understand the road is not vastly improved IRT width, guardrails, etc. Especially for a large group, that's a fairly technical descent, and it was raining (BTDT on that road, too, since it rains often in the afternoon-early evening). There were some gaps opened up, certainly. Maybe we'll get to see some replay today? Since the replay during the show seemed to work, maybe they should have just shown the whole stage on replay? "Ice on the wings"? Didn't they run even one test on the TV equipment before the race started? Or at least fix it overnight, after Day 1 was totally screwed? What an embarrassment to my country. For shame! --D-y |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
On Aug 25, 9:24*am, --D-y wrote:
I kept waiting for Phil to exclaim "I can't work under these conditions!!!" and leave. Which would serve this race organization right. Not only "technical difficulties" (actually, "near-total inability") to broadcast footage of the racing, but inept motorcycle drivers who didn't follow the action. If this had been the TdF, we could have seen the descent from Independence Pass into Aspen. I rode that one "several" times during the early 70's; I haven't seen it in recent years but I understand the road is not vastly improved IRT width, guardrails, etc. Especially for a large group, that's a fairly technical descent, and it was raining (BTDT on that road, too, since it rains often in the afternoon-early evening). There were some gaps opened up, certainly. Maybe we'll get to see some replay today? Since the replay during the show seemed to work, maybe they should have just shown the whole stage on replay? "Ice on the wings"? Didn't they run even one test on the TV equipment before the race started? Or at least fix it overnight, after Day 1 was totally screwed? What an embarrassment to my country. For shame! Much better today. Technically anyhow. I'm wondering how well they will be able to cover multiple riders by moto-cam when they get to the contenders. DR |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
"--D-y" wrote in message
... I kept waiting for Phil to exclaim "I can't work under these conditions!!!" and leave. Which would serve this race organization right. Not only "technical difficulties" (actually, "near-total inability") to broadcast footage of the racing, but inept motorcycle drivers who didn't follow the action. If this had been the TdF, we could have seen the descent from Independence Pass into Aspen. I rode that one "several" times during the early 70's; I haven't seen it in recent years but I understand the road is not vastly improved IRT width, guardrails, etc. Especially for a large group, that's a fairly technical descent, and it was raining (BTDT on that road, too, since it rains often in the afternoon-early evening). There were some gaps opened up, certainly. Maybe we'll get to see some replay today? Since the replay during the show seemed to work, maybe they should have just shown the whole stage on replay? "Ice on the wings"? Didn't they run even one test on the TV equipment before the race started? Or at least fix it overnight, after Day 1 was totally screwed? What an embarrassment to my country. For shame! --D-y Maybe, but it looks to be quite an impressive race & venue. Impressive crowds in many places, especially Independence Pass and the last 4k or so of the TT course today. I hope this race continues. The timing is interesting, since it's after the Giro & TdF and during the Vuelta... so even when you get the top guys (who aren't riding the Vuelta) they'll be a bit on the downside from their TdF efforts and not highly-motivated. On the other hand, the guys who didn't do as well as they'd have liked at the TdF have something to prove. It's become a more interesting race than I expected. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
On Aug 25, 1:46*pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Aug 25, 9:24*am, --D-y wrote: I kept waiting for Phil to exclaim "I can't work under these conditions!!!" and leave. Which would serve this race organization right. Not only "technical difficulties" (actually, "near-total inability") to broadcast footage of the racing, but inept motorcycle drivers who didn't follow the action. If this had been the TdF, we could have seen the descent from Independence Pass into Aspen. I rode that one "several" times during the early 70's; I haven't seen it in recent years but I understand the road is not vastly improved IRT width, guardrails, etc. Especially for a large group, that's a fairly technical descent, and it was raining (BTDT on that road, too, since it rains often in the afternoon-early evening). There were some gaps opened up, certainly. Maybe we'll get to see some replay today? Since the replay during the show seemed to work, maybe they should have just shown the whole stage on replay? "Ice on the wings"? Didn't they run even one test on the TV equipment before the race started? Or at least fix it overnight, after Day 1 was totally screwed? What an embarrassment to my country. For shame! Much better today. Technically anyhow. I'm wondering how well they will be able to cover multiple riders by moto-cam when they get to the contenders. Actually pretty well done although someone should tell the the camera operators that they could back off a bit or move more to the side so we could see an entire rider and all the nuances of his pedaling rather than just a full frame closeup of a back and ass. DR |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
My impression from the coverage is that there are more attention-
seeking freaks on the mountain passes in US races than in Europe. Total freak show. |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
On Aug 26, 10:22*am, Brad Anders wrote:
My impression from the coverage is that there are more attention- seeking freaks on the mountain passes in US races than in Europe. Total freak show. Or more TV producers pandering to the masses. Freaks sell. R |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
On Aug 25, 11:11*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: "--D-y" wrote in message ... I kept waiting for Phil to exclaim "I can't work under these conditions!!!" and leave. Which would serve this race organization right. Not only "technical difficulties" (actually, "near-total inability") to broadcast footage of the racing, but inept motorcycle drivers who didn't follow the action. If this had been the TdF, we could have seen the descent from Independence Pass into Aspen. I rode that one "several" times during the early 70's; I haven't seen it in recent years but I understand the road is not vastly improved IRT width, guardrails, etc. Especially for a large group, that's a fairly technical descent, and it was raining (BTDT on that road, too, since it rains often in the afternoon-early evening). There were some gaps opened up, certainly. Maybe we'll get to see some replay today? Since the replay during the show seemed to work, maybe they should have just shown the whole stage on replay? "Ice on the wings"? Didn't they run even one test on the TV equipment before the race started? Or at least fix it overnight, after Day 1 was totally screwed? What an embarrassment to my country. For shame! --D-y Maybe, but it looks to be quite an impressive race & venue. Impressive crowds in many places, especially Independence Pass and the last 4k or so of the TT course today. I hope this race continues. The timing is interesting, since it's after the Giro & TdF and during the Vuelta... so even when you get the top guys (who aren't riding the Vuelta) they'll be a bit on the downside from their TdF efforts and not highly-motivated. On the other hand, the guys who didn't do as well as they'd have liked at the TdF have something to prove. It's become a more interesting race than I expected. I saw the Zinger/Coors a couple of times including the day Johnathan/ Jaques Boy-er/Boy-A got his laps back. Funny about how getting good racers together makes for good racing g. Yes, I want this one to continue (FWIW) and that's why I'm squawking. I noted Levi's "I was cold and shivering" yesterday. Very much a big part of the game and one trip down toward Aspen from Independence I got caught out when I knew better and survived a popped-open original Dura Ace front caliper plus "shivering" with little drops of ice appearing on my leg hairs ("why racers *really* shave") on what started out as a hot summer day. And that, a short ride that turned back well before the top when the storm rolled in-- which is a near- daily occurrence at times on that hill. I hope they get serious (the TV transmission problems did not get fixed overnight) and make this race happen on a yearly basis. Fix the TV uploads, first, and the second first, get some moto drivers who know WTF is up. Seriously... --D-y |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
On Aug 26, 9:22*am, Brad Anders wrote:
My impression from the coverage is that there are more attention- seeking freaks on the mountain passes in US races than in Europe. Total freak show. No barricades in finish line run-up, and intoxicated idiots-- altitude doesn't help anything there! Another place the moto riders were sorely lacking in performance. They're probably mostly a group of volunteers. Maybe next year we'll see a true corps at work. --D-y |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
On 8/26/2011 12:57 PM, --D-y wrote:
I saw the Zinger/Coors a couple of times including the day Johnathan/ Jaques Boy-er/Boy-A got his laps back. Funny about how getting good racers together makes for good racingg. Hoo Boy - this was a while ago but my aging memory banks are telling me it was the Estes park Crit ? I have a great picture of Jock winning that race coming across the finish line in his "hairnet" helmet, with it unfastened lol He rode for GS Mengoni that year. Bill -- William R. Mattil http://www.celestial-images.com |
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Pitiful TV coverage of the USA "PRO" Cycling Challenge
On Aug 26, 1:12*pm, "William R. Mattil"
wrote: On 8/26/2011 12:57 PM, --D-y wrote: I saw the Zinger/Coors a couple of times including the day Johnathan/ Jaques Boy-er/Boy-A got his laps back. Funny about how getting good racers together makes for good racingg. Hoo Boy - this was a while ago but my aging memory banks are telling me it was the Estes park Crit ? *I have a great picture of Jock winning that race coming across the finish line in his "hairnet" helmet, with it unfastened lol He rode for GS Mengoni that year. North Boulder Park, I believe. 1980. The riders in the break made Boyer do all the work, from what I saw, while Londono and others were roughed up in the "chase". Michel Pollentier single-handedly blocked the "chase" pack for many laps on that short course. Yes, the helmet was unfastened and the race announcer threatened Boyer with some kind of sanction-- I guess they didn't dare repeat the 5- minute Centerline Violation biz-ness from '79? Whatever, there is tradition both on the positive and negative sides of the coin, so to speak. I hope they "go pro" and make this thing work, although I think the races in Columbia might actually go higher in altitude g. --D-y |
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