Cheapish full-sus for fat bloke?

I weigh 19 stone (266lb) and I'm looking for the impossible - a full sus
bike for XC riding that will a) take the strain and b) cost up to, but no
more than, 1,000 quid (UK)

Any recommendations from the other big geezers out there? Oh - and I'd like
hydraulic discs too :-)

Later,

Fred

"Fred Fragger" wrote in message ...
I weigh 19 stone (266lb) and I'm looking for the impossible - a full sus
bike for XC riding that will a) take the strain and b) cost up to, but no
more than, 1,000 quid (UK)

Any recommendations from the other big geezers out there? Oh - and I'd like
hydraulic discs too :-)

I don't know how many stones my 225lbs is, but I do know that at your
weight you will not be able to get a good, dependable, or strong full
suspension bike for a grand.

JD

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:24:54 -0800, JD wrote:

I weigh 19 stone (266lb) and I'm looking for the impossible - a full sus
bike for XC riding that will a) take the strain and b) cost up to, but no
more than, 1,000 quid (UK)

Any recommendations from the other big geezers out there? Oh - and I'd like
hydraulic discs too :-)

I don't know how many stones my 225lbs is,

16 (14lbs to the stone).

but I do know that at your
weight you will not be able to get a good, dependable, or strong full
suspension bike for a grand.

Absolutely. The closest you'd get would be the Kona Coiler, but that's
1500.

You could go second-hand, but then you're in to a whole different fire.

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"bomba" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:24:54 -0800, JD wrote:

I weigh 19 stone (266lb) and I'm looking for the impossible - a full
sus
bike for XC riding that will a) take the strain and b) cost up to, but
no
more than, 1,000 quid (UK)

Any recommendations from the other big geezers out there? Oh - and I'd
like
hydraulic discs too :-)

I don't know how many stones my 225lbs is,

16 (14lbs to the stone).

but I do know that at your
weight you will not be able to get a good, dependable, or strong full
suspension bike for a grand.

Absolutely. The closest you'd get would be the Kona Coiler, but that's
1500.

You could go second-hand, but then you're in to a whole different fire.

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B,

Since the latest exchange rates put the BP at .54 to the USD I'd say he is
well within the Kona's range. No need for second hand with close to $1900
USD to spend.

Marty

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:08:58 -0500, Marty wrote:

Since the latest exchange rates put the BP at .54 to the USD I'd say he is
well within the Kona's range. No need for second hand with close to $1900
USD to spend.

Oh, the naivety. If only it worked that way...

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On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:24:54 -0800, JD wrote:

I weigh 19 stone (266lb) and I'm looking for the impossible - a full
sus
bike for XC riding that will a) take the strain and b) cost up to,
but
no
more than, 1,000 quid (UK)

Any recommendations from the other big geezers out there? Oh - and
I'd
like
hydraulic discs too :-)

I don't know how many stones my 225lbs is,

16 (14lbs to the stone).

but I do know that at your
weight you will not be able to get a good, dependable, or strong full
suspension bike for a grand.

Absolutely. The closest you'd get would be the Kona Coiler, but that's
1500.

You could go second-hand, but then you're in to a whole different fire.

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B,

Since the latest exchange rates put the BP at .54 to the USD I'd say he is
well within the Kona's range. No need for second hand with close to $1900
USD to spend.

Marty

You'd think that wouldn't you... sadly it doesn't work out that way.

Steve.

bomba wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:24:54 -0800, JD wrote:


I weigh 19 stone (266lb) and I'm looking for the impossible - a full sus
bike for XC riding that will a) take the strain and b) cost up to, but no
more than, 1,000 quid (UK)

Any recommendations from the other big geezers out there? Oh - and I'd like
hydraulic discs too :-)

I don't know how many stones my 225lbs is,


16 (14lbs to the stone).

but I do know that at your

weight you will not be able to get a good, dependable, or strong full
suspension bike for a grand.


Absolutely. The closest you'd get would be the Kona Coiler, but that's
1500.

You could go second-hand, but then you're in to a whole different fire.


He said 1000 quid, not U$1000. Won't that be equivalent to U$1800?

-Zilla

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:36:49 -0500, Zilla wrote:

He said 1000 quid, not U$1000. Won't that be equivalent to U$1800?

Oh, another from the naive camp. Look, it just doesn't work like that.
Much as we in Europe would like parity of price based on pure exchange
rates, it just doesn't happen.

As a prime example, Kona show the prices on their website for all parts of
the world. Take a look at this:
http://www.konaworld.com/2k4bikes/2k4_dawgmatic.cfm - You'll notice that
the US price is $1299. At today's current exchange rate (1USD = 0.545GBP),
that would be £707.36. Now look at what the recommended retail price
for the UK actually is. £1300! Nearly double the cost of the US model.
Have a look through their other models and you'll notice huge
discrepancies - pricing appears to be completely arbitrary.

It's not just bikes either. The Thomson seat post I just bought? UK cost
= £70, US cost = $80. "Ah, but this is all US-made equipent", I hear you
say, "You have to take in to account shipping, duties, distributors costs,
training monkeys and so on"

OK, How about a USE Alien seatpost? UK cost = £60. The equivalent US cost
would be $110. That's before all those extra costs. Actual US cost = $90.
Yes, we actually pay more for UK products, made in the UK, than you do for
the same product after it's been shipped to the States.

And we're definitely not bitter about it...

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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:36:49 -0500, Zilla wrote:

He said 1000 quid, not U$1000. Won't that be equivalent to U$1800?

Oh, another from the naive camp. Look, it just doesn't work like that.
Much as we in Europe would like parity of price based on pure exchange
rates, it just doesn't happen.

As a prime example, Kona show the prices on their website for all parts of
the world. Take a look at this:
http://www.konaworld.com/2k4bikes/2k4_dawgmatic.cfm - You'll notice that
the US price is $1299. At today's current exchange rate (1USD = 0.545GBP),
that would be £707.36. Now look at what the recommended retail price
for the UK actually is. £1300! Nearly double the cost of the US model.
Have a look through their other models and you'll notice huge
discrepancies - pricing appears to be completely arbitrary.

It's not just bikes either. The Thomson seat post I just bought? UK cost
= £70, US cost = $80. "Ah, but this is all US-made equipent", I hear you
say, "You have to take in to account shipping, duties, distributors costs,
training monkeys and so on"

OK, How about a USE Alien seatpost? UK cost = £60. The equivalent US cost
would be $110. That's before all those extra costs. Actual US cost = $90.
Yes, we actually pay more for UK products, made in the UK, than you do for
the same product after it's been shipped to the States.

And we're definitely not bitter about it...

True, but at least

"spademan o---[) *" wrote in message
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"bomba" wrote in message
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:36:49 -0500, Zilla wrote:

He said 1000 quid, not U$1000. Won't that be equivalent to U$1800?

Oh, another from the naive camp. Look, it just doesn't work like that.
Much as we in Europe would like parity of price based on pure exchange
rates, it just doesn't happen.

As a prime example, Kona show the prices on their website for all parts
of
the world. Take a look at this:
http://www.konaworld.com/2k4bikes/2k4_dawgmatic.cfm - You'll notice that
the US price is $1299. At today's current exchange rate (1USD =
0.545GBP),
that would be £707.36. Now look at what the recommended retail price
for the UK actually is. £1300! Nearly double the cost of the US model.
Have a look through their other models and you'll notice huge
discrepancies - pricing appears to be completely arbitrary.

It's not just bikes either. The Thomson seat post I just bought? UK
cost
= £70, US cost = $80. "Ah, but this is all US-made equipent", I hear
you
say, "You have to take in to account shipping, duties, distributors
costs,
training monkeys and so on"

OK, How about a USE Alien seatpost? UK cost = £60. The equivalent US
cost
would be $110. That's before all those extra costs. Actual US cost =
$90.
Yes, we actually pay more for UK products, made in the UK, than you do
for
the same product after it's been shipped to the States.

And we're definitely not bitter about it...

True, but at least
.... we know how to make (and drink) great bitter...