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Drive chain 'click' question
Hi - I'm sure you get hundreds of these requests, but I'd be extremely
grateful for any help! My bike has developed a intermittent click - by intermittent, I mean it will happen for a few minute, then disappear for a period of time; this could be a few minutes, could be an hour. It's a definite, short 'click', not a grind or anything like that. I seem to notice it more going uphill. It happens at the same stage of the pedal cycle (with the left crank at 10 o'clock). It doesn't happen if I peddle with my right foot only (i.e. left foot unclipped), but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left foot only. It happens on both sides of the SPD. I can't reproduce it pedalling backwards, or with the bike on the stand. I've tried tightening / loosening the SPDs with no effect. I haven't noticed it if I ride with normal shoes, but then again I didn't ride it for long to test it. The bike is a Raleigh steel frame road bike, Sora throughout, Ultegra hubs handbuild with Mavic CXP22s. The peddles are Wellgo MTB SPDs, and I ride them with a relatively cheep pair of Luck road shoes and Shimano cleats. The gears are set up pretty much perfectly, and as far as I'm aware (the bike is second hand from a careful owner), it's never been crashed. My intuition says it's something to do with the left SPD pedal / cleat, but I've heard something about a 'mavic tick'? Any suggestions of things I can try before taking it into the shop would be very much appreciated. Cheers, David |
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Dave Hallsworth wrote:
Hi - I'm sure you get hundreds of these requests, but I'd be extremely grateful for any help! My bike has developed a intermittent click - by intermittent, I mean it will happen for a few minute, then disappear for a period of time; this could be a few minutes, could be an hour. It's a definite, short 'click', not a grind or anything like that. I seem to notice it more going uphill. It happens at the same stage of the pedal cycle (with the left crank at 10 o'clock). It doesn't happen if I peddle with my right foot only (i.e. left foot unclipped), but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left foot only. It happens on both sides of the SPD. I can't reproduce it pedalling backwards, or with the bike on the stand. I've tried tightening / loosening the SPDs with no effect. I haven't noticed it if I ride with normal shoes, but then again I didn't ride it for long to test it. The bike is a Raleigh steel frame road bike, Sora throughout, Ultegra hubs handbuild with Mavic CXP22s. The peddles are Wellgo MTB SPDs, and I ride them with a relatively cheep pair of Luck road shoes and Shimano cleats. The gears are set up pretty much perfectly, and as far as I'm aware (the bike is second hand from a careful owner), it's never been crashed. My intuition says it's something to do with the left SPD pedal / cleat, but I've heard something about a 'mavic tick'? Any suggestions of things I can try before taking it into the shop would be very much appreciated. Wear ear plugs. ;-) Seriously, I *was* going to guess your FD cable tip was hitting your right foot, pedal or crank arm, but then you mentioned... hey wait, that could still be it! Is the cabe end moving to a position allowing this when FD shifts to small ring? Bill "if it were me, I'd guess it's my KNEE clicking" S. |
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"Dave Hallsworth" wrote in message
... Hi - I'm sure you get hundreds of these requests, but I'd be extremely grateful for any help! My bike has developed a intermittent click - by intermittent, I mean it will happen for a few minute, then disappear for a period of time; this could be a few minutes, could be an hour. It's a definite, short 'click', not a grind or anything like that. I seem to notice it more going uphill. It happens at the same stage of the pedal cycle (with the left crank at 10 o'clock). It doesn't happen if I peddle with my right foot only (i.e. left foot unclipped), but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left foot only. It happens on both sides of the SPD. I can't reproduce it pedalling backwards, or with the bike on the stand. I've tried tightening / loosening the SPDs with no effect. I haven't noticed it if I ride with normal shoes, but then again I didn't ride it for long to test it. The bike is a Raleigh steel frame road bike, Sora throughout, Ultegra hubs handbuild with Mavic CXP22s. The peddles are Wellgo MTB SPDs, and I ride them with a relatively cheep pair of Luck road shoes and Shimano cleats. The gears are set up pretty much perfectly, and as far as I'm aware (the bike is second hand from a careful owner), it's never been crashed. I had the same problem with a mountain bike I had, but I only noticed the problem while riding it on roads. I thought for the longest time it was the pedals but it turned out to be the intersection of the seat and seatpost. I have no idea if this is common or not, but my main point is if you can't find the problem in your pedals you should check the rest of the frame because sound travels so well through it. -- Scott Ehardt http://www.scehardt.com |
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"Dave Hallsworth" wrote in
: Hi - I'm sure you get hundreds of these requests, but I'd be extremely grateful for any help! My bike has developed a intermittent click - by intermittent, I mean it will happen for a few minute, then disappear for a period of time; this could be a few minutes, could be an hour. It's a definite, short 'click', not a grind or anything like that. I seem to notice it more going uphill. It happens at the same stage of the pedal cycle (with the left crank at 10 o'clock). It doesn't happen if I peddle with my right foot only (i.e. left foot unclipped), but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left foot only. It happens on both sides of the SPD. I can't reproduce it pedalling backwards, or with the bike on the stand. I've tried tightening / loosening the SPDs with no effect. I haven't noticed it if I ride with normal shoes, but then again I didn't ride it for long to test it. The bike is a Raleigh steel frame road bike, Sora throughout, Ultegra hubs handbuild with Mavic CXP22s. The peddles are Wellgo MTB SPDs, and I ride them with a relatively cheep pair of Luck road shoes and Shimano cleats. The gears are set up pretty much perfectly, and as far as I'm aware (the bike is second hand from a careful owner), it's never been crashed. My intuition says it's something to do with the left SPD pedal / cleat, but I've heard something about a 'mavic tick'? Any suggestions of things I can try before taking it into the shop would be very much appreciated. Cheers, David I also had an intermittant click. I solved the problem by tightening the lock ring. You need a special lock ring wrench to do this, but your LBS will probably lend you theirs. |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:13:56 GMT, "Dave Hallsworth"
wrote: Any suggestions of things I can try before taking it into the shop would be very much appreciated. Cheers, David Pull the bottom bracket and grease all surfaces and reassemble. Make sure crank arm is tight. Grease the seat post. Tighten the seat clamp. Check pedal bearings for play. Check your clothing for any loose change or keys in a pocket. When I had an SPD cleat/pedal problem, I could *feel* it, not hear it. |
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"Dave Hallsworth" wrote:
My bike has developed a intermittent click - by intermittent, I mean it will happen for a few minute, then disappear for a period of time; this could be a few minutes, could be an hour. It's a definite, short 'click', not a grind or anything like that. I seem to notice it more going uphill. It happens at the same stage of the pedal cycle (with the left crank at 10 o'clock). It doesn't happen if I peddle with my right foot only (i.e. left foot unclipped), but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left foot only. It happens on both sides of the SPD. I can't reproduce it pedalling backwards, or with the bike on the stand. I've tried tightening / loosening the SPDs with no effect. I haven't noticed it if I ride with normal shoes, but then again I didn't ride it for long to test it. The bike is a Raleigh steel frame road bike, Sora throughout, Ultegra hubs handbuild with Mavic CXP22s. The peddles are Wellgo MTB SPDs, and I ride them with a relatively cheep pair of Luck road shoes and Shimano cleats. My intuition says it's something to do with the left SPD pedal / cleat, but I've heard something about a 'mavic tick'? Mavic tick has to do with Mavic rims. That would not occur only at a particular pedal position or left foot pedaling only. At the 10 o'clock position you would be putting close to max power on the left crank (if I'm visualizing this right), especially when climbing. Anything from a handlebar stem to a seatpost/saddle could cause a click, but in your case, I'd suspect either the pedal, the crank attachment to the BB, or the BB itself. Check that the pedal is screwed in tight. Borrow a different pedal if possible to isolate. Check that the crank bolt is tight. Check chainring bolts for tightness. Add grease or teflon tape to the BB threads. First make sure it's not something silly like the right crank intermitently hitting the Front der. If the click isn't getting worse or driving you mad, learn to live with it. ;- Art Harris |
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Dave Hallsworth wrote:
Hi - I'm sure you get hundreds of these requests, but I'd be extremely grateful for any help! My bike has developed a intermittent click - by intermittent, I mean it will happen for a few minute, then disappear for a period of time; this could be a few minutes, could be an hour. It's a definite, short 'click', not a grind or anything like that. I seem to notice it more going uphill. It happens at the same stage of the pedal cycle (with the left crank at 10 o'clock). It doesn't happen if I peddle with my right foot only (i.e. left foot unclipped), but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left foot only. It happens on both sides of the SPD. I can't reproduce it pedalling backwards, or with the bike on the stand. I've tried tightening / loosening the SPDs with no effect. I haven't noticed it if I ride with normal shoes, but then again I didn't ride it for long to test it. The bike is a Raleigh steel frame road bike, Sora throughout, Ultegra hubs handbuild with Mavic CXP22s. The peddles are Wellgo MTB SPDs, and I ride them with a relatively cheep pair of Luck road shoes and Shimano cleats. The gears are set up pretty much perfectly, and as far as I'm aware (the bike is second hand from a careful owner), it's never been crashed. My intuition says it's something to do with the left SPD pedal / cleat, but I've heard something about a 'mavic tick'? Any suggestions of things I can try before taking it into the shop would be very much appreciated. Cheers, David I had something similar & it turned out to be one of the pins/rollers on the chain had broken. I had convinced myself it didnt happen when I pedalled one footed too. Stan Cox Stan Cox |
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My intuition says it's something to do with the left SPD pedal / cleat, but I've heard something about a 'mavic tick'? Any suggestions of things I can try before taking it into the shop would be very much appreciated. Cheers, David To eliminate the possibility of it being the crank/bb connection or pedal/crank thread you could use some copper anti-seize type grease. This can eliminate noise/clicking especially where steel and aluminium are connected together or aluminium to aluminium. |
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Dave Hallsworth wrote:
Hi - I'm sure you get hundreds of these requests, but I'd be extremely grateful for any help! My bike has developed a intermittent click - by intermittent, I mean it will happen for a few minute, then disappear for a period of time; this could be a few minutes, could be an hour. It's a definite, short 'click', not a grind or anything like that. I seem to notice it more going uphill. It happens at the same stage of the pedal cycle (with the left crank at 10 o'clock). It doesn't happen if I peddle with my right foot only (i.e. left foot unclipped), but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left foot only. It happens on both sides of the SPD. I can't reproduce it pedalling backwards, or with the bike on the stand. I've tried tightening / loosening the SPDs with no effect. I haven't noticed it if I ride with normal shoes, but then again I didn't ride it for long to test it. The bike is a Raleigh steel frame road bike, Sora throughout, Ultegra hubs handbuild with Mavic CXP22s. The peddles are Wellgo MTB SPDs, and I ride them with a relatively cheep pair of Luck road shoes and Shimano cleats. The gears are set up pretty much perfectly, and as far as I'm aware (the bike is second hand from a careful owner), it's never been crashed. My intuition says it's something to do with the left SPD pedal / cleat, but I've heard something about a 'mavic tick'? Any suggestions of things I can try before taking it into the shop would be very much appreciated. Cheers, David It can be almost ANYTHING. Check all the easy things first: spray WD40 on the SPD pedal claws, check the cranks are tight on their spindle, remove and replace the saddle after cleaning and greasing the rails (the saddle can be the source of more "pedalling" clicks than you'd credit) and grease the bar/stem interface. Check everything for cracks while you're at it. Finally, remove the bottom bracket, check it spins smoothly and refit it in the frame with copious amounts of anti-seize. Sod's Law dictated that this, being the most annoying and time consuming job, was the cure for my click. It won't be a stiff link in the chain; this would not happen at the same point in every crank revolution, or at least only in one gear. |
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dave- but does happen (intermittently) if I peddle with my left
foot only. BRBR Overhaul the pedals. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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