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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:20:42 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: I was surprised by the number of times the Bible uses "****eth against a wall." https://www.biblegateway.com/quickse...ainst+the+wall Your final link doesn't seem to mention it. I guess everyone knows what it means. I didn't know, so I had to look it up. WHY DOES THE KING JAMES BIBLE SAY, "****ETH AGAINST THE WALL?" https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.org/2017/08/17/****eth-against-the-wall/ The original Hebrew phrase did not mean any and every male, but rather indicative of male children. It singles out little boys, signifying that they will die before reaching adulthood. The King James Bible text is specific - boys rather than adult men. This narrowing-down allows us to see that these individuals will not even be allowed to reproduce. Their dying as (childless) juveniles is much more devastating to a family than dying adults who have already reproduced. The youngest generations are vital to the perpetuation of the family. I suspect that the next translation of the bible will be into text message abbreviations and acronyms, which is the common language of todays youth: https://www.webopedia.com/reference/text-message-abbreviations/ -- Jeff Liebermann PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:24:25 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 1/14/2021 1:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: I don't believe that a new universal simulation is possible. We're more likely to continue the present simulation forever by repeating the same lessons and mistakes an infinite number of times. That does happen on rec.bicycles.tech ... Far too often. I'm a member of 2 local amateur radio clubs. As the old regime became older and faded into the background, the new and younger regime has taken over. However, rather than ask the old regime for advice or the reasons why some things were done, they prefer to blunder forward without the benefit of past experience. Of course, the older regime is expected to do damage control when something fails miserably, as it did in the past. History really does repeat itself. But is it real? It doesn't matter. If you can't tell the difference between arguing with a computer AI and arguing with a real person, it's about as real as things can get. Where the fun starts is in the surreal, where things are stranger than in reality. See the current situation in Washington DC and ask "are they for real"? -- Jeff Liebermann PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:15:19 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
https://images.wsj.net/im-282485?width=1260&size=1 The middle ground between dismal failure and perfection is called mediocrity. Perfection sells better than mediocrity. -- Jeff Liebermann PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 08:47:14 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 8:50:35 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 15:57:35 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:26:39 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 11:28:22 PM UTC-8, wrote: The smaller Swiss Army knives lack a blade suitable for opening cardboard boxes, cutting thick cordage, stripping wire, and opening theft proof packaging. So, I gave up on multiplex knives and switched to something more practical: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Hand-Tools/Cutting/48-22-1530 Quite so, so telephone installation people used special hardened and sharpened scissors for cutting phone wire and on the back edge it has a slot for stripping the wire. Sigh. Telco "scissors" are called "snips". There's no "special hardening". Snips can be a little dull so that they don't cut through the wire insulation when scoring the outer jacket. Hardened cutting edges also have a habit of chipping. What you want is hardened and then tempered. Note that this model has a serrated edge allegedly to grip the wire when cutting: http://www.southwiretools.com/tools/tools/ESP-1 This video does a rather nice job of explaining the difference between snips and scissors, as well as demonstrating how the tool is used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMpS2Ctfmg8 https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-Scissors-Theater-Klein-Tools/dp/B000VL03NC/ Klein tools are very good. This style (as shown in the video) is allegedly better. However, the only thing the oversize handle does is give you a better grip when stripping wires: https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-S...dp/B0015SBIL6/ https://www.amazon.com/Internets-Best-Premium-Utility-Retractable/dp/B01M27QHE2/ Not good. That will nick the insulation when cutting through the jacket. If there's any braid, it will also damage the braid. It also takes quite a bit of skill and practice to partially cut through the jacket using a knife. I can do it because I've had a lifetime of practice, but I wouldn't recommend using a knife if you have better tools available. For example, I sometimes use these for stripping CAT5, coax cables, and some electrical wires: https://www.google.com/search?q=cat5+stripper&tbm=isch They work well, but require a different die for each size of cable and become dull if you allow the blade to touch the copper wire. For cutting carboard boxed and their wrapping the only tool to use was a razor knife. Methinks the official name is a "box knife": https://www.google.com/search?q=box+knife&tbm=isch The trick for me is one handed deployment, operation, and retraction. However, razor blade knives do not have a serrated blade edge, which is useful for sawing open fiberglass reinforced packing tape, cutting boxing rope, and dealing with multiple cardboard layers in one pass.. That's why I prefer the Milwaukee knife. Tell me Jeff, when did you work for the Telephone Company? 1966 or 67. I went through the training for GTE in Santa Monica CA while attending Santa Monica City College. However, I had to quit before I was done because the draft board wanted me. So, I went full time at SMCC in order to get a 2-S deferment. In 1967, I worked for about 2 months for Pacific Bell in a CO battery room. However, that didn't involve terminating signal wires and should not be considered relevent wiring experience. Since I was partner in a telephone installation firm putting phones into San Francisco skyscapers for several years what leads you to believe that you can tell me what tools I used? You didn't mention which tools you used. I also wasn't aware that I need your permission to suggest that you might consider using my favorite tools. Your failure to use the common name of "snips" and your mistaken impression that razor knives are suitable for terminating wires, failed to provide me with any suggestion that you had training or experience. It's really amazing how much one can deduce from only 3 lines of text. Why you're so amazing you can tell the actually contradict the people who actually make them. Thank you. However, please note that I did not "contradict" anything you said. Were you really recommending that one should use a razor or utility knife for preparing network or station wire for termination? Over the last 10 years I've bought and assembled probably 100 bikes of all sorts from FS29ers, to every steel bike imaginable to cyclocross bikes, touring bikes, and aluminum and carbon fiber road framesets. They ALL came in heavy cardboard boxes and using a razor knife not only did I unpack them without a problem but I cut every one of the boxes up into small pieces that would fit into my recyclable trash can. I have replaced ONE razor and the knife came loaded with several replacements. So precisely WHY would I need a knife that has a saw edge on it and a cutting edge that wouldn't even slice the boxes open let alone cut them into small pieces. If you are sufficiently skilled to cut through heavy cardboard without hitting whatever was packed inside, then by all means, continue using your 10 year old razor knife blade. Heavy cardboard might make it easier as it's likely that the bicycle manufacturer also put some protective distance between the bicycle parts and the box. If you were opening smaller and thinner cardboard boxes, such as USPS priority mail boxes, you would probably need to be more careful. Oddly, I've never had the experience of cutting up cardboard boxes so that they fit in the tiny residential recycling bins. My office building had a shared dumpster for recycled cardboard. I would cut through the tape, fold the box flat, sometimes cut the flat box in half, and drop it in the dumpster. At home, I recycle all my cardboard at the nearby transfer station, which also has a dumpster. The serrated edge on my knife is most used for rope, cordage, and webbing used to secure some larger boxes. I don't use it often, but things that need to sawed, a serrated edge makes cutting easier. Incidentally, I try to save as many cardboard boxes as possible. That became important when I closed my formerly palatial office and moved everything to my house. I eventually had to recycle most of the salvaged boxes, but kept enough to help (slowly) re-organize the mess: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/cardboard-boxes.jpg There's another pile of about equal size in the shop. Also, for odd size boxes, I use a Uline H-101 carton resizer: https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-101/Carton-Tool/Carton-Sizer Jess, I would like to ask you when and where I EVER questioned you on your expertise in your job. You haven't asked me because I don't have a job. I work for myself. All I have asked from you is the same respect. I see. You want me to ignore the all insults you've prepended and appended to your postings. You want me to ignore your mistakes and bad information when I offer corrections. You want me to ignore your lack of substantiation and proof of your erroneous claims. In exchange for not questioning your claims and misinformation, you want me to provide you some measure of respect which I interpret to mean accepting all this without question or comment. I don't think so. If you want respect, you have to earn it. You gain respect for doing something that your audience considers exceptional. You gain respect by being correct and accurate. You gain respect by acting in a professional manner and calling people childish names. You gain respect by actually writing something that is worth reading. You gain respect by proving your contentions in a believable manner. You gain some respect by winning awards, prizes, diplomas, certificates and endorsements. The search for respect is a sure sign of its absence. I judge people by their willingness and ability to learn new things. Have you ever thanked someone for explaing something that you misunderstood or didn't know? Have you ever taken the time to work through a problem and post the calculations? Have you ever attempted to do some reading and then comment on something you admittedly didn't know much about? Have you ever gracefully accepted suggestions? Methinks not. If you don't understand these questions, think about what it takes for the people you consider to be authoritative, to have achieved that level of respect. You said that they were not called snips rather than scissors even after I supplied a picture of the tool. Where did I say that? My comments, which are still attached to this message, do not show that. Incidentally, scissors are generally used for cutting thin material. Snips (and shears) are generally used for cutting thicker material, such as cable jackets. On a better note. I have received a call from a man I used to work with and he needs someone that knows mainframe database programming. This isn't something I do so if you know anything that meets these qualifications please have him contact me and I will direct him to Colin. It would be helpful to know which database. SQL, DB2, IMS, etc? Sorry, but I don't know anyone in the mainframe database programming business. I do PC's and hardware. I tend to avoid the programming aspects of the business mostly because I'm a terrible programmer. Jeff, please don't complain about me insulting you when you either started it or attempted tp take the side of people that were doing so. You should be able to recognize when you accuse me of lying about minor details of my resume saying I have no proof of them that I am not going to take such things lightly. Someone your age should know that direct verification is difficult to get when so many managers have died over the years. |
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On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 08:47:14 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 8:50:35 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 15:57:35 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:26:39 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich wrote: On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 11:28:22 PM UTC-8, wrote: The smaller Swiss Army knives lack a blade suitable for opening cardboard boxes, cutting thick cordage, stripping wire, and opening theft proof packaging. So, I gave up on multiplex knives and switched to something more practical: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Hand-Tools/Cutting/48-22-1530 Quite so, so telephone installation people used special hardened and sharpened scissors for cutting phone wire and on the back edge it has a slot for stripping the wire. Sigh. Telco "scissors" are called "snips". There's no "special hardening". Snips can be a little dull so that they don't cut through the wire insulation when scoring the outer jacket. Hardened cutting edges also have a habit of chipping. What you want is hardened and then tempered. Note that this model has a serrated edge allegedly to grip the wire when cutting: http://www.southwiretools.com/tools/tools/ESP-1 This video does a rather nice job of explaining the difference between snips and scissors, as well as demonstrating how the tool is used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMpS2Ctfmg8 https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-Scissors-Theater-Klein-Tools/dp/B000VL03NC/ Klein tools are very good. This style (as shown in the video) is allegedly better. However, the only thing the oversize handle does is give you a better grip when stripping wires: https://www.amazon.com/Electrician-S...dp/B0015SBIL6/ https://www.amazon.com/Internets-Best-Premium-Utility-Retractable/dp/B01M27QHE2/ Not good. That will nick the insulation when cutting through the jacket. If there's any braid, it will also damage the braid. It also takes quite a bit of skill and practice to partially cut through the jacket using a knife. I can do it because I've had a lifetime of practice, but I wouldn't recommend using a knife if you have better tools available. For example, I sometimes use these for stripping CAT5, coax cables, and some electrical wires: https://www.google.com/search?q=cat5+stripper&tbm=isch They work well, but require a different die for each size of cable and become dull if you allow the blade to touch the copper wire. For cutting carboard boxed and their wrapping the only tool to use was a razor knife. Methinks the official name is a "box knife": https://www.google.com/search?q=box+knife&tbm=isch The trick for me is one handed deployment, operation, and retraction. However, razor blade knives do not have a serrated blade edge, which is useful for sawing open fiberglass reinforced packing tape, cutting boxing rope, and dealing with multiple cardboard layers in one pass.. That's why I prefer the Milwaukee knife. Tell me Jeff, when did you work for the Telephone Company? 1966 or 67. I went through the training for GTE in Santa Monica CA while attending Santa Monica City College. However, I had to quit before I was done because the draft board wanted me. So, I went full time at SMCC in order to get a 2-S deferment. In 1967, I worked for about 2 months for Pacific Bell in a CO battery room. However, that didn't involve terminating signal wires and should not be considered relevent wiring experience. Since I was partner in a telephone installation firm putting phones into San Francisco skyscapers for several years what leads you to believe that you can tell me what tools I used? You didn't mention which tools you used. I also wasn't aware that I need your permission to suggest that you might consider using my favorite tools. Your failure to use the common name of "snips" and your mistaken impression that razor knives are suitable for terminating wires, failed to provide me with any suggestion that you had training or experience. It's really amazing how much one can deduce from only 3 lines of text. Why you're so amazing you can tell the actually contradict the people who actually make them. Thank you. However, please note that I did not "contradict" anything you said. Were you really recommending that one should use a razor or utility knife for preparing network or station wire for termination? Over the last 10 years I've bought and assembled probably 100 bikes of all sorts from FS29ers, to every steel bike imaginable to cyclocross bikes, touring bikes, and aluminum and carbon fiber road framesets. They ALL came in heavy cardboard boxes and using a razor knife not only did I unpack them without a problem but I cut every one of the boxes up into small pieces that would fit into my recyclable trash can. I have replaced ONE razor and the knife came loaded with several replacements. So precisely WHY would I need a knife that has a saw edge on it and a cutting edge that wouldn't even slice the boxes open let alone cut them into small pieces. If you are sufficiently skilled to cut through heavy cardboard without hitting whatever was packed inside, then by all means, continue using your 10 year old razor knife blade. Heavy cardboard might make it easier as it's likely that the bicycle manufacturer also put some protective distance between the bicycle parts and the box. If you were opening smaller and thinner cardboard boxes, such as USPS priority mail boxes, you would probably need to be more careful. Oddly, I've never had the experience of cutting up cardboard boxes so that they fit in the tiny residential recycling bins. My office building had a shared dumpster for recycled cardboard. I would cut through the tape, fold the box flat, sometimes cut the flat box in half, and drop it in the dumpster. At home, I recycle all my cardboard at the nearby transfer station, which also has a dumpster. The serrated edge on my knife is most used for rope, cordage, and webbing used to secure some larger boxes. I don't use it often, but things that need to sawed, a serrated edge makes cutting easier. Incidentally, I try to save as many cardboard boxes as possible. That became important when I closed my formerly palatial office and moved everything to my house. I eventually had to recycle most of the salvaged boxes, but kept enough to help (slowly) re-organize the mess: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/cardboard-boxes.jpg There's another pile of about equal size in the shop. Also, for odd size boxes, I use a Uline H-101 carton resizer: https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-101/Carton-Tool/Carton-Sizer Jess, I would like to ask you when and where I EVER questioned you on your expertise in your job. You haven't asked me because I don't have a job. I work for myself. All I have asked from you is the same respect. I see. You want me to ignore the all insults you've prepended and appended to your postings. You want me to ignore your mistakes and bad information when I offer corrections. You want me to ignore your lack of substantiation and proof of your erroneous claims. In exchange for not questioning your claims and misinformation, you want me to provide you some measure of respect which I interpret to mean accepting all this without question or comment. I don't think so. If you want respect, you have to earn it. You gain respect for doing something that your audience considers exceptional. You gain respect by being correct and accurate. You gain respect by acting in a professional manner and calling people childish names. You gain respect by actually writing something that is worth reading. You gain respect by proving your contentions in a believable manner. You gain some respect by winning awards, prizes, diplomas, certificates and endorsements. The search for respect is a sure sign of its absence. I judge people by their willingness and ability to learn new things. Have you ever thanked someone for explaing something that you misunderstood or didn't know? Have you ever taken the time to work through a problem and post the calculations? Have you ever attempted to do some reading and then comment on something you admittedly didn't know much about? Have you ever gracefully accepted suggestions? Methinks not. If you don't understand these questions, think about what it takes for the people you consider to be authoritative, to have achieved that level of respect. You said that they were not called snips rather than scissors even after I supplied a picture of the tool. Where did I say that? My comments, which are still attached to this message, do not show that. Incidentally, scissors are generally used for cutting thin material. Snips (and shears) are generally used for cutting thicker material, such as cable jackets. On a better note. I have received a call from a man I used to work with and he needs someone that knows mainframe database programming. This isn't something I do so if you know anything that meets these qualifications please have him contact me and I will direct him to Colin. It would be helpful to know which database. SQL, DB2, IMS, etc? Sorry, but I don't know anyone in the mainframe database programming business. I do PC's and hardware. I tend to avoid the programming aspects of the business mostly because I'm a terrible programmer. By the way, did you miss the part and I quote, "Sigh. Telco "scissors" are called "snips". There's no "special hardening". I hope that you're aware that tempering IS special hardening and the scissors I have are the same one's I bought way back in the 1990's. I've also used these scissors to electrical wires for outlets and doorbell wire and these are still as sharp as when I bought them. Sigh about that. |
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On 1/14/2021 6:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I suspect that the next translation of the bible will be into text message abbreviations and acronyms, which is the common language of todays youth: https://www.webopedia.com/reference/text-message-abbreviations/ Long ago I read a science fiction novel (probably by Heinlein) that featured some sort of secret society. As I recall, to be inducted one needed a high degree of intelligence; but once inducted, trainees learned a new language, one that was heavily abbreviated. The claim was that we think by internal use of language, so learning a language whose information was very dense (in terms of ideas per syllable) allowed much faster processing of data - i.e. faster and more efficient thinking. So maybe these "kids these days" will carry us forward into a brave new world where all our problems will be quickly solved! (LOL!) -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 3:58:27 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/14/2021 6:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: I suspect that the next translation of the bible will be into text message abbreviations and acronyms, which is the common language of todays youth: https://www.webopedia.com/reference/text-message-abbreviations/ Long ago I read a science fiction novel (probably by Heinlein) that featured some sort of secret society. As I recall, to be inducted one needed a high degree of intelligence; but once inducted, trainees learned a new language, one that was heavily abbreviated. The claim was that we think by internal use of language, so learning a language whose information was very dense (in terms of ideas per syllable) allowed much faster processing of data - i.e. faster and more efficient thinking. So maybe these "kids these days" will carry us forward into a brave new world where all our problems will be quickly solved! (LOL!) When young I admired Heinlein's books but over time imagination was pretty much all they have turned out to be. Making a language expressed in much larger and more complex manner doesn't seem to have slowed the Japanese or Chinese in the least. Though they have to use many forms of trying to supplant what we do without thought in English with "inflection" such as read and read. (past tense.) |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:01:56 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 11:49:04 +0700, John B. wrote: Well, certainly there are various "versions" of the Bible and some of the instructions are a bit different. "Thou shall not kill" in some versions and "Thou shall not commit murder" in others for instance New versions appear constantly. The latest is the MEV (Modern English Version) which takes the KJV bible and translates the 17th century idioms and terminology, into modern English. It was finished in 2013. https://modernenglishversion.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_English_Version It's the idioms that drive readers nuts. One famous example is from WWII, when a misunderstanding of the phrase "table the motion" brought an important military meeting to a grinding halt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_(parliamentary_procedure) That's just one example, and the bible is crammed full of idioms. "Thou shalt no kill" is not sufficient in a court of law. Question arise as to exceptions and killing what? Is it acceptable to slaughter animals for food? Some attempts have been made to clarify such details, usually resulting in a bible that reads like a legal document or history book: https://gnt.bible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_News_Bible Incidentally, here's a vocabulary list extracted from the KJV bible: https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.tbsbibles.org/resource/collection/D1B0BDBE-CD9E-4D12-BBDD-138677F98835/Bible-Word-List-and-Reading-Plan.pdf Most of the words and phrases on the list are in dire need of translation to modern terms. Another thing, regarding the Bible is that of translation. As I have lived in a number of non-English speaking countries I have been made aware that literal translations are frequently meaningless, if even possible, and even worse people often use nicknames and phrases that when literally translated are far different in meaning then what is meant by those using them. For example, it is very common, particularly in Bangkok, to hear a man reference "fan phom" which literally translated is "friend me" but actually means "my wife", a somewhat different meaning than the translation. Given that the Jewish holy books weren't originally written in English, or Latin, but were likely translated first into Greek, and then into Latin and then into English the chances of misinterpreting a word or phrase, or even a loyal advocate of one group or another simply inserting a totally new word into his copy seems more than likely. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:15:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 11:08:36 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/12/2021 11:50 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: Incidentally, I try to save as many cardboard boxes as possible. That became important when I closed my formerly palatial office and moved everything to my house. I eventually had to recycle most of the salvaged boxes, but kept enough to help (slowly) re-organize the mess: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/cardboard-boxes.jpg I'm impressed by the thorough photographic documentation of your life. Thanks. I find that it's easier to describe things with photos than with voluminous text. Is this to allow reconstruction when this universal simulation ends and another begins? Yes. Fairly soon, we'll all be replaced by avatars mimicking our personal believes, prejudices, biases, and mannerisms using an AI (artificial intelligence) driven simulation. You probably won't be able to tell if you're discussing bicycles with a human or an AI. The photos are a guide for anyone wanted to reconstruct me after my inevitable and well deserved demise. But isn't that the so called Turing test. If a machine is intelligent, if it can fool people into thinking it is human. I don't believe that a new universal simulation is possible. We're more likely to continue the present simulation forever by repeating the same lessons and mistakes an infinite number of times. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:20:42 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 1/14/2021 1:01 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 11:49:04 +0700, John B. wrote: Well, certainly there are various "versions" of the Bible and some of the instructions are a bit different. "Thou shall not kill" in some versions and "Thou shall not commit murder" in others for instance New versions appear constantly. The latest is the MEV (Modern English Version) which takes the KJV bible and translates the 17th century idioms and terminology, into modern English. It was finished in 2013. https://modernenglishversion.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_English_Version It's the idioms that drive readers nuts. One famous example is from WWII, when a misunderstanding of the phrase "table the motion" brought an important military meeting to a grinding halt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_(parliamentary_procedure) That's just one example, and the bible is crammed full of idioms. "Thou shalt no kill" is not sufficient in a court of law. Question arise as to exceptions and killing what? Is it acceptable to slaughter animals for food? Some attempts have been made to clarify such details, usually resulting in a bible that reads like a legal document or history book: https://gnt.bible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_News_Bible Incidentally, here's a vocabulary list extracted from the KJV bible: https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.tbsbibles.org/resource/collection/D1B0BDBE-CD9E-4D12-BBDD-138677F98835/Bible-Word-List-and-Reading-Plan.pdf Most of the words and phrases on the list are in dire need of translation to modern terms. I was surprised by the number of times the Bible uses "****eth against a wall." https://www.biblegateway.com/quickse...ainst+the+wall Your final link doesn't seem to mention it. I guess everyone knows what it means. Come now Professor "****eth - Archaic third-person singular simple present indicative form of ****." -- Cheers, John B. |
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