Herald Sun reader comments on death of James Gould

Theo Bekkers Wrote:

Let's blame the victim. Old bloke walked accross the crosswalk after a
bunch
of cyclists stopped for him. How silly is that?


So you're an actual eyewitness now? FFS..


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cfsmtb

Hey, check out this cnut:
http://tinyurl.com/fyr6q

It's about the operator, or operator error.


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On 2006-08-30, DaveB (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
Aaaagh the Herald Sun is driving me mad (okay some may say that is my
fault for reading the Herald Sun). but in three pieces about this
accident I've seen reference to riders speeding, racing, and tearing
along Beach Rd at speeds up to 60kmh. What I'd like to know is since
when was doing up to 60kmh in a 60kmh zone speeding, and where did they
find 200 riders in melbourne that can ride at 60kmh on a flat road?

Can one of the regular or occasional riders fill me in on what th epeak
speeds really are and how long they last (I'm tipping they're limited to
Olivers Hill).

Oliver's Hill, 60 or 70.

(uphill 20 or 30

flats, 45 or 50 depending on who's driving.

There are enough undulations and stoplights that the average is
brought down to 40 or 42.

That's my experience from the day (the average is well documented
though).

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DaveB wrote:
Aaaagh the Herald Sun is driving me mad (okay some may say that is my
fault for reading the Herald Sun). but in three pieces about this
accident I've seen reference to riders speeding, racing, and tearing
along Beach Rd at speeds up to 60kmh. What I'd like to know is since
when was doing up to 60kmh in a 60kmh zone speeding, and where did they
find 200 riders in melbourne that can ride at 60kmh on a flat road?

Can one of the regular or occasional riders fill me in on what th epeak
speeds really are and how long they last (I'm tipping they're limited to
Olivers Hill).

DaveB

50+km an hour for most of the way. 60km is quite doable in a medium
sized bunch.

To me it is not like a race, it is mostly aimed at a hard effort and
keeping th bunch together, that's not racing.

Problems come when less trained people are at their limit just to hang
on, then they don't want to stop

cfsmtb wrote:
Theo Bekkers Wrote:

Let's blame the victim. Old bloke walked accross the crosswalk after
a bunch
of cyclists stopped for him. How silly is that?

So you're an actual eyewitness now? FFS..

Just reading the news stories as they unfold. And you?

Theo

Theo Bekkers Wrote:


Just reading the news stories as they unfold. And you?


Who ****ed in your cornflakes today eh?

As you enquire, I'm actually attempting to take on this potential
backlash and media firestorm by assisting with sending out Wheels of
Justice media releases, managing the website enquiries, engaging with
the media, cycling groups and individuals et al.

Wheels of Justice Media Release
http://www.woj.com.au/2006/08/29/whe...media-release/

Let alone all the other unpaid work I do for my local BUG. All unpaid
voluntary work. WTF do you do Theo? Anything?


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cfsmtb

On 2006-08-30, cfsmtb wrote:
Theo Bekkers Wrote:
Just reading the news stories as they unfold. And you?

Who ****ed in your cornflakes today eh?

I could ask the same question of you. I have the distinct impression
that you're taking more offence at what's being written here than is
actually warranted.

Take a step back from the computer, stretch, and take a deep breath.
*Both* of you.

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BrettS wrote:

Just like when you push a stroller across a zebra crossing, you can't
assume anything...

Well, can you explain what all those mothers who blindly push them onto
busy roads are doing?

Stuart Lamble Wrote:


I could ask the same question of you. I have the distinct impression
that you're taking more offence at what's being written here than is
actually warranted.

Haahaa, you vainly tring to read the riot act on moi, Stuart?

After awhile we all get sick of this open slander trolling crap, and a
line has to be drawn, err, "typed". You don't like it when someone
*actually* stands up to it?

Deal with it, it's the internerd


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cfsmtb

cfsmtb wrote:
Theo Bekkers Wrote:

Just reading the news stories as they unfold. And you?

Who ****ed in your cornflakes today eh?

Never eat cereals. I think it was Neiwand that ****ed in peoples food and
drink.

As you enquire, I'm actually attempting to take on this potential
backlash and media firestorm by assisting with sending out Wheels of
Justice media releases, managing the website enquiries, engaging with
the media, cycling groups and individuals et al.

Good for you.

Wheels of Justice Media Release
http://www.woj.com.au/2006/08/29/whe...media-release/

Hmm, that doesn't do it for me. Looks like a whitewash. Sorry.

Let alone all the other unpaid work I do for my local BUG. All unpaid
voluntary work. WTF do you do Theo? Anything?

Hehehehe. Where do you want me to start? The Vinnies, the Keep Oz Beautiful
Council, the Adult Literacy Council, the Red Cross, the Bush Fire Brigades,
or just regular monetary donations?

Theo