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Old June 26th 09, 10:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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I am a member of a forum that has a thread running about stupid
accidents. One person has said they left a teaspoon in a cup, someone
else has posted that they should have been wearing a cycle helmet. I am
going to reply (in a humorous way) by pointing to the piece of research
that shows wearing a cycle helmet saves leg injuries but I can't
remember where this paper/report is. Can anyone remember off hand a
link to this report?
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Old June 26th 09, 10:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Smiler wrote:
I am a member of a forum that has a thread running about stupid
accidents. One person has said they left a teaspoon in a cup, someone
else has posted that they should have been wearing a cycle helmet. I am
going to reply (in a humorous way) by pointing to the piece of research
that shows wearing a cycle helmet saves leg injuries but I can't
remember where this paper/report is. Can anyone remember off hand a
link to this report?


I am posting that you need to get a life/brain.

Happi
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Old June 26th 09, 10:22 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Happi Monday wrote:

I am posting that you need to get a life/brain.


Thanks for that.
Wouldn't it have been less hassle to just ignore the post?
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Old June 26th 09, 10:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:12:32 GMT, Smiler wrote:

I am a member of a forum that has a thread running about stupid
accidents. One person has said they left a teaspoon in a cup, someone
else has posted that they should have been wearing a cycle helmet. I am
going to reply (in a humorous way) by pointing to the piece of research
that shows wearing a cycle helmet saves leg injuries but I can't
remember where this paper/report is. Can anyone remember off hand a
link to this report?


http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1068.html but I am not sure which
dissection of the thing you want.

Guy
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Old June 26th 09, 10:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1068.html but I am not sure which
dissection of the thing you want.


Thanks for replying Guy.


The bit where someone says that cycle helmets prevent leg injuries going
by the results.
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Old June 26th 09, 10:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:40:08 GMT, Smiler wrote:

http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1068.html but I am not sure which
dissection of the thing you want.


Thanks for replying Guy.
The bit where someone says that cycle helmets prevent leg injuries going
by the results.


That comes form a re-analysis by Dorothy Robinson of the original data
(they have not released it again since to my knowledge, can't imagine
why). The figures in the original study give some idea of this.

Guy
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Old June 26th 09, 10:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:12:32 GMT, Smiler wrote:

I am a member of a forum that has a thread running about stupid
accidents. One person has said they left a teaspoon in a cup, someone
else has posted that they should have been wearing a cycle helmet. I am
going to reply (in a humorous way) by pointing to the piece of research
that shows wearing a cycle helmet saves leg injuries but I can't
remember where this paper/report is. Can anyone remember off hand a
link to this report?


http://www.cyclehelmets.org/1068.html but I am not sure which
dissection of the thing you want.

Guy



www.cyclehelmets.org quotes


Thompson, Rivara & Thompson. New England Journal of Medicine 1989, Vol
320 No 21 p1361-7.

Same data set used in this other paper by the same authors:
A case-control study on the effectiveness of bicycle safety helmets in
preventing facial injury.
American Journal of Public Health, 1990; 80(12):1471-1474.


is there anything different in ?

http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detai...&AN=9704045139


which is 1996
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Old June 26th 09, 11:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 26 June, 22:12, Smiler wrote:
I am a member of a forum that has a thread running about stupid
accidents. *One person has said they left a teaspoon in a cup, someone
else has posted that they should have been wearing a cycle helmet. I am
going to reply (in a humorous way) by pointing to the piece of research
that shows wearing a cycle helmet saves leg injuries but I can't
remember where this paper/report is. *Can anyone remember off hand a
link to this report?


It was one of the (many) skeptical reviews of the original Thompson,
Rivara & Thompson report, but I can't remember which one. The data
that helmets protect against leg injuries comes from the TRT report,
but the conclusion itself was not drawn out by them.
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Old June 26th 09, 11:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:44:10 +0100, Marc
wrote:

is there anything different in ?
http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detai...&AN=9704045139
which is 1996


Depends what you mean by different. It is a /different/ set of
implausibly high predictions of protective effect against parts of the
body not obviously covered (in this case specifically the mid-face).

It's a questionnaire-based study so the usual selection bias applies.
Needless to say when they talk about the "known protection against
head injuries" the reference is their own work. And as you'd expect
from this group a third of the references in the study are also to
their own work.

Guy
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Old June 27th 09, 08:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Smiler wrote:
Happi Monday wrote:

I am posting that you need to get a life/brain.


Thanks for that.
Wouldn't it have been less hassle to just ignore the post?


Ditto.
 




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