Calling all Belgians

On Apr 18, 8:13 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Berger was destroying the proof that the Clinton administration knew what a
danger Osama Bin Laden was and that they turned down an attempt to hand him
over to us.

Bull****. Berger was destroying the proof that the Clinton
administration was allied with Osama bin Laden and that the
1998 so-called cruise missile attack on OBL's camps was
actually an airdrop to deliver food, fuel, an aerial photo of
Washington DC with a big red X on the Pentagon, and a
Nintendo 64 loaded with Fight Simulator and Super Mario Bros.

(Mario doesn't have anything to do with Al Qaeda attacks.
Sandy Berger just happened to know that it's OBL's favorite
video game.)

I trust this clears the matter up.

Ben

"William Asher" wrote in message
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I think Clinton killed anyone who could testify against him. All the
people in the WTC on Sept. 11? They were there to testify against
Clinton. Why do you think Hillary is now the senator from New York?

Then you CAN explain why no one has ever seen the autoptsy reports on Ron
Brown?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/6092.shtml

"The scandal involved a scheme by Clinton administration officials to sell
seats on taxpayer-funded trade missions in exchange for campaign
contributions to the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign."

"In fact, Ms. Nolanda Hill, a business partner and confidante of
then-Clinton Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, testified at a dramatic court
hearing during the litigation that the Clinton White House "instructed"
Brown "to delay the [Judicial Watch] case by withholding the production of
documents prior to the 1996 elections, and to devise a way not to comply
with the court's orders.""

"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"Bill C" wrote in message
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On Apr 17, 12:37 am, Bret wrote:


More details hehttp://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=588156

This is just one of several cracks in the wall.

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I'm not sure that's a crack, or anything else for that matter. I've
heard non-stop whining about Republican Vote fraud, stolen elections,
etc...from the Democrats and major bitching about Republicans not
doing enough to investigate these incidents. This **** has come from
Howard Dean head of the DNC so why is it any different for Republicans
to bitch about, what they saw as, a whitewash by a Clinton appointed
atty into voter fraud.
Can't have it both ways, but everyone seems to want to.

Well, we agree on that. Somehow these people are trying to imply that if
Rove pushed to prosecute voter fraud that somehow he would be responsible
if
a prosecuting attorney was overly zealous or even crooked.

And I still have heard one single criticism of Bill Clinton personally
firing 92 Federal prosecutors while 2 of them were actively investigating
Clinton's Arkansas administrations corruption leading STRAIGHT to the
Governor's office.

Did we not already point out to you that every president gets rid of all
the
USAs at or near the beginning of his term? Why yes, we did. Beyond that,
after all
the time Starr and co. spent looking into the alleged corruption and
Whitewater,
what was the end result? Were any charges brought?

That you did but you see, idiot that you are you didn't know that in fact
that isn't true. Most US Attorneys move on relatively rapidly after they've
gotten Federal experience but usually those who wish to stay are carried
over.

"Fred Fredburger" wrote in message
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Tom Kunich wrote:
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Donald Munro wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote:
So now the Federal Government is in charge of New Orleans? Exactly
when did that happen again? Or is it just your position that whenever
anything goes wrong Big Brother should fix it?
Fred Fredburger wrote:
Actually, that seems to have been George Bush's idea:
It probably died of loneliness.
Maybe he just said it and never meant it. He certainly KNOWS that he has
supporters like Tom who wont hold him accountable for anything.

You mean like you didn't have anything to say about Bill Clinton giving a
speech on saving the children from fast food the other day? You know -
the same guy who had burgers and fries delivered to the oval office?

There you go again. Every time Bush ****s up, you talk about Clinton.

News flash: Clinton isn't the President.

Meanwhile, Bush said the Feds are responsible for the cleanup in N.O.
Which makes him, in your words, Big Brother.

Here's a hint - politicians are politicians. While you seem to think that
blaming everything on Bush is the thing to do it still doesn't seem to
answer why you weren't just as vocal about Clinton. Could it be because
you're a hypocrit?

"Bret" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 9:13 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Berger was destroying the proof that the Clinton administration knew what
a
danger Osama Bin Laden was and that they turned down an attempt to hand
him
over to us.

Yet another "Clinton did it first" argument.

Why don't you get a clue Bret - Bush and his administration aren't evil
incarnate - they're backed into a corner and trying to please everyone -
THAT'S why they're so screwed up. If you don't have any morals or ethics of
your own, mixing everyone else's together to seem like your own ain't going
to impress anyone.

Remember: Napoleon Bonaparte: "Never ascribe to malice that which is
adequately explained by incompetence." Or perhaps you'd rather Sir Bernard
Ingham, ""Many journalists have fallen for the conspiracy theory of
government. I do assure you that they would produce more accurate work if
they adhered to the cock-up theory.

Most Presidential administrations were that way from Washington's time to
the present. Clinton was another thing altogether. It was crooked from top
to bottom - planned that way from the first day onwards.

"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in
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"William Asher" wrote in message
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I think Clinton killed anyone who could testify against him. All the
people in the WTC on Sept. 11? They were there to testify against
Clinton. Why do you think Hillary is now the senator from New York?

Then you CAN explain why no one has ever seen the autoptsy reports on
Ron Brown?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/6092.shtml

"The scandal involved a scheme by Clinton administration officials to
sell seats on taxpayer-funded trade missions in exchange for campaign
contributions to the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign."

"In fact, Ms. Nolanda Hill, a business partner and confidante of
then-Clinton Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, testified at a dramatic
court hearing during the litigation that the Clinton White House
"instructed" Brown "to delay the [Judicial Watch] case by withholding
the production of documents prior to the 1996 elections, and to devise
a way not to comply with the court's orders.""

I honestly can't tell if you are joking or not. If you are joking it is
so totally out of character it must be someone impersonating you. If you
aren't joking, that means you can't tell when I am joking, which means
all of my best jokes (which admittedly aren't very funny) are whistling
buy you the way as reality.

Anyway, don't be a sore winner, they impeached Clinton. The fact he
wasn't convicted will forever be a stain on the character of the nation.
Sort of like bedsheets after a few years except you don't get to look at
the character of the nation and say to yourself "now *that* one was a
hell of a night."

--
Bill Asher

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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

"Howard Kveck" wrote in message
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In article et,
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

And I still have heard one single criticism of Bill Clinton personally
firing 92 Federal prosecutors while 2 of them were actively investigating
Clinton's Arkansas administrations corruption leading STRAIGHT to the
Governor's office.

Did we not already point out to you that every president gets rid of all
the USAs at or near the beginning of his term? Why yes, we did. Beyond that,
after all the time Starr and co. spent looking into the alleged corruption and
Whitewater, what was the end result? Were any charges brought?

That you did but you see, idiot that you are you didn't know that in fact
that isn't true. Most US Attorneys move on relatively rapidly after they've
gotten Federal experience but usually those who wish to stay are carried
over.

Well, you're wrong again. They tend to stay for the full four year term and they
do tend to resign or be asked to resign when a new admin. takes over. Check the
records. Yeah, I know that last suggestion will fall on deaf ears, as you think
that you already know and the idea that finding something isn't as you want it to
be to support your "Bush right, Clinton wrong" mindset just doesn't work for you.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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On Apr 18, 8:13 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Berger was destroying the proof that the Clinton administration knew
what a danger Osama Bin Laden was and that they turned down an
attempt to hand him over to us.

Bull****. Berger was destroying the proof that the Clinton
administration was allied with Osama bin Laden and that the
1998 so-called cruise missile attack on OBL's camps was
actually an airdrop to deliver food, fuel, an aerial photo of
Washington DC with a big red X on the Pentagon, and a
Nintendo 64 loaded with Fight Simulator and Super Mario Bros.

(Mario doesn't have anything to do with Al Qaeda attacks.
Sandy Berger just happened to know that it's OBL's favorite
video game.)

I trust this clears the matter up.

Ben


Ok, but why did this happen *before* anyone knew George Bush would become
president and need an excuse for ignoring the warnings about the Sept. 11
attacks?

--
Bill Asher

wrote:
Bull****. Berger was destroying the proof that the Clinton
administration was allied with Osama bin Laden and that the
1998 so-called cruise missile attack on OBL's camps was
actually an airdrop to deliver food, fuel, an aerial photo of
Washington DC with a big red X on the Pentagon, and a
Nintendo 64 loaded with Fight Simulator and Super Mario Bros.

(Mario doesn't have anything to do with Al Qaeda attacks.
Sandy Berger just happened to know that it's OBL's favorite
video game.)

Wrong. It was Mario and Space Invaders who attacked the WTC.

On Apr 18, 11:13 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Bill C" wrote in message

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Stealing documents to hide them. What were Ollie North and Fawn Hall
doing? Destroying documents.
What's your point?

That you are willing to either be completely stupid or to lie about it
because it is pertinent to your false claims:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Berger

" He later, in a guilty plea, admitted to deliberately removing the copies
and cutting three up with scissors. Two of the copies were recovered by DOJ
investigators and returned to the archives."

These are eyes only briefings and each person who gets on gets it only when
they are having the briefing and then hands it back in at the end of the
meeting. Usually they have made specific hand written notes on these
documents.

Berger was destroying the proof that the Clinton administration knew what a
danger Osama Bin Laden was and that they turned down an attempt to hand him
over to us.

I wasn't aware he had destroyed any, but hide, destroy, remove so they
can't be seen or used, all amount to the same thing Tom. Fawn and
Ollie happily shredded evidence linking Ronnie to Iran-Contra. Still
pretty paralell in my mind, and I like Reagan a lot.
Bill C