Less roads more relief.

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:

It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.

I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?

Brimstone wrote:

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:

It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.

I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?

Even if I did (and I don't think I do), the complaint would be levied against
those who have it in their power to increase (or reverse reductions in)
capacity, but fail to, despite having no financial excuses for doing so.

JNugent wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:

It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.

I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?

Even if I did (and I don't think I do),

One man's justifiable complaint is another man's rant.

the complaint would be levied
against those who have it in their power to increase (or reverse
reductions in) capacity, but fail to, despite having no financial
excuses for doing so.

But there are reasons for not building new roads that have nothing to do
with finances.

"Brimstone" wrote in
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JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:

It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.

I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?

Why are you such a pompous nit-picker?

Mr. Benn wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in
:

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:

It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.

I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?

Why are you such a pompous nit-picker?

Take a look in the mirror and ask again.

Mr. Benn wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in
:

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:
It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.
I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?

Why are you such a pompous nit-picker?

He's one of those that could start an argument in an empty room.
cue for predicted answer

Bod

Bod wrote in news:7fcd01F2kus0uU1
@mid.individual.net:

Mr. Benn wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in
:

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:
It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.
I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?

Why are you such a pompous nit-picker?

He's one of those that could start an argument in an empty room.
cue for predicted answer

No I couldn't! :-)

Mr. Benn wrote:
Bod wrote in news:7fcd01F2kus0uU1
@mid.individual.net:

Mr. Benn wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in
:

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:
It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in
being the traffic they despise so much.
I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

So why do you complain about congestion so much?
Why are you such a pompous nit-picker?
He's one of those that could start an argument in an empty room.
cue for predicted answer

No I couldn't! :-)

chuckle

Bod

JNugent wrote:
Keitht wrote:

JNugent wrote:



Well, certainly not if your negative attitude to other peoples'
transport needs and choices prevails. What's your motto? "I'm alright,
Jack. I don't need to travel all that much and I couldn;t care less
about others"?

It's more that many motorists refuse to acknowledge thier part in being
the traffic they despise so much.

I don't despise other people trying to get on with their lives.

That's you, that is. It's written all over you.
(is this Newman and Baddiel again?)

I don't see it as being negative, more realiastic - pragmatic, if you like.
There is not enough road space for those who want to use it in the UK.
You have yet to provide any suggestion to fix this that is practical -
just saying 'build more roads' comes with no perspective, no
consideration of how this could be achieved.
I'm asking how that could be done when recent history shows that you can
never get to the 'wide open roads' scenario that you have been conned in
to thinking is achievable in the UK.
The only roads I know of that do give some of that experience are where
older roads have been bypassed with new roads and the new roads are
stuffed with traffic that follows the road signs. It's only the locals
and few that dare to venture away from ****-Nav that use them.


New main roads in the UK are not there to provide a relaxing driving
experience but usually to relieve traffic buld-up. Once the traffic is
away from the town it now by-passes it can clog up elsewhere, that's
what a lot of the new roads seem to be for -- instead of a rolling car
park going through a town , the rolling car park is now out of sight.
Why do you think so many are called 'relief road' or 'by-pass'? It's to
take traffic away from towns - not in to them.

Yes, we could have multi-lane, multi-deck roads but is it your home that
will be gladly given up to make space?
No chance!


I do not despise anyone 'trying to get on with thier lives' but that
also means there has to be some form of acknowledgmetn that other peope
also want to get on with their lives and not have some **** decide that
they need to get from A to B ten minutes quicker.
Those people I despise as they are selfish and have no regard at all for
others, just playing Mr Toad is what they want "Poop! Poop! Out of my way!"

Like I say - put your own home on the list to be demolished first, draw
plans up so that the flyover goes over your home.
Don't like the idea? Then don't expect others to like it either.


For over 400 years there has been complaints about the traffic in
London. All the road 'improvements' have done is to create the
impression it makes things eaiser but it is only done to briefly ease
congestion in small areas. It was so bad in the 1600's that it was
quicker to take your chances on shooting london Bridge in a small boat
than trying to get from Charing Cross to Tower Pier by coach.


You have two options, chill or rant - guess which one will be better for
you? So far you've only shown you can complain - not suggest anything
that has been thought out first.

Until your personal atomic-powered auto-gyro arrives you are ****ed.
Live with it.


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JNugent wrote:


Do you want the latest road built to be used or unused?

meh

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