Right about now

"gym gravity" wrote in message
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B. Lafferty wrote:

That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he
tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal
relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin.

So he still races p12 events, why doesn't any one flick him into a gaurd
rail?

Wouldn't that be assault (unless it was done by Armstrong, of course)?

(Scott Hendricks) wrote:

Phonak doesn't own the team, a sports marketing outfit does. Phonak's
contract is with the marketing company, not the riders. It's very
likely that Phonak's contract is specifically tied to the team's
ability to get entry into the big races, whether GT's or the ProTour
races.

Without that guaranteed entry by the team, Phonak takes their
checkbook and walks and the riders are left to deal with the Swiss
equivelant of Horseteef.

Phonak AG (the sponsor) founder/CEO: Andy Rihs
Phonak Cycling (the sports marketing outfit): ARcycling AG

I'm sure they've set 'em up as separate entities w/ contracts and all,
but it's not quite the strictly bizness relationship. Rihs is a
Friend of Cycling who founded the team as a publicity vehicle, and he
hired Tyler because he wants to expand Phonak into the US market (it's
#3 worldwide, allegedly). Of course, Rihs would fold the team in a
Zurich minute if he thought it was hurting the company.

(Scott Hendricks) wrote:

Phonak doesn't own the team, a sports marketing outfit does. Phonak's
contract is with the marketing company, not the riders. It's very
likely that Phonak's contract is specifically tied to the team's
ability to get entry into the big races, whether GT's or the ProTour
races.

Without that guaranteed entry by the team, Phonak takes their
checkbook and walks and the riders are left to deal with the Swiss
equivelant of Horseteef.

Phonak AG (the sponsor) founder/CEO: Andy Rihs
Phonak Cycling (the sports marketing outfit): ARcycling AG

I'm sure they've set 'em up as separate entities w/ contracts and all,
but it's not quite the strictly bizness relationship. Rihs is a
Friend of Cycling who founded the team as a publicity vehicle, and he
hired Tyler because he wants to expand Phonak into the US market (it's
#3 worldwide, allegedly). Of course, Rihs would fold the team in a
Zurich minute if he thought it was hurting the company.

gym gravity wrote:
So he still races p12 events, why doesn't any one flick him into a gaurd
rail?

B. Lafferty wrote:
Wouldn't that be assault (unless it was done by Armstrong, of course)?

Just to get us back on topic again (this ng is about music isn't it), that
sounds a bit like lyrics from a Clash song.

gym gravity wrote:
So he still races p12 events, why doesn't any one flick him into a gaurd
rail?

B. Lafferty wrote:
Wouldn't that be assault (unless it was done by Armstrong, of course)?

Just to get us back on topic again (this ng is about music isn't it), that
sounds a bit like lyrics from a Clash song.

B. Lafferty wrote:

Wouldn't that be assault (unless it was done by Armstrong, of course)?

It all depends on what the "witnesses" "see".

B. Lafferty wrote:

Wouldn't that be assault (unless it was done by Armstrong, of course)?

It all depends on what the "witnesses" "see".