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Old November 12th 12, 03:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Nov 12, 9:22*am, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:39:03 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

I wonder what the real proportion is?


Psycholists always say that it almost never, ever happens, this survey shows
it does with amazing frequency.


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...ts-knocked-off...


Oh dear, oh dear:

Its survey also revealed that 13 per cent of cyclists have accidentally damaged
a vehicle while out riding, and 16 per cent confessing to hitting a pedestrian
with their bike.


And that pedestrian is getting really ****ed off.
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Old November 12th 12, 03:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"PhilO" wrote in message
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On Monday, November 12, 2012 1:46:20 PM UTC, Judith wrote:

Its survey also revealed that 13 per cent of cyclists have accidentally
damaged a vehicle while out riding


Given that almost half of the cyclists have been knocked off by a vehicle,
only 13% damaging vehicles seems surprisingly low.

Don't you think?


How is one relevant to the other?

And a point of order here, it says that 40% of "25-34 age group" claim to
have been knocked off by "car, van or lorry", but the "45-54" age group are
*half* as likely to have been knocked off.

So adding together both age groups, the *total* percentage of cyclists
surveyed who are claiming to have been knocked off by a car, van or lorry
must be *below* 40%, nowhere near "almost half".

Yet it's claimed that 42% (almost half!) claim to have been knocked off by
"other road users". So which "other road users" who are knocking people off
bikes are these extra percentage points coming from? Other cyclists?

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Old November 12th 12, 04:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:03:10 -0000, Mrcheerful wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:22:50 +0000, Judith
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:39:03 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

I wonder what the real proportion is?

Psycholists always say that it almost never, ever happens, this
survey shows it does with amazing frequency.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...y-8305950.html



Oh dear, oh dear:

Its survey also revealed that 13 per cent of cyclists have
accidentally damaged a vehicle while out riding, and 16 per cent
confessing to hitting a pedestrian with their bike.


I wonder what percent of motorists have accidentally damaged a vehicle
while out driving.

My wife has managed this three times in the last 16 months alone.


relevance to cycling: nil


He is showing cycling is safer than driving you ****ing numpty.

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Old November 12th 12, 04:24 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:18:12 -0000, PhilO wrote:

On Monday, November 12, 2012 1:46:20 PM UTC, Judith wrote:

Its survey also revealed that 13 per cent of cyclists have accidentally damaged a vehicle while out riding


Given that almost half of the cyclists have been knocked off by a vehicle, only 13% damaging vehicles seems surprisingly low.

Don't you think?


No. Note the words "accidentally damaged a vehicle". You wouldn't be "accidentally damaging a vehicle" if the vehicle caused th accident.

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Old November 12th 12, 04:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:39:03 -0000, Mrcheerful wrote:

I wonder what the real proportion is?

Psycholists always say that it almost never, ever happens, this survey shows
it does with amazing frequency.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...y-8305950.html


And how many of those 16% actually caused anything more than a cut or bruise or and angry woman flinging her handbag about?

How much damage do you think I'd cause a pedestrian if I did the same with my car?

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Old November 12th 12, 04:57 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:18:12 -0800 (PST), PhilO wrote:

On Monday, November 12, 2012 1:46:20 PM UTC, Judith wrote:

Its survey also revealed that 13 per cent of cyclists have accidentally damaged a vehicle while out riding


Given that almost half of the cyclists have been knocked off by a vehicle, only 13% damaging vehicles seems surprisingly low.

Don't you think?


ffs - you are not bright at all are you?

Whatever makes you think that they are parts of the same group?

44% of the cyclists said that they had been knocked off their bikes by a
vehicle.

13% of cyclists have accidentally damaged a vehicle.


Most of that 13% will be cyclists who have scraped down the side of the
vehicle, banged on the roof and caused criminal damage, banged on the side and
caused criminal or knocked off a wing mirror and then ****ed off smartish.
Nothing at all to do with the incidents where they may or may not have been
knocked off by another vehicle.

Dear oh dear; still, excellent value as always.

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Old November 12th 12, 05:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Monday, November 12, 2012 4:57:29 PM UTC, Judith wrote:

Whatever makes you think that they are parts of the same group?

What makes you think they are not?


Most of that 13% will be cyclists who have scraped down the side of the
vehicle, banged on the roof and caused criminal damage, banged on the side and
caused criminal or knocked off a wing mirror and then ****ed off smartish.
Nothing at all to do with the incidents where they may or may not have been
knocked off by another vehicle.


That's interesting, but can you provide a reference? Or did you just make all that up from supposition and prejudice?

Have you been taking making-it-up lessons from Cheerless.


Dear oh dear; still, excellent value as always.


Happy to show you up anytime.

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Old November 12th 12, 05:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
newsp.wnn48xf3ytk5n5@i7-940...
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:39:03 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

I wonder what the real proportion is?

Psycholists always say that it almost never, ever happens, this survey
shows
it does with amazing frequency.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...y-8305950.html


And how many of those 16% actually caused anything more than a cut or
bruise or and angry woman flinging her handbag about?

How much damage do you think I'd cause a pedestrian if I did the same with
my car?


Do you often drive around on the pavement and/or in pedestrian precincts or
jump red lights at pedestrian crossings?

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Old November 12th 12, 05:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:03:10 -0000, Mrcheerful
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:22:50 +0000, Judith
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:39:03 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

I wonder what the real proportion is?

Psycholists always say that it almost never, ever happens, this
survey shows it does with amazing frequency.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...y-8305950.html



Oh dear, oh dear:

Its survey also revealed that 13 per cent of cyclists have
accidentally damaged a vehicle while out riding, and 16 per cent
confessing to hitting a pedestrian with their bike.

I wonder what percent of motorists have accidentally damaged a vehicle
while out driving.

My wife has managed this three times in the last 16 months alone.


relevance to cycling: nil


He is showing cycling is safer than driving you ****ing numpty.


And how's he doing that? By the scientifically-approved method of comparing
a self-serving cycling poll, against his wife's driving?

All he's shown is that 100% of his wives shouldn't be driving and that only
13-16% of cyclists tell the truth.

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Old November 12th 12, 05:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:01:18 -0800 (PST), PhilO wrote:

On Monday, November 12, 2012 4:57:29 PM UTC, Judith wrote:

Whatever makes you think that they are parts of the same group?

What makes you think they are not?


It is not me who has assumed that they are, or who has assumed that they
aren't; it is you.

It is basic maths and statistics: do not jump to conclusions.


Most of that 13% will be cyclists who have scraped down the side of the
vehicle, banged on the roof and caused criminal damage, banged on the side and
caused criminal or knocked off a wing mirror and then ****ed off smartish.
Nothing at all to do with the incidents where they may or may not have been
knocked off by another vehicle.


That's interesting, but can you provide a reference? Or did you just make all that up from supposition and prejudice?

Have you been taking making-it-up lessons from Cheerless.


Dear oh dear; still, excellent value as always.


Happy to show you up anytime.



Oh you mean like you did when you failed to understand some simple maths that
two or three people have had to explain to you:

"Maths not your strong point, Judith.
Almost half have been knocked off their bike by vehicle, but only 16% of them
causes damage to vehicles."


Obviously much stronger than yours.


Still : keep up the good work : excellent value.

 




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