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Old May 21st 04, 11:32 PM
TritonRider
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From: "Sierraman"
Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM Eastern


If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go Finland
didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?



I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any excuse is a good one. If
you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering section. Considering the the
hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th, currently, is pretty damn
good. Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a really good
picture of her. A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was in a
black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so exotic and Euro, reading
a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image", but it worked.
Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long as she stays with
Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not sure how she does
without the handlers.
Not sure about Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a pretty damn good.
Go Lyne
Bill C
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Old May 22nd 04, 12:37 AM
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"TritonRider" wrote in message
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From: "Sierraman"
Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM Eastern


If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go

Finland
didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?



I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any excuse is a good

one. If
you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering section. Considering

the the
hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th, currently, is pretty

damn
good.


Bessette is very consistent, IMO, she is in the top 5 riders in the world,
if I stop to think a little I might have to bump her down to the top ten but
she is like I said, very consistent at giving great results in just about
anything she enters. However last year in the worlds she failed miseably in
both the TT and the road. In her interview she couldn't account for the bad
results except that she did her best. She was coming off a broken
collarbone.

Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a really good
picture of her.


Yeah, Dede is hot, but don't look too close or you might notice her twisted
buckteeth, which she needs to take some of her race earnings and head to the
specialists for either train tracks or some vaneers.

A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was in a
black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so exotic and Euro,

reading
a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image", but it worked.


I saw a photo of Bessettes from last years race, not sure which summer
classic, but on the podium she was wearing something that looked like when
girls wrap towels around their waist on the beach. Kind of odd.

Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long as she stays

with
Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not sure how she does
without the handlers.


Jeanson is a no go this year, and if she fails at the games, she could end
up with a zero year. Actually her bad luck started last year at the worlds
and she hasn't produced any results since.

Not sure about Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a pretty damn

good.
Go Lyne


Yup, USA three out of top 4 in Tour de L'Aude. Luperini won the Tour De
Berne this year a short while back.

BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road race,
after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.

Bill C



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Old May 22nd 04, 12:37 AM
Sierraman
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"TritonRider" wrote in message
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From: "Sierraman"
Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM Eastern


If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go

Finland
didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?



I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any excuse is a good

one. If
you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering section. Considering

the the
hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th, currently, is pretty

damn
good.


Bessette is very consistent, IMO, she is in the top 5 riders in the world,
if I stop to think a little I might have to bump her down to the top ten but
she is like I said, very consistent at giving great results in just about
anything she enters. However last year in the worlds she failed miseably in
both the TT and the road. In her interview she couldn't account for the bad
results except that she did her best. She was coming off a broken
collarbone.

Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a really good
picture of her.


Yeah, Dede is hot, but don't look too close or you might notice her twisted
buckteeth, which she needs to take some of her race earnings and head to the
specialists for either train tracks or some vaneers.

A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was in a
black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so exotic and Euro,

reading
a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image", but it worked.


I saw a photo of Bessettes from last years race, not sure which summer
classic, but on the podium she was wearing something that looked like when
girls wrap towels around their waist on the beach. Kind of odd.

Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long as she stays

with
Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not sure how she does
without the handlers.


Jeanson is a no go this year, and if she fails at the games, she could end
up with a zero year. Actually her bad luck started last year at the worlds
and she hasn't produced any results since.

Not sure about Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a pretty damn

good.
Go Lyne


Yup, USA three out of top 4 in Tour de L'Aude. Luperini won the Tour De
Berne this year a short while back.

BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road race,
after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.

Bill C



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Old May 22nd 04, 01:37 AM
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"Sierraman" wrote in message

BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road

race,
after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.


Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one camera at the finish of
the biggest bike race in Canada in 27 years?


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Old May 22nd 04, 01:37 AM
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"Sierraman" wrote in message

BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road

race,
after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.


Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one camera at the finish of
the biggest bike race in Canada in 27 years?


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Old May 22nd 04, 03:59 AM
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
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"Sierraman" wrote in message

BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage

is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road

race,
after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.


Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one camera at the finish

of
the biggest bike race in Canada in 27 years?


Well, It seems what I got was from edited edition as interviews with Jeanson
and Bessette were mixed in. If edited then maybe there was better footage
that wasn't included in the final cut. Regardless what happened was
unfortunate. Actually what happened was the cameraman had the camera on the
spanish winner, and I guess he wasn't really on top of the action because he
turned the camera back too late to really catch the sprint for the other
places. They never did replay a nice follow through on the sprint for the
other finishers. If that was original edited version, it sucked compared to
the womens finish. In the womens coverage of the road race the CBC dropped
the ball and missed airing the first few laps of the womens road race but
when it came to the finish it was extremely well done. They replayed it over
and over, at different angles with photo finish and more. You couldn't of
asked for more, but when it came to the mens road race they dropped the ball
right at the end. Another point is if they used cameramen that have covered
other Pro cycling races or were the cameramen new to covering cycling races
but in view of what happened in the womens race, maybe the mens race was
botched in the editing room. I blame the cameraman based on what I saw him
do with the camera. It was a blunder, but like you say if there were other
angles of the footage, it's too bad it didn't make the final cut for airtime
or reruns.

The final of the Womens race was one of most exciting race finishes I have
ever seen. Longo broke away early and stayed out and extended her lead.
Finally Cooke panicked and took up the chase. When Cooke tired she became
angry when others wouldn't take up the chase. Things were chaotic because
all the girls would't work together in the chase. This added to Longos lead.
Finally Melchers took up the chase, and twice she lead the charge up the
climbs cutting lead down. Again Cooke took the lead and then finally again
Melchers. The five girls in the break were going balls to the walls,
Melchers, Lungskog, Cooke, Olga, Rasa I think. They caught Longo at the
final corner. Longo gave it all she has, she was flying but it wasn't enough
as the Top girls were too strong. Coming out of the Corner Melchers started
the sprint early and only Lungskog could catch her. Cooke was unable to
catch up. At the last moment Lunkskog lunged over towards Melchers and
caught her wheel briefly before powering forward at the last instance to
beat Melchers. Like last year I understand Melchers filed a protest as it
seems Lungskog and Melchers always seems to be joined at the hip at the
finish.

Anyway, here's the clip! This is cool finish!

10 megs

http://216.219.161.193/temp/Worlds-2003-End-Sprint.mpg



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Old May 22nd 04, 03:59 AM
Sierraman
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
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"Sierraman" wrote in message

BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage

is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road

race,
after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.


Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one camera at the finish

of
the biggest bike race in Canada in 27 years?


Well, It seems what I got was from edited edition as interviews with Jeanson
and Bessette were mixed in. If edited then maybe there was better footage
that wasn't included in the final cut. Regardless what happened was
unfortunate. Actually what happened was the cameraman had the camera on the
spanish winner, and I guess he wasn't really on top of the action because he
turned the camera back too late to really catch the sprint for the other
places. They never did replay a nice follow through on the sprint for the
other finishers. If that was original edited version, it sucked compared to
the womens finish. In the womens coverage of the road race the CBC dropped
the ball and missed airing the first few laps of the womens road race but
when it came to the finish it was extremely well done. They replayed it over
and over, at different angles with photo finish and more. You couldn't of
asked for more, but when it came to the mens road race they dropped the ball
right at the end. Another point is if they used cameramen that have covered
other Pro cycling races or were the cameramen new to covering cycling races
but in view of what happened in the womens race, maybe the mens race was
botched in the editing room. I blame the cameraman based on what I saw him
do with the camera. It was a blunder, but like you say if there were other
angles of the footage, it's too bad it didn't make the final cut for airtime
or reruns.

The final of the Womens race was one of most exciting race finishes I have
ever seen. Longo broke away early and stayed out and extended her lead.
Finally Cooke panicked and took up the chase. When Cooke tired she became
angry when others wouldn't take up the chase. Things were chaotic because
all the girls would't work together in the chase. This added to Longos lead.
Finally Melchers took up the chase, and twice she lead the charge up the
climbs cutting lead down. Again Cooke took the lead and then finally again
Melchers. The five girls in the break were going balls to the walls,
Melchers, Lungskog, Cooke, Olga, Rasa I think. They caught Longo at the
final corner. Longo gave it all she has, she was flying but it wasn't enough
as the Top girls were too strong. Coming out of the Corner Melchers started
the sprint early and only Lungskog could catch her. Cooke was unable to
catch up. At the last moment Lunkskog lunged over towards Melchers and
caught her wheel briefly before powering forward at the last instance to
beat Melchers. Like last year I understand Melchers filed a protest as it
seems Lungskog and Melchers always seems to be joined at the hip at the
finish.

Anyway, here's the clip! This is cool finish!

10 megs

http://216.219.161.193/temp/Worlds-2003-End-Sprint.mpg



 




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