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Ontario Helmet Law being pushed through
The law would apply to people who skateboard, ride scooters or in-line
skate. Apparently they have decided to leave adult cyclists alone for now. http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Stor...4-009/page.asp My favourite part: "That includes N.D.P. MPP Michael Prue, who lost his brother to a bike accident in 1998. “There isn't a day goes by that I don't see someone on the streets of Toronto, an adult, with no helmet on their head, and I want to get out of my car or off the sidewalk and I want to grab them and I want to shake them,” he reflects. “I want to tell them that this was an absolutely wrong thing, a bad thing to happen." -- "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber- baron's cruelty may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:28:26 -0500, Chris B.
wrote in message : "That includes N.D.P. MPP Michael Prue, who lost his brother to a bike accident in 1998. “There isn't a day goes by that I don't see someone on the streets of Toronto, an adult, with no helmet on their head, and I want to get out of my car or off the sidewalk and I want to grab them and I want to shake them,” he reflects. “I want to tell them that this was an absolutely wrong thing, a bad thing to happen." Amazing, isn't it, how people read what they want to read into the statement "Helmets cannot always protect against injury. Even a very low speed impact can result in serious injury or death. Any helmet subjected to a sever impact should be discarded and destroyed, even though damage may not be outwardly visible. Since this helmet is made of polystyrene foam, there is a chance it may be penetrated by sharp objects" (instructions from a Bell helmet) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:28:26 -0500, Chris B.
wrote: The law would apply to people who skateboard, ride scooters or in-line skate. Apparently they have decided to leave adult cyclists alone for now. Oops, I was mistaken. This law will apply to cyclists of all ages as well. http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Stor...4-009/page.asp My favourite part: "That includes N.D.P. MPP Michael Prue, who lost his brother to a bike accident in 1998. “There isn't a day goes by that I don't see someone on the streets of Toronto, an adult, with no helmet on their head, and I want to get out of my car or off the sidewalk and I want to grab them and I want to shake them,” he reflects. “I want to tell them that this was an absolutely wrong thing, a bad thing to happen." |
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:28:26 -0500, Chris B. wrote:
Apparently they have decided to leave adult cyclists alone for now. Helmet laws do nothing to stop people from riding like idiots. Ticketing irresponsible riders might... |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:00:24 GMT, maxo wrote:
Helmet laws do nothing to stop people from riding like idiots. They do! They do! Oh, riding /like idiots/. As you were then. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:10:06 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
Helmet laws do nothing to stop people from riding like idiots. They do! They do! I just think this is an absurd way to go about public safety. I'm no more against helmets than seatbelts and airbags...but address the cause--why are bikes & riders hitting the pavement--not the symptom--purple owies. I've lived in places in the world where people are much more bike savvy than in the US and Canada and follow the rules of the road better--they don't seem to wear a lot of helmets, though they're catching on for kids, but they don't seem to fall down as much either. |
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maxo :
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:10:06 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: Helmet laws do nothing to stop people from riding like idiots. They do! They do! I just think this is an absurd way to go about public safety. I'm no more against helmets than seatbelts and airbags. [...] You're of course free to have an opiinion on everything, but this is somewhat misleading. There is a difference. Seatbelts work. So do airbags, to a much lesser extend and only when combined with a properly worn belts. Bicycle helmets, on the other hand, have been shown _not_ to work. -- Radhelme sind die Bachblüten des Straßenverkehrs |
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Wolfgang Strobl writes:
maxo : On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:10:06 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: Helmet laws do nothing to stop people from riding like idiots. They do! They do! I just think this is an absurd way to go about public safety. I'm no more against helmets than seatbelts and airbags. [...] You're of course free to have an opiinion on everything, but this is somewhat misleading. There is a difference. Seatbelts work. So do airbags, to a much lesser extend and only when combined with a properly worn belts. Bicycle helmets, on the other hand, have been shown _not_ to work. Wolfgang is back, repeating the same things he's said for years. -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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Chris B. quoted someone thusly
in message . .. "That includes N.D.P. MPP Michael Prue, who lost his brother to a bike accident in 1998. ?There isn't a day goes by that I don't see someone on the streets of Toronto, an adult, with no helmet on their head, and I want to get out of my car or off the sidewalk and I want to grab them and I want to shake them,? he reflects. ?I want to tell them that this was an absolutely wrong thing, a bad thing to happen." Oh dear! Shaking them? MPP Prue really should read up on rotational injuries that are not prevented --- and may be exacerbated -- by wearing a helmet. Peter Storey |
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According to Canadian Cyclist
http://www.canadiancyclist.com/daily...2.39PM17.shtml it has been sent to committee for study. It would seem to me that some benefit might be obtained by targeting the members of this committee. Does anybody know the correct procedure for such communication. Another case of politicians making decisions with bad information and once this happens laws may be modified but never repealed as that would cause loss of face for the originators of such poorly considered statutes. Since CPSC bicycle helmets are designed for low speed, low energy impacts and more head injuries occur from slipping in the bathtub or shower than bicycling perhaps as an alternative mandating the use in that environment would make far more sense. ;^) Marcus Coles |
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