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The drivers stopped by police in Hull and East Yorkshire thisweek
On 25/05/2020 23:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 25/05/2020 22:34, Simon Mason wrote: QUOTE: Police have clocked a motorist speeding at 120mph on the M62... ...Â* which is 50mph over the 70mph speed limit. "One driver was caught doing 116mph in a 60mph limit – almost double the speed limit I always wonder why it is necessary to embellish stories like this. Though, given the way journalists (particularly the BBC) love to show off their prowess with a calculator, I am surprised they haven't given it as a percentage. Just be grateful they've kept it in mph. When the BBC reports any measurement of distance, they like to use metric as first choice and imperial measures (the only ones with any official status in the UK) as the dowdy runner-up. I blame those trendy teachers at Holland Park Comp in the 70s and 80s. |
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On 25/05/2020 23:45, JNugent wrote:
On 25/05/2020 21:45, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 20:59, JNugent wrote: On 24/05/2020 14:09, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 12:40, JNugent wrote: Â* https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...e-week-4159763 The people behind the wheels of those vehicles will soon be cyclists (if they're not already). It'll be all they're qualified for. And it could, on reflection, explain a few things. But any rule breaking will be an irritation, not a danger. Which makes a difference. Tell that to the bereaved relatives of the pedestrians. Given the courts have very restricted punishments at their disposal to drivers that kill, I expect turning the perpetrator into an irritant is probably sometimes the best the relatives can hope for. We were referring, of course, to cyclists who kill. I am looking at statistics. What are you looking at? I bet you'll try to get away bwith the old, old, lie, that cyclists never hurt anyone. You're still in denial about putting your convenience above the safety of others. |
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On 25/05/2020 23:50, JNugent wrote:
On 25/05/2020 23:05, TMS320 wrote: On 25/05/2020 22:34, Simon Mason wrote: QUOTE: Police have clocked a motorist speeding at 120mph on the M62... ... which is 50mph over the 70mph speed limit. "One driver was caught doing 116mph in a 60mph limit – almost double the speed limit I always wonder why it is necessary to embellish stories like this. Though, given the way journalists (particularly the BBC) love to show off their prowess with a calculator, I am surprised they haven't given it as a percentage. Just be grateful they've kept it in mph. My view is that it is daft that roads are still measured in miles. Australia and New Zealand converted properly. When the BBC reports any measurement of distance, they like to use metric as first choice and imperial measures (the only ones with any official status in the UK) as the dowdy runner-up. Quite right too (except where we still keep old measures - as above). I blame those trendy teachers at Holland Park Comp in the 70s and 80s. I lived in metric land as a child. Yet in the class for ex-pat children we still had to wade through tedious conversions between loads of weird imperial units. |
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On 26/05/2020 00:03, TMS320 wrote:
On 25/05/2020 23:45, JNugent wrote: On 25/05/2020 21:45, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 20:59, JNugent wrote: On 24/05/2020 14:09, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 12:40, JNugent wrote: Â* https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...e-week-4159763 The people behind the wheels of those vehicles will soon be cyclists (if they're not already). It'll be all they're qualified for. And it could, on reflection, explain a few things. But any rule breaking will be an irritation, not a danger. Which makes a difference. Tell that to the bereaved relatives of the pedestrians. Given the courts have very restricted punishments at their disposal to drivers that kill, I expect turning the perpetrator into an irritant is probably sometimes the best the relatives can hope for. We were referring, of course, to cyclists who kill. I am looking at statistics. What are you looking at? Cyclist who kill (and injure). I knew you wouldn't want to be looking at that, for some reason. I bet you'll try to get away bwith the old, old, lie, that cyclists never hurt anyone. You're still in denial about putting your convenience above the safety of others. I threaten no-one's safety. I do not ignore red traffic lights and I do not travel along footways unless on foot. Except in exceptionally rare cases of on the spot error, I comply with one-way working. |
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On 26/05/2020 01:31, JNugent wrote:
On 26/05/2020 00:03, TMS320 wrote: On 25/05/2020 23:45, JNugent wrote: On 25/05/2020 21:45, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 20:59, JNugent wrote: On 24/05/2020 14:09, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 12:40, JNugent wrote: Â* https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...e-week-4159763 The people behind the wheels of those vehicles will soon be cyclists (if they're not already). It'll be all they're qualified for. And it could, on reflection, explain a few things. But any rule breaking will be an irritation, not a danger. Which makes a difference. Tell that to the bereaved relatives of the pedestrians. Given the courts have very restricted punishments at their disposal to drivers that kill, I expect turning the perpetrator into an irritant is probably sometimes the best the relatives can hope for. We were referring, of course, to cyclists who kill. I am looking at statistics. What are you looking at? Cyclist who kill (and injure). I expect you could name every one. I knew you wouldn't want to be looking at that, for some reason. I bet you'll try to get away bwith the old, old, lie, that cyclists never hurt anyone. You're still in denial about putting your convenience above the safety of others. I threaten no-one's safety. I do not ignore red traffic lights and I do not travel along footways unless on foot. Except in exceptionally rare cases of on the spot error, I comply with one-way working. Which confirms how you're in denial about your contribution to danger. |
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JNugent wrote:
On 25/05/2020 14:28, Kelly wrote: [ ... ] I don't doubt some of the 'new cyclists' will indeed be previous cyclists who thought they had graduated forever to becoming car drivers but it was eventually found to be shown that they were not responsible and capable enough to be allowed to drive such powerful motor driven machines... ... and so could only be trusted with bicycles*, given their levels of skill and sociopathy. You won't find me in much disagreement with you on that. Well, I believe I did say just about as much... and more. [* Even that is only because the law effectively has to trust them with bicycles.] That's the law for you, not only written to protect our general safety but also to ensure the rights of individuals. If some people can not even be trusted with bicycles, however, there are yet further laws to deal with them. I guess there will always be people who think existing laws aren't being enforced enough, or that new laws need to be added, to improve given situations. But given how people differ so much in their worldly views you are never going to please all the people all the time, are you? |
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On 08:34 26 May 2020, TMS320 said:
On 26/05/2020 01:31, JNugent wrote: On 26/05/2020 00:03, TMS320 wrote: On 25/05/2020 23:45, JNugent wrote: On 25/05/2020 21:45, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 20:59, JNugent wrote: On 24/05/2020 14:09, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 12:40, JNugent wrote: Â* https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...ast-yorkshire- news/dri vers-stopped-humberside-police-week-4159763 The people behind the wheels of those vehicles will soon be cyclists (if they're not already). It'll be all they're qualified for. And it could, on reflection, explain a few things. But any rule breaking will be an irritation, not a danger. Which makes a difference. Tell that to the bereaved relatives of the pedestrians. Given the courts have very restricted punishments at their disposal to drivers that kill, I expect turning the perpetrator into an irritant is probably sometimes the best the relatives can hope for. We were referring, of course, to cyclists who kill. I am looking at statistics. What are you looking at? Cyclist who kill (and injure). I expect you could name every one. I knew you wouldn't want to be looking at that, for some reason. I bet you'll try to get away bwith the old, old, lie, that cyclists never hurt anyone. You're still in denial about putting your convenience above the safety of others. I threaten no-one's safety. I do not ignore red traffic lights and I do not travel along footways unless on foot. Except in exceptionally rare cases of on the spot error, I comply with one-way working. Which confirms how you're in denial about your contribution to danger. Could you kindly describe exactly which of Nugent's contributions to danger, if any, you have in mind. |
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On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 10:56:54 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 25/05/2020 21:54, Simon Mason wrote: On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 9:45:09 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote: Given the courts have very restricted punishments at their disposal to drivers that kill, I expect turning the perpetrator into an irritant is probably sometimes the best the relatives can hope for. How many innocent people do UK drivers kill every day now - is it 7 or 8? 800 pedestrians a year. 3800 KSI. Whereas cyclists kill 0-1 people every year, usually people who walk into the road in front of one. |
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On 26/05/2020 11:15, Pamela wrote:
On 08:34 26 May 2020, TMS320 said: On 26/05/2020 01:31, JNugent wrote: On 26/05/2020 00:03, TMS320 wrote: On 25/05/2020 23:45, JNugent wrote: On 25/05/2020 21:45, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 20:59, JNugent wrote: On 24/05/2020 14:09, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 12:40, JNugent wrote: ÂÂ* https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...ast-yorkshire- news/dri vers-stopped-humberside-police-week-4159763 The people behind the wheels of those vehicles will soon be cyclists (if they're not already). It'll be all they're qualified for. And it could, on reflection, explain a few things. But any rule breaking will be an irritation, not a danger. Which makes a difference. Tell that to the bereaved relatives of the pedestrians. Given the courts have very restricted punishments at their disposal to drivers that kill, I expect turning the perpetrator into an irritant is probably sometimes the best the relatives can hope for. We were referring, of course, to cyclists who kill. I am looking at statistics. What are you looking at? Cyclist who kill (and injure). I expect you could name every one. I knew you wouldn't want to be looking at that, for some reason. I bet you'll try to get away bwith the old, old, lie, that cyclists never hurt anyone. You're still in denial about putting your convenience above the safety of others. I threaten no-one's safety. I do not ignore red traffic lights and I do not travel along footways unless on foot. Except in exceptionally rare cases of on the spot error, I comply with one-way working. Which confirms how you're in denial about your contribution to danger. Could you kindly describe exactly which of Nugent's contributions to danger, if any, you have in mind. Don't be daft. He's as likely to do that as he is to condemn his own footway cycling or the episodes where he screams at pedestrians to get out of the effin' way, into the road and OFF THE PAVEMENT! |
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On 26/05/2020 11:15, Pamela wrote:
On 08:34 26 May 2020, TMS320 said: On 26/05/2020 01:31, JNugent wrote: On 26/05/2020 00:03, TMS320 wrote: On 25/05/2020 23:45, JNugent wrote: On 25/05/2020 21:45, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 20:59, JNugent wrote: On 24/05/2020 14:09, TMS320 wrote: On 24/05/2020 12:40, JNugent wrote: ÂÂ* https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...ast-yorkshire- news/dri vers-stopped-humberside-police-week-4159763 The people behind the wheels of those vehicles will soon be cyclists (if they're not already). It'll be all they're qualified for. And it could, on reflection, explain a few things. But any rule breaking will be an irritation, not a danger. Which makes a difference. Tell that to the bereaved relatives of the pedestrians. Given the courts have very restricted punishments at their disposal to drivers that kill, I expect turning the perpetrator into an irritant is probably sometimes the best the relatives can hope for. We were referring, of course, to cyclists who kill. I am looking at statistics. What are you looking at? Cyclist who kill (and injure). I expect you could name every one. I knew you wouldn't want to be looking at that, for some reason. I bet you'll try to get away bwith the old, old, lie, that cyclists never hurt anyone. You're still in denial about putting your convenience above the safety of others. I threaten no-one's safety. I do not ignore red traffic lights and I do not travel along footways unless on foot. Except in exceptionally rare cases of on the spot error, I comply with one-way working. Which confirms how you're in denial about your contribution to danger. Could you kindly describe exactly which of Nugent's contributions to danger, if any, you have in mind. My definition of danger to pedestrians is that 3800 a year are KSId by drivers. There can be no other metric. |
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