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November 18th 04, 04:23 PM
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MagillaGorilla wrote in message ...
Wordin had a contractual clause to withhold salaries if a sponsor went bankrupt. So he enforced it. In Phonak, this is not the situation - they are saying they will pull out of the sport on their own initiative. That doesn't relieve them of their contractual obligations to pay their riders. Take care, Magilla Phonak doesn't own the team, a sports marketing outfit does. Phonak's contract is with the marketing company, not the riders. It's very likely that Phonak's contract is specifically tied to the team's ability to get entry into the big races, whether GT's or the ProTour races. Without that guaranteed entry by the team, Phonak takes their checkbook and walks and the riders are left to deal with the Swiss equivelant of Horseteef. 
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November 18th 04, 04:42 PM
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"Scott Hendricks" wrote in message om... MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Wordin had a contractual clause to withhold salaries if a sponsor went bankrupt. So he enforced it. In Phonak, this is not the situation - they are saying they will pull out of the sport on their own initiative. That doesn't relieve them of their contractual obligations to pay their riders. Take care, Magilla Phonak doesn't own the team, a sports marketing outfit does. Phonak's contract is with the marketing company, not the riders. It's very likely that Phonak's contract is specifically tied to the team's ability to get entry into the big races, whether GT's or the ProTour races. That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin.
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November 18th 04, 04:42 PM
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"Scott Hendricks" wrote in message om... MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Wordin had a contractual clause to withhold salaries if a sponsor went bankrupt. So he enforced it. In Phonak, this is not the situation - they are saying they will pull out of the sport on their own initiative. That doesn't relieve them of their contractual obligations to pay their riders. Take care, Magilla Phonak doesn't own the team, a sports marketing outfit does. Phonak's contract is with the marketing company, not the riders. It's very likely that Phonak's contract is specifically tied to the team's ability to get entry into the big races, whether GT's or the ProTour races. That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin.
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November 18th 04, 05:34 PM
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B. Lafferty Wrote: "Scott Hendricks" wrote in message om... MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Wordin had a contractual clause to withhold salaries if a sponsor went bankrupt. So he enforced it. In Phonak, this is not the situation - they are saying they will pull out of the sport on their own initiative. That doesn't relieve them of their contractual obligations to pay their riders. Take care, Magilla Phonak doesn't own the team, a sports marketing outfit does. Phonak's contract is with the marketing company, not the riders. It's very likely that Phonak's contract is specifically tied to the team's ability to get entry into the big races, whether GT's or the ProTour races. That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin. does anybody know why magilla gorilla is so obnoxious, saying things like ****hole and ****head, i dont get it. so you disagree, just say that and chill the **** out -- pk273340
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November 18th 04, 05:34 PM
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B. Lafferty Wrote: "Scott Hendricks" wrote in message om... MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Wordin had a contractual clause to withhold salaries if a sponsor went bankrupt. So he enforced it. In Phonak, this is not the situation - they are saying they will pull out of the sport on their own initiative. That doesn't relieve them of their contractual obligations to pay their riders. Take care, Magilla Phonak doesn't own the team, a sports marketing outfit does. Phonak's contract is with the marketing company, not the riders. It's very likely that Phonak's contract is specifically tied to the team's ability to get entry into the big races, whether GT's or the ProTour races. That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin. does anybody know why magilla gorilla is so obnoxious, saying things like ****hole and ****head, i dont get it. so you disagree, just say that and chill the **** out -- pk273340
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November 18th 04, 08:42 PM
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pk273340 Wrote: does anybody know why magilla gorilla is so obnoxious, saying things like ****hole and ****head, i dont get it. so you disagree, just say that and chill the **** out Because (s)he is either Tyler or Haven Hamilton and (s)he is feeling a tad stressed at the moment. It's a sign of not coping. You just have to feel sorry for them. -- patch70
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November 18th 04, 08:42 PM
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pk273340 Wrote: does anybody know why magilla gorilla is so obnoxious, saying things like ****hole and ****head, i dont get it. so you disagree, just say that and chill the **** out Because (s)he is either Tyler or Haven Hamilton and (s)he is feeling a tad stressed at the moment. It's a sign of not coping. You just have to feel sorry for them. -- patch70
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#28
November 18th 04, 08:46 PM
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B. Lafferty wrote:
That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin. So he still races p12 events, why doesn't any one flick him into a gaurd rail? Shouldn't someone have done the same with Fuentes while they still had the chance? Pussies.
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November 18th 04, 08:46 PM
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B. Lafferty wrote:
That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin. So he still races p12 events, why doesn't any one flick him into a gaurd rail? Shouldn't someone have done the same with Fuentes while they still had the chance? Pussies.
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November 18th 04, 08:51 PM
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"gym gravity" wrote in message ... B. Lafferty wrote: That seems to be the general rule. When Wordin didn't pay his riders, he tried to put it off on the sponsors, but the riders had no legal relationship with them (Comptel?) and were stuck going after Wordin. So he still races p12 events, why doesn't any one flick him into a gaurd rail? Wouldn't that be assault (unless it was done by Armstrong, of course)?
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