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McIlvain's Taped Conversation With Lemond
Pp 156-157 L.A. Officiel. Taped phone conversation between Stephanie McIlvain and Greg LeMond, recorded September 21, 2004. Stephanie McIlvain is the Oakley sunglasses representative responsible for handling Lance Armstrong, and an alleged witness to Lance Armstrong's alleged confession of the use of E.P.O., HGH, steroids, testosterone, etc. to unidentified doctors on October 28, 1996. "I Heard Him." Greg LeMond: "Fine, me, I.I know that I heard from a source on the fringes of the group (those inside the room where Armstrong allegedly listed the substances he had used on October 28, 1996 while undergoing chemotherapy at the University of Indiana Hospital,) about what happened at the hospital. And Betsy (Andreu) and I, we spoke a little, but I..I don't want to ask of you anything that you aren't ready to do, you know, but if there is a trial, would you be ready to testify?" Stehpanie McIlvain: "If I am called to testify, I will." Greg LeMond: "OK" Stephanie McIlvain: "Because I don't want to lie. You know, I was in that room, I heard him." Later in the same conversation with Stephanie McIlvain, Greg LeMond related how he had been forced to make a statement of support for Armstrong in 2001, (after his comments critical of L.A. in the wake of the Ferrari relationship revelation,) to which she had the following reaction: S.M.: "That's really ridiculous. To think that some could have that much power over people makes me scared." G.LM.: "And me, you know, I kept that to myself for three years, right to the release of the book (L.A. Confidential.) All of a sudden, John Burke and Trek called me and said, 'you had better keep quiet.' So I told them, 'go screw yourselves, if I feel like it, if they ask me.I won't go there on my own, and hash this out in public, but if they ask me about the book..' And that is what happened with Le Monde. That was..I think it was David Walsh who gave them my number, and I agreed to speak with them, and to tell them about the threats he made me, which are in the book. ( L.A. Confidential.) After having been forced to retract this statement (his criticism of L.A. for working with Michele Ferrari,) Greg LeMond was discouraged and totally deflated. But that didn't last. Soon, the discouragement gave way to defiance, and above all a determination to not let him be intimidated in the future. He explained to Stephanie McIlvain: "As far as I am concerned, starting last year, I confronted John Burke and stated clearly: "I won't let you tell me what to do any more. I don't care if that destroys our relationship, and if my bike business is ruined." That's what I did this summer. And you know, I am ready for a fight. At any rate it is hard on the nerves. But you know, I'm not that worried about.my bicycle company, it will survive, one way or the other. What scares me is to think that you've got Lance, Trek and Thom Weisel who all want one thing, which is to **** you." Later in the recorded conversation, Greg LeMond tried to imagined what would happen if Armstrong fell into disgrace. "Any way, if this ever really exploded, from one day to the next he lost face in public, if he stopped getting the adulation that he needs at all costs, that would be a really difficult time for him." "It Kills Me." In the course of this recording, Greg LeMond mentions again the possibility that he would need Stephanie McIlvain in the future to validated the story of what happened at the hospital. "If I am asked to testify, " she says, "I don't have a problem because I already told Jim, I told him I wouldn't lie." The 'Jim," to whom she refers is Jim Jannard, the founder and President of Oakley, the company she works for. Stephanie McIlvain picks up the conversation: "He told me, 'you know, there are ways we get around the problem,' and I replied, I don't care, Jim, I won't lie, I couldn't live with this on my conscience." You see, I also know some stuff, like Lance and I were very close, you know. But, OK, I am not going to lie about this, seeing that everybody knows about it. There are a lot of people in the loop, you know. And what makes me furious in this business, is the number of people to whom he gave false hopes. And I really think that is the most disgusting thing one can do.when you are a handicapped kid, and you admire someone who has been through the same ordeal to find hope and courage.and for him, to do that to these poor people who admire him, and who believe in all honesty, that if he does that, it's because he is superman, well that." Greg Le Mond: " I agree, I was." Stephanie McIlvain: ".That kills me." |
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:56:14 GMT, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
After having been forced to retract this statement (his criticism of L.A. for working with Michele Ferrari,) Greg LeMond was discouraged and totally deflated. Poor Greg. You know of course that this guy is a multi-millionaire and owns a lot of acreage up at Yellowstone. He needs to STFU. That excerpt sounded like someone thought they heard something and they're trying to put two and two together and figure out if they've got enough innuendo to skewer Armstrong. It does not sound like either heard clear and definitive incriminating statements from anyone let alone Armstrong. In fact it sounds like one of them is pretending to have heard something to see if they can draw out something damaging from the other one. What is that called? How about, 'fishing expedition'. ;-p |
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"nobody" wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:56:14 GMT, "B. Lafferty" wrote: After having been forced to retract this statement (his criticism of L.A. for working with Michele Ferrari,) Greg LeMond was discouraged and totally deflated. Poor Greg. You know of course that this guy is a multi-millionaire and owns a lot of acreage up at Yellowstone. He needs to STFU. That excerpt sounded like someone thought they heard something and they're trying to put two and two together and figure out if they've got enough innuendo to skewer Armstrong. It does not sound like either heard clear and definitive incriminating statements from anyone let alone Armstrong. In fact it sounds like one of them is pretending to have heard something to see if they can draw out something damaging from the other one. What is that called? How about, 'fishing expedition'. ;-p While part of me wants to support LeMond in his anti-doping quest, his comments often make me wonder .... and now GLM seems to know the facts about Floyd from Floyd. What I do not understand is why FL would confess to GLM knowing the very public row, over doping, between LA and GLM. This FL to GLM "confession" was alluded in: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...v06/nov21news2 A snip below: LeMond speaks at WADA meeting By Hedwig Kröner The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) invited triple Tour de France winner Greg LeMond to speak at its Executive Committee and Foundation Board meeting on Monday, November 20. .... So what did he think about Floyd Landis? "He called me for advice," LeMond replied. "I told him not to act as Tyler Hamilton did: deny, deny, deny. He's a good guy. I will keep to myself and respect what he told me, ... |
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Steve wrote:
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:56:14 GMT, "B. Lafferty" wrote: After having been forced to retract this statement (his criticism of L.A. for working with Michele Ferrari,) Greg LeMond was discouraged and totally deflated. Poor Greg. You know of course that this guy is a multi-millionaire and owns a lot of acreage up at Yellowstone. He needs to STFU. That excerpt sounded like someone thought they heard something and they're trying to put two and two together and figure out if they've got enough innuendo to skewer Armstrong. It does not sound like either heard clear and definitive incriminating statements from anyone let alone Armstrong. In fact it sounds like one of them is pretending to have heard something to see if they can draw out something damaging from the other one. What is that called? How about, 'fishing expedition'. ;-p While part of me wants to support LeMond in his anti-doping quest, his comments often make me wonder ... and now GLM seems to know the facts about Floyd from Floyd. What I do not understand is why FL would confess to GLM knowing the very public row, over doping, between LA and GLM. This FL to GLM "confession" was alluded in: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...v06/nov21news2 A snip below: LeMond speaks at WADA meeting By Hedwig Kröner The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) invited triple Tour de France winner Greg LeMond to speak at its Executive Committee and Foundation Board meeting on Monday, November 20. ... So what did he think about Floyd Landis? "He called me for advice," LeMond replied. "I told him not to act as Tyler Hamilton did: deny, deny, deny. He's a good guy. I will keep to myself and respect what he told me, ... It is extremely unlikely Landis "confessed" to LeMond. I read just the opposite. That would be extremely hypocritical of LeMond to keep such a secret and then try to expose others for doing the same and telling WADA that athletes who come forward to expose cheaters should receive more lenient sanctions. Plus, given LeMond's history with Armstrong, Landis knows confessing to LeMond is tantamount to confessing to Le Monde. Magilla |
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B. Lafferty wrote:
Pp 156-157 L.A. Officiel. Taped phone conversation between Stephanie McIlvain and Greg LeMond, recorded September 21, 2004. Why would you copy so much and post it online? It's not public domain and you have no right to do so. You could give your opinion, a synopsis, and convey the same information. Show some integrity. R |
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see if they can draw out something damaging from the other one. What is that called? How about, 'fishing expedition'. ;-p While part of me wants to support LeMond in his anti-doping quest, his comments often make me wonder ... and now GLM seems to know the facts about Floyd from Floyd. What I do not understand is why FL would confess to GLM knowing the very public row, over doping, between LA and GLM. This FL to GLM "confession" was alluded in: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...v06/nov21news2 A snip below: LeMond speaks at WADA meeting By Hedwig Kröner The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) invited triple Tour de France winner Greg LeMond to speak at its Executive Committee and Foundation Board meeting on Monday, November 20. ... So what did he think about Floyd Landis? "He called me for advice," LeMond replied. "I told him not to act as Tyler Hamilton did: deny, deny, deny. He's a good guy. I will keep to myself and respect what he told me, ... It is extremely unlikely Landis "confessed" to LeMond. I read just the opposite. That would be extremely hypocritical of LeMond to keep such a secret and then try to expose others for doing the same and telling WADA that athletes who come forward to expose cheaters should receive more lenient sanctions. Plus, given LeMond's history with Armstrong, Landis knows confessing to LeMond is tantamount to confessing to Le Monde. Magilla True, but don't you think that LeMond seemed to imply that he knew more ? |
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nobody wrote: In fact it sounds like one of them is pretending to have heard something to see if they can draw out something damaging from the other one. What is that called? How about, 'fishing expedition'. ;-p We've been over and over... hello, Brian! Where is the doctor who supposedly asked this sensitive question in front of an audience? Why hasn't he been found, pray tell? Where is the statement from the man or woman who asked the question? Why don't any of the named witnesses remember who (supposedly) asked the question? Employees in hospitals wear name tags. --D-y |
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Steve wrote:
see if they can draw out something damaging from the other one. What is that called? How about, 'fishing expedition'. ;-p While part of me wants to support LeMond in his anti-doping quest, his comments often make me wonder ... and now GLM seems to know the facts about Floyd from Floyd. What I do not understand is why FL would confess to GLM knowing the very public row, over doping, between LA and GLM. This FL to GLM "confession" was alluded in: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...v06/nov21news2 A snip below: LeMond speaks at WADA meeting By Hedwig Kröner The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) invited triple Tour de France winner Greg LeMond to speak at its Executive Committee and Foundation Board meeting on Monday, November 20. ... So what did he think about Floyd Landis? "He called me for advice," LeMond replied. "I told him not to act as Tyler Hamilton did: deny, deny, deny. He's a good guy. I will keep to myself and respect what he told me, ... It is extremely unlikely Landis "confessed" to LeMond. I read just the opposite. That would be extremely hypocritical of LeMond to keep such a secret and then try to expose others for doing the same and telling WADA that athletes who come forward to expose cheaters should receive more lenient sanctions. Plus, given LeMond's history with Armstrong, Landis knows confessing to LeMond is tantamount to confessing to Le Monde. Magilla True, but don't you think that LeMond seemed to imply that he knew more ? Yeah, LeMond definitely did that. His quote was definitely milkin' it for all it's PR value. Magilla |
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RicodJour wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote: Pp 156-157 L.A. Officiel. Taped phone conversation between Stephanie McIlvain and Greg LeMond, recorded September 21, 2004. Why would you copy so much and post it online? It's not public domain and you have no right to do so. You could give your opinion, a synopsis, and convey the same information. Show some integrity. Integrity, **** that. Brian, face it, we're not going to read it if it's not in French. Lance who? Ben L.A. Inconnu |
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