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Does Slow Johnny still pull the wings off flies
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 06:04:12 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote: "U.S. Air Force personnel shall not cohabitant with indigenous females", and the guy standing next to me asked me to translate it :-) -- Cheers, John B. Rather than 'cohabitant', shouldn't the word used have been 'cohabitate'? I'm pretty sure that the correct word is "cohabit". -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at centurylink dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 19:28:38 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 07:37:00 +0700, John B. wrote: Not to disparage the Torah but until the 1440's all "books" were hand written :-) Not a problem, no offense taken, and as usual, I beg to differ somewhat. The first Gutenberg bible was available for purchase in 1554. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutenberg_Bible#Printing_history Preparation of the Bible probably began soon after 1450, and the first finished copies were available in 1454 or 1455. There were probably prior books printed by Gutenberg that were not bibles. Yup. I should have written "the 1450's" "A contemporary account by a visitor to Mainz indicates that the book was nearly ready in October 1454 and available for sale by March 1455." Prior to the invention of the printing press, there was woodblock printing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodblock_printing which was invented in China in about 200 AD. Woodblock printing does not require a scribe to put his hand on quill or paper. The European version was the woodcut. Although text was possible, it was used mostly for graphics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodcut Re Chinese, Bi Sheng (990-1051 AD) was claimed to have created the world's first known movable type system for printing. An entire Chinese "word" on one slug of type. By the way a Japanese bloke invented a typewriter in 1929 that worked in the same way. And I suspect that Japanese news print is done in a similar way as I believe today's news papers still use both the phonetic and traditional (Chinese) characters. By the way, the cost of the Gutenberg bible, when it left the printer’s workshop was believed to be about thirty florins. I can't convert florins to modern currency but it was said to be a clerk's salary for 3 years, so in modern U.S. terms, perhaps $100,000 https://www.averagesalarysurvey.com/united-states, But of course, back in the day, the common people were not encouraged to read the bible which was intended for only the Clergy. Imagine, if one allowed the Hoi Polloi to read it think of all the different interpretations of "The Word" that might emerge. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 22:46:08 -0500, Joy Beeson
wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 06:04:12 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot wrote: "U.S. Air Force personnel shall not cohabitant with indigenous females", and the guy standing next to me asked me to translate it :-) -- Cheers, John B. Rather than 'cohabitant', shouldn't the word used have been 'cohabitate'? I'm pretty sure that the correct word is "cohabit". Well, as I said, I had to translate it for the guy standing next to me. But honestly, the common term used at the time and amongst the troops the General was addressing was "shack up" as in "thou shall not shack up with the local girls". -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 19:20:24 -0500,
Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/11/2021 6:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:19:35 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 1/11/2021 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Among architects, the use of custom fonts is quite common. The idea is that if someone pirates the architects work, the unique fonts would make the theft obvious in a court of law. In the distant past, we had three architects offices in the office building. All of them used custom fonts. I don't know if they still do that today. Right, I had my all-caps scrawl digitized as a TrueType font. Probably something like that. Sorry, but your scribbling has probably been copyrighted: https://www.1001fonts.com/illegible-fonts.html https://www.fontget.com/discover/illegible/ https://www.myfonts.com/tags/illegible etc... My favorite font is "Faux Hebrew". Sending formatted email or letters to my Jewish friends often results in confusion (followed by profanity): https://www.google.com/search?q=faux+hebrew+font&tbm=isch The ultimate in penmanship are the torah scribes. They transcribe the entire 304,805 word Torah with pen and ink by hand. It takes about 2 years. No corrections are allowed. One mistake and the scrolls are destroyed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Torah It's quite an art and takes many years of practice to achieve perfection. A new torah scroll will cost between $15,000 and $50,000 depending mostly on the quality and consistency of the script: https://www.amazon.com/Authentic-Kosher-Written-Scroll-Reconditioned/dp/B003AT9RKM One of my uncles was a draftsman in Israel back in the 1960's. He augmented his income transcribing torah scrolls. You may enjoy this production of PBS: "A to Z" on alphabets, writing and printing. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/series/a-to-z/ Some interesting information on things like the influence of materials on writing systems, and many lovely scenes of calligraphers at work. +1 Saw this some weeks ago, and agree it's a good watch. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA |
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On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 4:37:08 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:24:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:19:35 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 1/11/2021 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Among architects, the use of custom fonts is quite common. The idea is that if someone pirates the architects work, the unique fonts would make the theft obvious in a court of law. In the distant past, we had three architects offices in the office building. All of them used custom fonts. I don't know if they still do that today. Right, I had my all-caps scrawl digitized as a TrueType font. Probably something like that. Sorry, but your scribbling has probably been copyrighted: https://www.1001fonts.com/illegible-fonts.html https://www.fontget.com/discover/illegible/ https://www.myfonts.com/tags/illegible etc... My favorite font is "Faux Hebrew". Sending formatted email or letters to my Jewish friends often results in confusion (followed by profanity): https://www.google.com/search?q=faux+hebrew+font&tbm=isch The ultimate in penmanship are the torah scribes. They transcribe the entire 304,805 word Torah with pen and ink by hand. It takes about 2 years. No corrections are allowed. One mistake and the scrolls are destroyed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Torah It's quite an art and takes many years of practice to achieve perfection. A new torah scroll will cost between $15,000 and $50,000 depending mostly on the quality and consistency of the script: https://www.amazon.com/Authentic-Kosher-Written-Scroll-Reconditioned/dp/B003AT9RKM One of my uncles was a draftsman in Israel back in the 1960's. He augmented his income transcribing torah scrolls. Not to disparage the Torah but until the 1440's all "books" were hand written :-) More fake news? Books were printed with hand made metal presses in the 1300's. 1440, was the first Guttenberg movable type press. |
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:26:39 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote: On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 11:28:22 PM UTC-8, wrote: The smaller Swiss Army knives lack a blade suitable for opening cardboard boxes, cutting thick cordage, stripping wire, and opening theft proof packaging. So, I gave up on multiplex knives and switched to something more practical: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Hand-Tools/Cutting/48-22-1530 Quite so, so telephone installation people used special hardened and sharpened scissors for cutting phone wire and on the back edge it has a slot for stripping the wire. Sigh. Telco "scissors" are called "snips". There's no "special hardening". Snips can be a little dull so that they don't cut through the wire insulation when scoring the outer jacket. Hardened cutting edges also have a habit of chipping. What you want is hardened and then tempered. Note that this model has a serrated edge allegedly to grip the wire when cutting: http://www.southwiretools.com/tools/tools/ESP-1 This video does a rather nice job of explaining the difference between snips and scissors, as well as demonstrating how the tool is used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMpS2Ctfmg8 https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-Scissors-Theater-Klein-Tools/dp/B000VL03NC/ Klein tools are very good. This style (as shown in the video) is allegedly better. However, the only thing the oversize handle does is give you a better grip when stripping wires: https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-S...dp/B0015SBIL6/ https://www.amazon.com/Internets-Best-Premium-Utility-Retractable/dp/B01M27QHE2/ Not good. That will nick the insulation when cutting through the jacket. If there's any braid, it will also damage the braid. It also takes quite a bit of skill and practice to partially cut through the jacket using a knife. I can do it because I've had a lifetime of practice, but I wouldn't recommend using a knife if you have better tools available. For example, I sometimes use these for stripping CAT5, coax cables, and some electrical wires: https://www.google.com/search?q=cat5+stripper&tbm=isch They work well, but require a different die for each size of cable and become dull if you allow the blade to touch the copper wire. For cutting carboard boxed and their wrapping the only tool to use was a razor knife. Methinks the official name is a "box knife": https://www.google.com/search?q=box+knife&tbm=isch The trick for me is one handed deployment, operation, and retraction. However, razor blade knives do not have a serrated blade edge, which is useful for sawing open fiberglass reinforced packing tape, cutting boxing rope, and dealing with multiple cardboard layers in one pass. That's why I prefer the Milwaukee knife. -- Jeff Liebermann PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:58:06 +0700, John B.
wrote: But of course, back in the day, the common people were not encouraged to read the bible which was intended for only the Clergy. Imagine, if one allowed the Hoi Polloi to read it think of all the different interpretations of "The Word" that might emerge. No need to imagine. The story of William Tyndale and his printed translation of the Latin bible into English in 1535 illustrates what did happen with the GUM (great unwashed masses) were able to read the bible without requiring a priestly interpretation or a knowledge of Latin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndale_Bible -- Jeff Liebermann PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 11:57:14 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:58:06 +0700, John B. wrote: But of course, back in the day, the common people were not encouraged to read the bible which was intended for only the Clergy. Imagine, if one allowed the Hoi Polloi to read it think of all the different interpretations of "The Word" that might emerge. No need to imagine. The story of William Tyndale and his printed translation of the Latin bible into English in 1535 illustrates what did happen with the GUM (great unwashed masses) were able to read the bible without requiring a priestly interpretation or a knowledge of Latin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndale_Bible Although, to be honest, even those who didn't read "The Bible" found themselves quite capable of finding "new paths". Do you wear Payot (possible spelling error here)? -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:29:58 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote: On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 4:37:08 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:24:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:19:35 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 1/11/2021 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Among architects, the use of custom fonts is quite common. The idea is that if someone pirates the architects work, the unique fonts would make the theft obvious in a court of law. In the distant past, we had three architects offices in the office building. All of them used custom fonts. I don't know if they still do that today. Right, I had my all-caps scrawl digitized as a TrueType font. Probably something like that. Sorry, but your scribbling has probably been copyrighted: https://www.1001fonts.com/illegible-fonts.html https://www.fontget.com/discover/illegible/ https://www.myfonts.com/tags/illegible etc... My favorite font is "Faux Hebrew". Sending formatted email or letters to my Jewish friends often results in confusion (followed by profanity): https://www.google.com/search?q=faux+hebrew+font&tbm=isch The ultimate in penmanship are the torah scribes. They transcribe the entire 304,805 word Torah with pen and ink by hand. It takes about 2 years. No corrections are allowed. One mistake and the scrolls are destroyed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Torah It's quite an art and takes many years of practice to achieve perfection. A new torah scroll will cost between $15,000 and $50,000 depending mostly on the quality and consistency of the script: https://www.amazon.com/Authentic-Kosher-Written-Scroll-Reconditioned/dp/B003AT9RKM One of my uncles was a draftsman in Israel back in the 1960's. He augmented his income transcribing torah scrolls. Not to disparage the Torah but until the 1440's all "books" were hand written :-) More fake news? Books were printed with hand made metal presses in the 1300's. 1440, was the first Guttenberg movable type press. Were they? Can you prove your statement that hand made metal presses were in use in the 1300'? or is it just another figment of your imagination? Old Joe Gutenberg's first identifiable work is the Gutenberg's 31-line Indulgence which is known to already exist on 22 October 1454. The so called Gutenberg Bible, which was completed and according to contemporary sources first sold in 1455. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:26:39 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 11:28:22 PM UTC-8, wrote: The smaller Swiss Army knives lack a blade suitable for opening cardboard boxes, cutting thick cordage, stripping wire, and opening theft proof packaging. So, I gave up on multiplex knives and switched to something more practical: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Hand-Tools/Cutting/48-22-1530 Quite so, so telephone installation people used special hardened and sharpened scissors for cutting phone wire and on the back edge it has a slot for stripping the wire. Sigh. Telco "scissors" are called "snips". There's no "special hardening". Snips can be a little dull so that they don't cut through the wire insulation when scoring the outer jacket. Hardened cutting edges also have a habit of chipping. What you want is hardened and then tempered. Note that this model has a serrated edge allegedly to grip the wire when cutting: http://www.southwiretools.com/tools/tools/ESP-1 This video does a rather nice job of explaining the difference between snips and scissors, as well as demonstrating how the tool is used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMpS2Ctfmg8 https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-Scissors-Theater-Klein-Tools/dp/B000VL03NC/ Klein tools are very good. This style (as shown in the video) is allegedly better. However, the only thing the oversize handle does is give you a better grip when stripping wires: https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-S...dp/B0015SBIL6/ https://www.amazon.com/Internets-Best-Premium-Utility-Retractable/dp/B01M27QHE2/ Not good. That will nick the insulation when cutting through the jacket. If there's any braid, it will also damage the braid. It also takes quite a bit of skill and practice to partially cut through the jacket using a knife. I can do it because I've had a lifetime of practice, but I wouldn't recommend using a knife if you have better tools available. For example, I sometimes use these for stripping CAT5, coax cables, and some electrical wires: https://www.google.com/search?q=cat5+stripper&tbm=isch They work well, but require a different die for each size of cable and become dull if you allow the blade to touch the copper wire. For cutting carboard boxed and their wrapping the only tool to use was a razor knife. Methinks the official name is a "box knife": https://www.google.com/search?q=box+knife&tbm=isch The trick for me is one handed deployment, operation, and retraction. However, razor blade knives do not have a serrated blade edge, which is useful for sawing open fiberglass reinforced packing tape, cutting boxing rope, and dealing with multiple cardboard layers in one pass. That's why I prefer the Milwaukee knife. Tell me Jeff, when did you work for the Telephone Company? Since I was partner in a telephone installation firm putting phones into San Francisco skyscapers for several years what leads you to believe that you can tell me what tools I used? Why you're so amazing you can tell the actually contradict the people who actually make them. Over the last 10 years I've bought and assembled probably 100 bikes of all sorts from FS29ers, to every steel bike imaginable to cyclocross bikes, touring bikes, and aluminum and carbon fiber road framesets. They ALL came in heavy cardboard boxes and using a razor knife not only did I unpack them without a problem but I cut every one of the boxes up into small pieces that would fit into my recyclable trash can. I have replaced ONE razor and the knife came loaded with several replacements. So precisely WHY would I need a knife that has a saw edge on it and a cutting edge that wouldn't even slice the boxes open let alone cut them into small pieces. |
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