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Old October 17th 13, 05:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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CRIMP is an indented cylinder with indents gripping hose...so what screws in ? the crimp ?

check McMaster for matching 'push on' connectors/hose

Ace or True Value stocked well call first.

one here uses a round of leather...

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Old October 18th 13, 06:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Removing crimped hose from Medai pump

On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:21:50 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:

If your replacement hose has a different thread for the pump

base, snip the band with a side cutter and use a stainless

hose clamp.

(some guys report a zip tie is sufficient but I prefer a

hose clamp; under a dollar)



I took your advice and cut off the crimp, and there was a nib underneath. I got a Planet Bike replacement hose with their dual-head on it, and attached it to the nib with a zip tie, because I had one handy. Seems to work fine! Thank you.

There is something I like about keeping the old gear going. As I said, this pump is 40 years old. I have a Silca track pump from the same era. I recently tried a Lezyne floor pump (that's another story) but it seemed like it was from another planet, compared to my old gear.

BC
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Old October 18th 13, 07:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, October 18, 2013 1:55:44 PM UTC-4, BCDrums wrote:

There is something I like about keeping the old gear going.


I agree completely. Some new stuff is better than the old, of course; but it seems like lots of new stuff is different just to be different or "Innovative!" whether or not it works better. Other new stuff is designed for very easy manufacture, but is impossible to repair.

My floor pump (just like yours) is decades old and still bulletproof. My kid's similar floor pump is plastic, flexible, and always feels like it's about to break.

- Frank Krygowski
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Old October 18th 13, 07:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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the replacement hose....tellus the number wudja ?
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Old October 18th 13, 07:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, October 18, 2013 2:46:16 PM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:
the replacement hose....tellus the number wudja ?


It's part #1012.
http://ecom1.planetbike.com/1012.html

I have used the PB pump head before, and it has a life span, after which the rubber compression washers wear out and the seal begins to leak at the valve. But the head is $6 shipped, the hose with head is $10 shipped, and they seem to be a great little company. I sent an email asking the inside diameter of the hose (5mm) and they responded promptly.

I use this pump primarily for shraeder valves on the car tires & kid bikes, but I tested the presta fitting today and worked well.

BC
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Old October 20th 13, 04:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
:On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:37:54 PM UTC-4, BCDrums wrote:
:
:
: Nope, it's a Medai. I found a picture of it he
: http://www.bikepro.com/products/pumps/medai.html
:
: These pictures say 1996, mine is twenty years older than that but almost identical in appearance. The one I have is branded as a Raleigh.

:Looks absolutely identical to mine, which says Nashbar. I probably got mine in the mid-1990s.

:Mine came with a threaded hose end of some kind that screwed into the cast foot of the pump. I'm sure that Andrew is right, that you can cut it loose, then hose clamp a new hose in place.

:If you have trouble finding a hose clamp that small, there's a trick I

You need to go to an auto parts store? SAE size #04 clamps are
readily available. They clamp down to 1/4 inch (and usually, just a
little bit less, but that's not in the spec.) Less than that, I'd use
a zip tie. Specialized clamps exist, but they're hard to get and
expensive, because they're specialized. And for something not safety
critical, a zip tie will work fine, last for a long time, is dirt
cheap, and way easier than whipping with wire. I'd put a hose clamp
on a zip tie before I'd do that.

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Old October 20th 13, 05:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Saturday, October 19, 2013 11:09:27 PM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:


:If you have trouble finding a hose clamp that small, there's a trick I

You need to go to an auto parts store? SAE size #04 clamps are
readily available. They clamp down to 1/4 inch (and usually, just a
little bit less, but that's not in the spec.) Less than that, I'd use
a zip tie. Specialized clamps exist, but they're hard to get and
expensive, because they're specialized. And for something not safety
critical, a zip tie will work fine, last for a long time, is dirt
cheap, and way easier than whipping with wire. I'd put a hose clamp
on a zip tie before I'd do that.


Nope. Won't work with this pump. The pump has a separate screw-on hose that stows inside the main tube (or shaft) of the pump. That tube ID (just measured) is 0.365". The hose is about 0.288" OD. Putting a small zip tie on that would give an effective (i.e. max) diameter of 0.42". It won't come close to fitting inside the tube.

My wire wrap measures 0.334" OD. It fits. Granted, some other crimp-on hose clamp could also work, but by the time I'd go to the auto parts store, search, buy and return, I can get the wire wrap done. The materials are at hand.

- Frank Krygowski
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Old October 20th 13, 07:29 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 11:09:27 PM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:


:If you have trouble finding a hose clamp that small, there's a trick I

You need to go to an auto parts store? SAE size #04 clamps are
readily available. They clamp down to 1/4 inch (and usually, just a
little bit less, but that's not in the spec.) Less than that, I'd use
a zip tie. Specialized clamps exist, but they're hard to get and
expensive, because they're specialized. And for something not safety
critical, a zip tie will work fine, last for a long time, is dirt
cheap, and way easier than whipping with wire. I'd put a hose clamp
on a zip tie before I'd do that.


Nope. Won't work with this pump. The pump has a separate screw-on hose that stows inside the main tube (or shaft) of the pump. That tube ID (just measured) is 0.365". The hose is about 0.288" OD. Putting a small zip tie on that would give an effective (i.e. max) diameter of 0.42". It won't come close to fitting inside the tube.

My wire wrap measures 0.334" OD. It fits. Granted, some other crimp-on hose clamp could also work, but by the time I'd go to the auto parts store, search, buy and return, I can get the wire wrap done. The materials are at hand.

- Frank Krygowski


In the marine world it is called "whipping" and has been used for
centuries to hold things together.
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Old October 20th 13, 10:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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