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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On Monday, 10 August 2020 23:56:00 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 10/08/2020 19:50, Simon Mason wrote: On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 7:44:49 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote: The proposed amendment to the Highway Code will say "[cyclists should] ride in single file when drivers wish to overtake and it is safe to let them do so". Which essentially confirms that old rule. If you read the story, the cyclists moved into single file to let the van driver past. Why they then decided to pass by at high speed very close while leaning on their horn, only they will know. Totally unnecessary behaviour. You are deliberately avoiding the point about not obstructing (which happened when the cyclists were riding in parallel rather than in series, totally unnecessarily). Which type of vehicle causes most congestion, pedal cycles or motor vehicles? If every car driver in London rode a pedal cycle would there be more or less congestion? |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 1:43:51 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Which type of vehicle causes most congestion, pedal cycles or motor vehicles? If every car driver in London rode a pedal cycle would there be more or less congestion? Obviously. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfIbYNmX...jpg&name=small |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On 11/08/2020 01:43, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 10 August 2020 23:56:00 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 10/08/2020 19:50, Simon Mason wrote: On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 7:44:49 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote: The proposed amendment to the Highway Code will say "[cyclists should] ride in single file when drivers wish to overtake and it is safe to let them do so". Which essentially confirms that old rule. If you read the story, the cyclists moved into single file to let the van driver past. Why they then decided to pass by at high speed very close while leaning on their horn, only they will know. Totally unnecessary behaviour. You are deliberately avoiding the point about not obstructing (which happened when the cyclists were riding in parallel rather than in series, totally unnecessarily). Which type of vehicle causes most congestion, pedal cycles or motor vehicles? What is the relevance of your question? If every car driver in London rode a pedal cycle would there be more or less congestion? Ditto? No-one expects the absence of congestion all the time. It is deliberate, avoidable obstruction which is unacceptable. |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On 01:43 11 Aug 2020, Mike Collins said:
On Monday, 10 August 2020 23:56:00 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 10/08/2020 19:50, Simon Mason wrote: On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 7:44:49 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote: The proposed amendment to the Highway Code will say "[cyclists should] ride in single file when drivers wish to overtake and it is safe to let them do so". Which essentially confirms that old rule. If you read the story, the cyclists moved into single file to let the van driver past. Why they then decided to pass by at high speed very close while leaning on their horn, only they will know. Totally unnecessary behaviour. You are deliberately avoiding the point about not obstructing (which happened when the cyclists were riding in parallel rather than in series, totally unnecessarily). Which type of vehicle causes most congestion, pedal cycles or motor vehicles? If every car driver in London rode a pedal cycle would there be more or less congestion? If everyone rode a bicycle, who would pay for the roads the bicycles ride on? |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 11:35:00 AM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
If everyone rode a bicycle, who would pay for the roads the bicycles ride on? Council tax payers, as they do now? |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On 19:44 10 Aug 2020, Pamela said:
On 18:45 10 Aug 2020, JNugent said: On 10/08/2020 17:21, Simon Mason wrote: What an ignorant tosser this driver is. QUOTE: One of the most common complaints against cyclists that you will read on social media or in the comments section of local newspapers is that they are riding two abreast, even though that is perfectly legal - but it does seem to have become embedded among a certain section of the motoring public that it's not allowed, and that riders doing so are breaking the rules. What about this rule? Highway Code Rule 168 Being overtaken ... Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. The proposed amendment to the Highway Code will say "[cyclists should] ride in single file when drivers wish to overtake and it is safe to let them do so". Which essentially confirms that old rule. http://bit.ly/3ktyGJ1 -or- http://b.link/3cm4w The wording is different but provides essentially the same instruction. |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On 11:37 11 Aug 2020, Simon Mason said:
On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 11:35:00 AM UTC+1, Pamela wrote: If everyone rode a bicycle, who would pay for the roads the bicycles ride on? Council tax payers, as they do now? Local council receive most of their funding from central government. It is calculated that 7% of all national tax income is paid by motorists. |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On 17:21 10 Aug 2020, Simon Mason said:
What an ignorant tosser this driver is. QUOTE: One of the most common complaints against cyclists that you will read on social media or in the comments section of local newspapers is that they are riding two abreast, even though that is perfectly legal - but it does seem to have become embedded among a certain section of the motoring public that it's not allowed, and that riders doing so are breaking the rules. Which leads us up to this punishment pass by a van driver on a pair of cyclists riding side by side on the A4 between Chippenham and Bath - what's more, one made just as the riders were moving into single file to allow for a safe overtake. The video was shot by road.cc reader Jody, who said: "We were chatting while keeping a keen eye out for cars behind, ready to drop into single line at the first thought of hindrance to anyone really. "That wasn’t enough for one Traffic van diver however, who chose to hold their high speed pass with a horn blast throughout, as they skimmed their 2-tonne-at-least vehicle past my shoulder, in - I guess - punishment, for the perceived infraction. "On the plus side, the view over the hill was beautiful. Angry driver was probably chewing their steering wheel at that point, so may have missed it." https://road.cc/content/news/near-mi...st-punishment- pass-276327 I was watching the video and waiting to see this "punishment pass" when it ended. All I saw was a van driver overtake some cyclists and make a courtesy toot to warn them of his presence. Cyclist are prone to wobbling and also not knowing what is behind them. In continental countries such toots to announce a vehicles's presence is very common. |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 11:42:06 AM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 11:37 11 Aug 2020, Simon Mason said: On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 11:35:00 AM UTC+1, Pamela wrote: If everyone rode a bicycle, who would pay for the roads the bicycles ride on? Council tax payers, as they do now? Local council receive most of their funding from central government. It is calculated that 7% of all national tax income is paid by motorists. Whereas drivers DAMAGE 100% of road infrastucture and people and houses and bridges and the air. They should pay MUCH more than the pittance they already do. |
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Near Miss of the Day 453: Punishment pass on two-abreast cyclists
On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 11:44:57 AM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 17:21 10 Aug 2020, Simon Mason said: What an ignorant tosser this driver is. QUOTE: One of the most common complaints against cyclists that you will read on social media or in the comments section of local newspapers is that they are riding two abreast, even though that is perfectly legal - but it does seem to have become embedded among a certain section of the motoring public that it's not allowed, and that riders doing so are breaking the rules. Which leads us up to this punishment pass by a van driver on a pair of cyclists riding side by side on the A4 between Chippenham and Bath - what's more, one made just as the riders were moving into single file to allow for a safe overtake. The video was shot by road.cc reader Jody, who said: "We were chatting while keeping a keen eye out for cars behind, ready to drop into single line at the first thought of hindrance to anyone really. "That wasn’t enough for one Traffic van diver however, who chose to hold their high speed pass with a horn blast throughout, as they skimmed their 2-tonne-at-least vehicle past my shoulder, in - I guess - punishment, for the perceived infraction. "On the plus side, the view over the hill was beautiful. Angry driver was probably chewing their steering wheel at that point, so may have missed it." https://road.cc/content/news/near-mi...st-punishment- pass-276327 I was watching the video and waiting to see this "punishment pass" when it ended. All I saw was a van driver overtake some cyclists and make a courtesy toot QUOTE: A horn should not be used to indicate your annoyance. ENDS https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/answ...-use-your-horn It was a long blast, not a "toot". Anyway, what the point of using it when he had gone past the cyclists? |
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