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Do helmets go bad over time?
Scrumpy Joe wrote:
jtaylor wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:35:39 -0700, RS wrote: So I walked into a LBS today and while making a minor purchase the sales guy looks at my helmet and says that it looks more than 5 years old and the foam goes bad, it just crumbles and I should buy a new helmet. Is this true or is the LBS owner have another boat payment coming due? Rick Dear Rick, Ignoring whether it does any good or not, Bell recommends that you buy a new Bell helmet every 3 years: 'Course they do. They're the ones that saw a way to make money from foam hats in the first place. They are not interested in saving lives, just in making money. If they thought they could get away with recommending you buy a new one for every ride, they'd do so. If they thought they could get a law passed that forced everyone riding a bicycle to wear one, they'd do so. I would dispute that. My hard-hat for site work has a 'not to be used after date' stamped into it. I would have no reason to suspect that my bike helmet plastic would not be subject to the same UV degradation over time as my hard-hat is. Besides the pads in mine have always got quite grotty after about three years so its new helmet time Stan Cox |
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Stan Cox wrote:
Scrumpy Joe wrote: jtaylor wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:35:39 -0700, RS wrote: So I walked into a LBS today and while making a minor purchase the sales guy looks at my helmet and says that it looks more than 5 years old and the foam goes bad, it just crumbles and I should buy a new helmet. Is this true or is the LBS owner have another boat payment coming due? Rick Dear Rick, Ignoring whether it does any good or not, Bell recommends that you buy a new Bell helmet every 3 years: 'Course they do. They're the ones that saw a way to make money from foam hats in the first place. They are not interested in saving lives, just in making money. If they thought they could get away with recommending you buy a new one for every ride, they'd do so. If they thought they could get a law passed that forced everyone riding a bicycle to wear one, they'd do so. I would dispute that. My hard-hat for site work has a 'not to be used after date' stamped into it. I would have no reason to suspect that my bike helmet plastic would not be subject to the same UV degradation over time as my hard-hat is. Besides the pads in mine have always got quite grotty after about three years so its new helmet time Stan Cox Shells are affected by UV - although shells on modern helmets aren't actually adding much to their crash-worthiness. The padding and foam are both affected by sweat. Therefore, it's not so much the age of the helmet as how much it's been used. 3-5 years is gonna be about right for most users. druidh |
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Scrumpy Joe wrote: I would dispute that. My hard-hat for site work has a 'not to be used after date' stamped into it. I would have no reason to suspect that my bike helmet plastic would not be subject to the same UV degradation over time as my hard-hat is. But one would assume that a work helmet expiration date must assume that the helmet may be in use e.g. 10 hours a day 6 days a week....possibly in sunnier climates ;-) I think cycle helmets get a lot less exposure. |
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Scrumpy Joe typed
True enough, I queried the stamp on initial training and was told, rightly or wrongly, that it was regardless of exposure to UV and that simply storing it in a dark locker for the same period would still mean that it would have to be replaced if the date had expired. I have learned over the years never to apply the logic and judgement of an engineer to something as fickle and seemingly random as a risk assessment. Who am I to question my H&S masters ;-) I'm no expert, but it strikes me that plasticisers and other chemicals slowly leach/evaporate over the years, causing degradation. Some of my household plastics are not the same now as they were at the time of purchase. They just get replaced when I judge they've 'had it'. They aren't safety-critical (or as pricy as a lid). They get replaced without any H&S input. You H&S masters may have a point though. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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news I've had my helmet for just over 45 years and it is stronger than it was when it was 10 years old. It was probably at it's peak at 20 years old, but I haven't noticed a significant degradation since then. -- Stuart "end user" v. A command regrettably not implemented in most systems. |
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Tunku wrote on 18/06/2006 18:07 +0100:
"jtaylor" wrote in news I've had my helmet for just over 45 years and it is stronger than it was when it was 10 years old. It was probably at it's peak at 20 years old, but I haven't noticed a significant degradation since then. I would imagine the leather is getting a bit old by now. -- Tony "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory." - Leonardo da Vinci |
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Tony Raven wrote in
: Tunku wrote on 18/06/2006 18:07 +0100: "jtaylor" wrote in news I've had my helmet for just over 45 years and it is stronger than it was when it was 10 years old. It was probably at it's peak at 20 years old, but I haven't noticed a significant degradation since then. I would imagine the leather is getting a bit old by now. Yes, but massaging it with oils keeps it young. -- Tunku Stuart "end user" v. A command regrettably not implemented in most systems. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:35:39 -0700, RS wrote: So I walked into a LBS today and while making a minor purchase the sales guy looks at my helmet and says that it looks more than 5 years old and the foam goes bad, it just crumbles and I should buy a new helmet. Is this true or is the LBS owner have another boat payment coming due? Rick Dear Rick, Ignoring whether it does any good or not, Bell recommends that you buy a new Bell helmet every 3 years: 'Course they do. They're the ones that saw a way to make money from foam hats in the first place. They are not interested in saving lives, just in making money. If they thought they could get away with recommending you buy a new one for every ride, they'd do so. If they thought they could get a law passed that forced everyone riding a bicycle to wear one, they'd do so. |
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