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Does Slow Johnny still pull the wings off flies
On 1/16/2021 4:54 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 06:11:04 +0700, John B. wrote: https://patternsofevidence.com/2019/...irst-alphabet/ "the first Hebrew writing is called “Old Hebrew” or “Paleo-Hebrew.” This is known from inscriptions found from about 900 BC in the kingdoms of Israel and Judah until the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of many of Judah’s inhabitants to Babylon around 586 BC." More on Old Hebrew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Hebrew_alphabet Compare the Old Hebrew characters with the Hebrew characters in the right hand column. A few a close, but most are very different. Aramaic is the base alphabet for most of the middle eastern languages. Notice on the chart that the Imperial Aramaic and Hebrew characters are fairly similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet#Letters So, why are some characters radically different while others seem to copied from older character sets? What happened is that the spoken languages are not necessarily written in the written language of the same name. Sometimes, the spoken language for a region is a common language, such as Aramaic was in biblical times. Everyone spoke Aramaic, but wrote it in a variety of character sets. Sometimes, either or both the language and character set is specific to the region, trade, politics, status, etc. For example, the Emperor of Japan during WWII had a very different spoke language than what was spoken by the common people. That was to isolate the Emperor from the common people. That worked well until the Emperor Hirohito had to give his famous "Bear the Unbearable" speech near the end of WWII. It went out over loudspeakers and radio to all over Japan. Nobody could understand what he was saying, so it had to be repeated by someone else in the language of the common people. This kind to stratification was very common in biblical times. The priesthood had their own language and character set. The various merchants all spoke Aramaic, but used the written language familiar to those with whom they were trading. Something similar happened with the decoding of the Rosetta Stone. It was the same proclamation written in Egyptian hieroglyphs, Coptic, and Greek. Greek and Coptic could be read, but not the hieroglyphics. What Champollion determined was that hieroglyphs could be read just like Latin characters, where each symbol represents a sound in spoken Egyptian. By substituting the similar Coptic equivalents for the hieroglyphs, Egyptian could be read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone#Reading_the_Rosetta_Stone If you go to Hawaii, they say Hawaiian place names in the native Hawaiian spoken language, but since there wasn't a written language, they just borrowed the Latin characters and pronunciation. Same thing in biblical times. Language and characters were fairly independent. Modern Hebrew is also quite different from biblical Hebrew. When the Zionist movement setup the framework for what was eventually to become Israel, they had a problem with the language. Hebrew was the language of the bible and was not easily converted to something that could be used for everyday commerce. For example, it has very few technical terms. In an effort to find a quick fix, Theodor Hertzl wanted to use Yiddish, which is mediaeval German, as the official language of Israel. Yiddish uses the written Hebrew alphabet, but is spoken in German. It's much like Polish and Russian are fairly similar spoken languages, but Polish is written using Latin characters, while Russian uses Cyrillic (Greek) characters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5MtF70xe8 Anyway, I hope this helps disconnect spoken and written languages. My mother's name was Herz which is nothing more than one of the many spelling variations of Hertz, Hertzl , Herzle etc. which was the Austrian Royal Family. What isn't a matter of discussion is that Moses spoke Aramaic even if he could understand Hebrew. He also spoke and understood middle Egyptian and Median. Moses received not just the Ten Commandments but the Torah or "law" We have that until today. The Talmud is a scholarly interpretation of the Torah and the prophesies of Moses. So was her name Herz or Habsburg? -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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